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MuggsyB

Ledecky only won by 10 secs???  :)

MU82

Wow, Leon Marchand is incredible. Behind to the record-holder almost the entire 200M butterfly, Marchand has an amazing final turn and then just rockets past everybody to win.
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The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on July 31, 2024, 04:15:48 PM
Wow, Leon Marchand is incredible. Behind to the record-holder almost the entire 200M butterfly, Marchand has an amazing final turn and then just rockets past everybody to win.


There is an interesting factoid that the "slow pool" is causing those at the front to tire, because this stat is pretty incredble.

https://x.com/RykNeethling/status/1818684883612373424
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Pakuni on July 31, 2024, 03:58:39 PM
1. Ray Lewis didn't stab anyone. He's never been accused of stabbing anyone.
2. Wild that you would cast Rapinoe as the villain here. Someone mocked her suffering an injury, and she's the one who acted undignified? Yikes! Pray tell, what did she do that was undignified?

1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors. 

It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:30:19 PM
1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors.  I bet she feels an immense sense of accomplishment every time Albert steps on the pitch in and is booed by fellow Americans....all because Albert is different from her.

It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 03:47:17 PM
She definitely shouldn't have done that, but that is a harsh price to pay for a 20 year old who just liked a post.  Esepcially when people in other sports can literally stab someone to death and not only keep their football job instead of going to jail, but also be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.  Or have camera evidence that they beat the crap out of a woman on an elevator and get a second chance in a new city.  Rapinoe is a known bully and twice Albert's age.  She could have handled the controversy in a more dignified way.  It seems like Korbin is remorseful and has "learned her lesson" regarding how to behave on social media.

Playing in a private sports league is vastly different than supporting your country. The NFL's own disgusting standard for holding players accountable is different.

you're right she only liked the post but let's not forget she also reposted things that are objectionable to plenty of players she wished to be teammates with. Ask yourself if Jade Carey posted something anti Black or Asian people would she have made the US Olympic team? Color me skeptical.

Rapinoe being a known bully is sort of a non starter here. Jimmy Butler's a known bully, if Jamal Cain posted gleefully when Butler gets injured do you think he gets a call up to the team?

Also saying she's remorseful is kind of a joke, that statement she released looked like a copy and paste statement from an entry level hire at a PR firm.

Really the only thing I agree with is whether it's a steep price for a 20yr old. And in my opinion she should've been cut this year, not banned from all Olympics forever.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:30:19 PM
1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors. 

It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

That's because those beliefs are stupid.

wadesworld

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:30:19 PM
1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors. 

It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

LOLLLLLLL

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 31, 2024, 04:23:15 PM

There is an interesting factoid that the "slow pool" is causing those at the front to tire, because this stat is pretty incredble.

https://x.com/RykNeethling/status/1818684883612373424


Oh, I thought the 'slow pool' was just a group of posters here on scoop.

Galway Eagle

#559
Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:32:45 PM
1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors.  I bet she feels an immense sense of accomplishment every time Albert steps on the pitch in and is booed by fellow Americans....all because Albert is different from her.

It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

Holy crap.

This is what your argument amounts to, "you might be or who you innately are but if I make the decision to hate you then you're the jerk/bully if you call me out" the thing with the tolerance paradox is one is a choice one isn't.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 31, 2024, 04:33:28 PM
Playing in a private sports league is vastly different than supporting your country. The NFL's own disgusting standard for holding players accountable is different.

you're right she only liked the post but let's not forget she also reposted things that are objectionable to plenty of players she wished to be teammates with. Ask yourself if Jade Carey posted something anti Black or Asian people would she have made the US Olympic team? Color me skeptical.

Rapinoe being a known bully is sort of a non starter here. Jimmy Butler's a known bully, if Jamal Cain posted gleefully when Butler gets injured do you think he gets a call up to the team?

Also saying she's remorseful is kind of a joke, that statement she released looked like a copy and paste statement from an entry level hire at a PR firm.

Really the only thing I agree with is whether it's a steep price for a 20yr old. And in my opinion she should've been cut this year, not banned from all Olympics forever.

Those are mostly fair points.  Still not sure I would cut her over it if I were the coach.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 31, 2024, 04:45:06 PM
Holy crap.

This is what your argument amounts to, "you might be or who you innately are but if I make the decision to hate you then you're the jerk/bully if you call me out"

Nope.  That's not what I wrote.  Try again.

Pakuni

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:30:19 PM
1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.

Feels like goalpost shifting.
He was charged with murder because it was believed he was involved in the fight that led to the stabbings. He was never alleged to have stabbed anyone. The prosecution literally said this.
And ultimately, the evidence failed to show that he was even involved in the fight.
All of this is public record.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/opening-statements-begin-in-lewis-murder-trial-1.250041


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2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors. 

Character assault? Good Lord.
Rapinoe didn't need to assault Albert's character. Albert's character already was revealed.
This is what Rapinoe wrote:
"To the people who want to hide behind 'my beliefs' I would just ask one question, are you making any time of space safer, more inclusive, more whole, any semblance of better, bringing the best out of anyone?" Because if you aren't, all you believe in is hate. And Kids are literally killing themselves because of this hate. Wake TF up! Yours Truly, #15."

