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PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

Kyle's wins bronze with COVID.   I am not sure whether to be impressed or appalled.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on August 08, 2024, 03:34:21 PM
Kyle's wins bronze with COVID.   I am not sure whether to be impressed or appalled.

Same. I mean he was wearing a mask till the race. After maybe don't go around hugging.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

PGsHeroes32

Muggs can breathe easy

The boys went medieval
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

#929
The big dogs delivered.

Embiid hangs with the big dogs down the stretch and delivers.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jesmu84

Anyone else get nervous thinking about USA bball 4 years from now?

Steph, LeBron and KD ain't gonna be there anymore

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: jesmu84 on August 08, 2024, 03:53:16 PM
Anyone else get nervous thinking about USA bball 4 years from now?

Steph, LeBron and KD ain't gonna be there anymore

No.

Lot of players will be 4 years older too.

Edwards at 26 will be nuts.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: tower912 on August 08, 2024, 03:34:21 PM
Kyle's wins bronze with COVID.   I am not sure whether to be impressed or appalled.

He said he was disappointed in Tokyo with the bronze but he's ecstatic with the bronze in Paris.  He couldn't have asked for a much better result knowing how he's feeling and there was no way he was missing this race.

JWags85

Quote from: jesmu84 on August 08, 2024, 03:53:16 PM
Anyone else get nervous thinking about USA bball 4 years from now?

Steph, LeBron and KD ain't gonna be there anymore

Not in the slightest.  As PG said, you have Edwards.  Assuming he can stay healthy, Embiid will be too.  Then you have Banchero, Holmgren, and someone like Brandon Miller.  Halliburton is only 24.  Maxey is super young with a high ceiling.  I'm not the biggest fan of them, but Tatum and Brown will both be 30 and in their primes.

You can lose the 3 you mentioned still have the most stacked roster in the world even if the top 5 players in the world (Wemby, Luka, Jokic, Giannis, etc...) aren't American.

tower912

Quote from: jesmu84 on August 08, 2024, 03:53:16 PM
Anyone else get nervous thinking about USA bball 4 years from now?

Steph, LeBron and KD ain't gonna be there anymore
They will have TKo and Oso. 


Seriously, France should be a beast.   Serbia should be back.   The world is catching up.    So, worried?   Never.   Cognizant that it should be extremely competitive and the USA might get beat?  Yup.   And?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on August 08, 2024, 04:06:14 PM
Not in the slightest.  As PG said, you have Edwards.  Assuming he can stay healthy, Embiid will be too.  Then you have Banchero, Holmgren, and someone like Brandon Miller.  Halliburton is only 24.  Maxey is super young with a high ceiling.  I'm not the biggest fan of them, but Tatum and Brown will both be 30 and in their primes.

Look, I'm not going to get "nervous" over anything that's four years off, but those guys are serious steps down from Lebron, Steph and KD. Mostly because none of them have really showed much on the international stage.  Today they relied largely on two guys in their mid to late 30s.

There is way too much "we can just roll out the ball" type thinking here. There was a lot of it before the games even started ("we should win every game 20+").  The international competition has gotten MUCH better.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on August 08, 2024, 03:58:08 PM
No.

Lot of players will be 4 years older too.

Edwards at 26 will be nuts.

Whew. I'm glad they responded to my concern
:)

wadesworld

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 08, 2024, 04:12:36 PM
Look, I'm not going to get "nervous" over anything that's four years off, but those guys are serious steps down from Lebron, Steph and KD. Mostly because none of them have really showed much on the international stage.  Today they relied largely on two guys in their mid to late 30s.

There is way too much "we can just roll out the ball" type thinking here. There was a lot of it before the games even started ("we should win every game 20+").  The international competition has gotten MUCH better.

I'll believe the USA is in trouble when they send their A teams when they actually lose a meaningful tournament with their A team.

MU82

That was fun, much more enjoyable to watch than a 24-point rout would have been. Played with a lot of heart, and the old men led.

Great sports theater.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on August 08, 2024, 04:36:07 PM
That was fun, much more enjoyable to watch than a 24-point rout would have been. Played with a lot of heart, and the old men led.

Great sports theater.

Doesn't sound fun.  I'll take a look at the replay but I'm not sure why we waited until the 4Q  to go medieval/drop the hammer.  The focus must be there from minute one. 

MuggsyB

I see Tatum didn't sniff the floor. 

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on August 08, 2024, 04:26:01 PM
I'll believe the USA is in trouble when they send their A teams when they actually lose a meaningful tournament with their A team.

I don't think they are necessarily in trouble, but replacing the guys who buy and large lead them today (save Embiid) with the guys Wags is mentioning doesn't sound like anything but downgrades to me.  I didn't get to watch it live, but watching the fourth quarter later was watching a couple old vets whose decades of experience put a team on their back and take them down the stretch.

Is a guy like Anthony Edwards going to be that guy in four years? I have my doubts.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 08, 2024, 07:29:38 PM
I don't think they are necessarily in trouble, but replacing the guys who buy and large lead them today (save Embiid) with the guys Wags is mentioning doesn't sound like anything but downgrades to me.  I didn't get to watch it live, but watching the fourth quarter later was watching a couple old vets whose decades of experience put a team on their back and take them down the stretch.

Is a guy like Anthony Edwards going to be that guy in four years? I have my doubts.

One game doesn't define 4 years from now. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 08, 2024, 07:32:13 PM
One game doesn't define 4 years from now. 

LOL, what?  I literally have no idea what that even means.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 08, 2024, 07:33:10 PM
LOL, what?  I literally have no idea what that even means.

You're overreacting to one game. 

Warriors4ever

I believe in finishing one Olympics before worrying about the next.....

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 08, 2024, 07:35:52 PM
You're overreacting to one game. 

Maybe. But I knew this wasn't a "win every game by 20+" team. Increasing parity.

That being said, I think we win the gold medal game rather comfortably. 10-15 points.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 08, 2024, 07:39:23 PM
Maybe. But I knew this wasn't a "win every game by 20+" team. Increasing parity.

That being said, I think we win the gold medal game rather comfortably. 10-15 points.

I'm watching right now.  Serbia hit a few shots our of their ass early, but we did not come out with the proper intensity.  And defensively we gamble to a fault. 

MuggsyB

I fully expect we will have to deal with France mugging us every possession and the refs calling diddly squat. Regardless, Team USA should win  by 20+ in a road environment. 

MuggsyB

Our defense was/is the fking problem.  Overpressuring to a fault, which leads to wide open shots, and not adjusting whatsoever.  Totally unnecessary.  Stop the fking ball, clean the glass, run, and attack relentlessly.   Serbia isn't a hs ymca team.  Our guys gamble way, way, too much.  Just play solid fundamental defense. 

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