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MuggsyB


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tower912

In the conversation.  All anyone can ask.

RIP.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Very sad.  Way before my time but Mays or Aaron?

The Sultan

"Hey this guy died. Let's use the occasion to debate if he was better than his peers."
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:14:13 PM
"Hey this guy died. Let's use the occasion to debate if he was better than his peers."

Spare us Fluffy. 

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:16:48 PM
Irony.

Respecting Mr. Mays can be about discussing his greatness.  Instead, you decided to make an asinine comment for no reason known to man. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:21:18 PM
Respecting Mr. Mays can be about discussing his greatness.  Instead, you decided to make an asinine comment for no reason known to man. 

More irony.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:21:58 PM
More irony.

Its Muggs involving a human being

You def can't be surprised.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 18, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
Its Muggs involving a human being

You def can't be surprised.

I'm not the problem at all.  I was simply asking a question and hoping those who saw him could shed some light on his greatness. 

The Sultan

He was great.
Aaron was great too.

Hope this helps.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

dgies9156

Saw them both in person. They epitomized what baseball is about.

Both Henry Aaron and Willie Mays were ultra-skilled baseball players whose love of the game made their talents look almost effortless.

Mr. Mays suffered from playing in the Arctic Circle of baseball parks -- Candlestick Park in San Francisco -- and his home run total suffered compared to Mr. Aaron's. But they were both incredible and outstanding representatives for the game. Both will be missed terribly.

RIP Willie. You made this fan very happy watching you.


MuggsyB

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 18, 2024, 08:36:18 PM
Saw them both in person. They epitomized what baseball is about.

Both Henry Aaron and Willie Mays were ultra-skilled baseball players whose love of the game made their talents look almost effortless.

Mr. Mays suffered from playing in the Arctic Circle of baseball parks -- Candlestick Park in San Francisco -- and his home run total suffered compared to Mr. Aaron's. But they were both incredible and outstanding representatives for the game. Both will be missed terribly.

RIP Willie. You made this fan very happy watching you.

Ty brother dgies. 

muwarrior69

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 18, 2024, 08:36:18 PM
Saw them both in person. They epitomized what baseball is about.

Both Henry Aaron and Willie Mays were ultra-skilled baseball players whose love of the game made their talents look almost effortless.

Mr. Mays suffered from playing in the Arctic Circle of baseball parks -- Candlestick Park in San Francisco -- and his home run total suffered compared to Mr. Aaron's. But they were both incredible and outstanding representatives for the game. Both will be missed terribly.

RIP Willie. You made this fan very happy watching you.

Yes, he was a great hitter, but I'll always remember as a 7-year-old watching that catch in the '54 World Series on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrsg_-dV7Q

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:10:01 PM
Top 5 ever?
Willie Mays was arguably The Greatest Player in Baseball History. Was a joy to watch , saw him live in his late prime when he was still producing .

His 1965 season was one the best individual performances , 52 Home runs was an incredible year  with Home games at Candlestick.

His fielding was the absolute Gold Standard and an incredible arm.

Of course he hung on 4 years too long and is an oft cited example of why players should not stay beyond their expire date.

First Jerry West and now Willie Mays . Losing Icons like they were is tough
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

I'm a little too young to remember him in his prime, but Mays was my dad's all-time fave.

What I do remember was a guy who always represented baseball with joy and dignity. He LOVED the game, and it showed every time he talked about it.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

#17
Quote from: MU82 on June 18, 2024, 09:41:50 PM
I'm a little too young to remember him in his prime, but Mays was my dad's all-time fave.

What I do remember was a guy who always represented baseball with joy and dignity. He LOVED the game, and it showed every time he talked about it.

He and Aaron were normal sized guys. But somehow, they thwacked close to 1400 HR's between them. 

Mutaman

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:14:13 PM
"Hey this guy died. Let's use the occasion to debate if he was better than his peers."

Seems like a reasonable thing to do.

Mutaman

Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 18, 2024, 08:45:42 PM
Yes, he was a great hitter, but I'll always remember as a 7-year-old watching that catch in the '54 World Series on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrsg_-dV7Q

Why weren't you in school? I was 7 and came home from school after that game and all I heard about was some guy named Dusty Rhodes. 

Also we were to poor to own a tv in 1954.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Mutaman on June 18, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Why weren't you in school? I was 7 and came home from school after that game and all I heard about was some guy named Dusty Rhodes. 

Also we were to poor to own a tv in 1954.

Exactly. I had just turned 6 and was in first grade. No TV, no transistor radios even. Even when the White Sox made the series in '59 we had to run ,home to watch the last couple of innings of the weekday games. Nuns were every bit as mean as Nurse Ratched.

Tyler COLEk

Any baseball fan should spend some time on Mays' baseball reference: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mayswi01.shtml

10 straight gold gloves in CF. Never had double digit errors in the outfield in a season. OPS+ of 145 in his age 41 season.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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