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tower912

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2024, 08:15:55 PM

Honest question Fahrenheit...back in your fire fightin' days, were you as anti law and order as you appear to be now? I find it extremely odd, based on anecdotal evidence, that you would be. What brought you to this point, hey?
Doc Scrivello, I am not sure what you mean?    From my perspective, you are the one who is anti-law and order, anti-democracy, etc.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2024, 08:15:55 PM

Honest question Fahrenheit...back in your fire fightin' days, were you as anti law and order as you appear to be now? I find it extremely odd, based on anecdotal evidence, that you would be. What brought you to this point, hey?
1 Corinthians 15:33

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on June 07, 2024, 08:35:33 PM
Doc Scrivello, I am not sure what you mean?    From my perspective, you are the one who is anti-law and order, anti-democracy, etc.
I would love to see an answer to this question but doubt it'll come.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: NCMUFan on June 07, 2024, 09:21:57 PM
1 Corinthians 15:33

"Bad Company ruins good morals"

So if true,  what does sharing a political party with neo-nazis, Westboro baptist church members, and KKK members do for morals?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Mutaman

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 07, 2024, 05:24:26 PM
even in the midst of repulsive leadership on both sides of the political spectrum.

So Muggsy.

Mutaman

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 07, 2024, 06:28:44 AM
  authentic French ww II rifle for sale, new condition, never been fired but dropped once

WW1

"The French army suffered around 6 million casualties, including 1.4 million dead and 4.2 million wounded, roughly 71% of those who fought. Out of the one million French infantrymen who died in the war, more than half died between the outbreak of war and November 1915."
Wiki

Jockey

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 07, 2024, 10:01:47 PM
"Bad Company ruins good morals"

So if true,  what does sharing a political party with neo-nazis, Westboro baptist church members, and KKK members do for morals?

The next 5 months will be fun...,

Tower and TAMU (2 guys who are among the most reasonable and levelheaded here on Scoop) are letting loose.









Uncle Rico

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 07, 2024, 10:01:47 PM
"Bad Company ruins good morals"

So if true,  what does sharing a political party with neo-nazis, Westboro baptist church members, and KKK members do for morals?

And Donald Trump
Guster is for Lovers

The Lens

Speaking of D Day, on Thursday night I attended the opening of a POW / MIA exhibit at the War Memorial in Milwaukee. It was very powerful.

I saw a number of friendly faces including many of my Trump supporter friends. 

I wondered how they reconciled celebrating a POW exhibit with Trump's:

"He's (John McCain) not a war hero...He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

Literally the entire event was people in tears celebrating POWs and half of them are going to vote Trump. 

I come from a very deep military family, it blows my mind that any veteran can vote for him.  It seems unconscionable.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Lens on June 08, 2024, 06:33:00 AM
Speaking of D Day, on Thursday night I attended the opening of a POW / MIA exhibit at the War Memorial in Milwaukee. It was very powerful.

I saw a number of friendly faces including many of my Trump supporter friends. 

I wondered how they reconciled celebrating a POW exhibit with Trump's:

"He's (John McCain) not a war hero...He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

Literally the entire event was people in tears celebrating POWs and half of them are going to vote Trump. 

I come from a very deep military family, it blows my mind that any veteran can vote for him.  It seems unconscionable.

"What's in it for them?"
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Suckers and losers.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

NCMUFan

Quote from: The Lens on June 08, 2024, 06:33:00 AM
Speaking of D Day, on Thursday night I attended the opening of a POW / MIA exhibit at the War Memorial in Milwaukee. It was very powerful.

I saw a number of friendly faces including many of my Trump supporter friends. 

I wondered how they reconciled celebrating a POW exhibit with Trump's:

"He's (John McCain) not a war hero...He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

Literally the entire event was people in tears celebrating POWs and half of them are going to vote Trump. 

I come from a very deep military family, it blows my mind that any veteran can vote for him.  It seems unconscionable.
John McCain was a great patriot.  And a politician.  Soooo, probably some history behind that statement, even though a dumb one.

Jockey

Quote from: NCMUFan on June 08, 2024, 09:12:16 AM
John McCain was a great patriot.  And a politician.  Soooo, probably some history behind that statement, even though a dumb one.

Probably some history behind the coup attempt, too.  :-\

NCMUFan

Probably some money to the big guy blah blah blah.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Lens on June 08, 2024, 06:33:00 AM
Speaking of D Day, on Thursday night I attended the opening of a POW / MIA exhibit at the War Memorial in Milwaukee. It was very powerful.

I saw a number of friendly faces including many of my Trump supporter friends. 

I wondered how they reconciled celebrating a POW exhibit with Trump's:

"He's (John McCain) not a war hero...He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

Literally the entire event was people in tears celebrating POWs and half of them are going to vote Trump. 

I come from a very deep military family, it blows my mind that any veteran can vote for him.  It seems unconscionable.

After witnessing our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, the woke transformation of our military and a confusing back and forth foreign policy re Israel, Iran and the entire region many of our military past and present could never vote for Biden either. I know I couldn't vote for either of them.