Quote
It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

You actually think it's incumbent upon the person who was wronged here to make the perpetrator a better person? And, if they choose otherwise, they're the bad guy and the perp is the victim?
Gross.


The Sultan

Ah there's the jutaw22 we all know. Wondering when that would emerge. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Galway Eagle

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:47:52 PM
Nope.  That's not what I wrote.  Try again.

It is

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:32:45 PM
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.

Rapinoe responded to Albert's anti LGBTQ+ reposting.

Summary: innately gay person calls out person choosing to hate people for being innately who they are.

Different wording of summary: you might be or who you innately are (gay person) but if I make the decision to hate you (pick and choose conservative/christian beliefs) then you're the jerk/bully if you call me out (rapinoe's response)

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:32:45 PM
It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins. 

This ignores that one is an unprovoked attack on one's innate self while the other is a choice to make an unprovoked attack.


Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:32:45 PMI bet she feels an immense sense of accomplishment every time Albert steps on the pitch in and is booed by fellow Americans....all because Albert is different from her.

Similar to someone who publicly liked the celebration of an injury because she was "different from her"


Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:32:45 PMIt's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that. 

I agree with the larger sentiment here but this again ignores which side is under attack. You're advocating for turn the other cheek, but ironically the person who you're saying should turn the other cheek is the same one being attacked by the people who believe in the guy who said it.

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:32:45 PMPeople on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

Again what your sexual urges are not a choice. Deciding which fundamentalist Christian or conservative beliefs you adhere to are. If you're making the choice to adhere to a hateful one against those that don't have a choice then you don't deserve "tolerance"

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 04:30:19 PM
1. He was charged for double murder.  The charges were dropped.  But he was definitely accused and charged.  There is still mystery surrounding the incident and still accusations that he was involved.
2. Rapinoe (38) launched a character assault on Albert (20) because Albert reposted some content on her social media (TikTok) that Megan did not agree with.  It's always "tolerate, accept, and include" unless your personal opinions fall outside what pop culture says they should be, there actually is no room to include, tolerate, or accept different opinoins.  Instead it's "villify and isolate," which is what Rapinoe did by making a public show over something that could have been addressed privately behind closed doors. 

It's better to have an open dialogue with someone and try to win them over with words and actions than to bully them, make them feel small...they're never going to be open to your way of thinking if you do that.  People on this board do this to anyone who expresses even a slightly conservative viewpoint and/or Catholic belief.

What Catholic belief did you express? Because what Albert retweeted wasn't consistent with any Catholic beliefs that I am aware of.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

We're 7th in Gold Medals??  WTF?  Rico is correct, totally unacceptable.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 31, 2024, 06:25:08 PM
What Catholic belief did you express? Because what Albert retweeted wasn't consistent with any Catholic beliefs that I am aware of.

I havent expressed any Catholic beliefs in this thread.  But I did see some anti-Catholic BS being tossed around by a few folks.

MU1in77

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 31, 2024, 07:13:47 PM
We're 7th in Gold Medals??  WTF?  Rico is correct, totally unacceptable.
As of tonight the US has won 1 more gold in swimming (3) than in fencing (2)!

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Pakuni on July 31, 2024, 04:56:58 PM


You actually think it's incumbent upon the person who was wronged here to make the perpetrator a better person? And, if they choose otherwise, they're the bad guy and the perp is the victim?
Gross.

Yes, because that is what I personally do.  I always make an effort to address things privately with a conversation rather than to escalate make a public show of it, esepcially when peoples careers are invovled.

Also, I shouldn't have to explain this to, especially to fellow Catholics, but it is possible to have Christian beliefs about homosexuality without hating gay people.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 07:51:20 PM
Yes, because that is what I personally do.  I always make an effort to address things privately with a conversation rather than to escalate and make a public show of it, esepcially when peoples careers are invovled.

Also, I shouldn't have to explain this, especially to fellow Catholics, but it is possible to have Christian beliefs about homosexuality without hating gay people.

The Sultan

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 07:51:20 PM
Yes, because that is what I personally do.  I always make an effort to address things privately with a conversation rather than to escalate make a public show of it, esepcially when peoples careers are invovled.

Also, I shouldn't have to explain this to, especially to fellow Catholics, but it is possible to have Christian beliefs about homosexuality without hating gay people.

What are "Christian beliefs about homosexuality?"
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jutaw22mu


The Sultan

Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 31, 2024, 08:11:51 PM
Look them up.

I mean, my Christian church allows same sex marriage and employs homosexual pastors. Ones that actually can screw around within the bounds of a consensual relationship.

However I don't think that's what you mean.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU1in77 on July 31, 2024, 07:48:11 PM
As of tonight the US has won 1 more gold in swimming (3) than in fencing (2)!

WTF '77??  Are we getting distracted by the Parisian cafés?

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