I'd be interested in the polling of vets and current members of the military. My guess would be that Trump is solidly ahead of Biden but it's only a guess.

Scoop Snoop

Ten years from now, the 90th commemoration of D-Day may involve a few survivors arriving all in one car with seat space for two or three more people. Among today's 98-year-old vets, there might be 2 or 3 who live to 108. It's rare for men to live that long. This year was very much of a final farewell in terms of 10-year anniversaries.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: JWags85 on June 07, 2024, 03:21:38 PM
Not taking shots at anyone specifically here, but I think many people are often misguided or mistaken about the foreign perceptions of Americans, especially among the older generations.  Through plenty of interactions and experiences in Europe and with Europeans in places like HK, Singapore, and elsewhere, the majority of negative American sentiment is from combative millenial types and pushback against loud arrogant American tourists.

Older Belgians/Dutch, who I spent weeks with annually, particularly are fond of America/Americans.  Obviously YMMV but I usually comeback from trips abroad feeling more positive about the US and our perception than you'd think from conversations domestically.

My experience is similar.  Most of my travels in Europe or Asia I have seen nothing but positive feelings towards Americans.

My daughter and I were very aggravated in Bayeux, Normandy.  We were eating dinner on a Monday night.  Most restaurants in France are closed on Mondays, so you have limited options to begin with.  The food was great and service was very good as was the Norman cidre and beer   This one late 60's couple did not touch their food and then was getting heated with the restaurant owner because they said "service was slow and had to be somewhere".  It embarrassed us as Americans especially in a place where they still embrace the D-Day landings and they were wrong about the service.  They could have asked to take it to go since they had a schedule and it was their fault for not planning accordingly.  I don't want to see incidents like this that can tarnish American reputation.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 08, 2024, 10:01:55 AM
After witnessing our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, the woke transformation of our military and a confusing back and forth foreign policy re Israel, Iran and the entire region many of our military past and present could never vote for Biden either. I know I couldn't vote for either of them.

I'd be interested in the polling of vets and current members of the military. My guess would be that Trump is solidly ahead of Biden but it's only a guess.

my sides, holy sh1t

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 08, 2024, 10:27:05 AM
My experience is similar.  Most of my travels in Europe or Asia I have seen nothing but positive feelings towards Americans.

My daughter and I were very aggravated in Bayeux, Normandy.  We were eating dinner on a Monday night.  Most restaurants in France are closed on Mondays, so you have limited options to begin with.  The food was great and service was very good as was the Norman cidre and beer   This one late 60's couple did not touch their food and then was getting heated with the restaurant owner because they said "service was slow and had to be somewhere".  It embarrassed us as Americans especially in a place where they still embrace the D-Day landings and they were wrong about the service.  They could have asked to take it to go since they had a schedule and it was their fault for not planning accordingly.  I don't want to see incidents like this that can tarnish American reputation.

Cultural difference.  Food is an event in much of Western Europe, as I'm sure you well know.  It is extremely embarrassing when Americans act like that, because it only reinforces a lot of the stereotypes people have about USA citizens.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 08, 2024, 10:01:55 AM
the woke transformation of our military

Jesus was woke.

Also, "woke" is so 2023. Y'all need to come up with a new word you don't know the meaning of to serve as a putdown for all the allegedly lib stuff y'all don't like.

Oh, and for the few still using "woke," it has become almost exclusively the domain of rabid supporters of the convicted felon, which you claim you're not.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 08, 2024, 10:01:55 AM
After witnessing our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, the woke transformation of our military and a confusing back and forth foreign policy re Israel, Iran and the entire region many of our military past and present could never vote for Biden either. I know I couldn't vote for either of them.

I'd be interested in the polling of vets and current members of the military. My guess would be that Trump is solidly ahead of Biden but it's only a guess.

Could you cite some specific examples of the "woke transformation" of the military?


tower912

Any time I get called 'woke', I give myself a mental high five.   It means I am not displaying racist or misogynistic tendencies.  Woohoo.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

#122
Quote from: NCMUFan on June 08, 2024, 09:24:16 AM
Probably some money to the big guy blah blah blah.

Indeed. The only difference is that one played out for hours on national TV for all to see with their own eyes and the other is the fever dream of Jamie Comer.

But I know the complete lack of evidence, the inconvenient issue that Comer's two star witnesses turned out to be criminal foreign agents, and the fact that he hasn't managed after three years to even pretend to be able to bring charges, will not deter you from thinking they are just the same.

Getting you and your ilk to believe that, NOT actually bringing charges, is the entire reason for their performance.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 08, 2024, 10:30:39 AM
my sides, holy sh1t

Chicos had me at "woke transformation of our military".
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 08, 2024, 10:44:37 AM
Indeed. The only difference is that one played out for hours on national TV for all to see with their own eyes and the other is the fever dream of Jamie Comer.

But I know the complete lack of evidence, the inconvenient issue that Comer's two star witnesses turned out to be criminal foreign agents, and the fact that he hasn't managed after three years to even pretend to be able to bring charges, will not deter you from thinking they are just the same.

"We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence." - future convicted felon Rudy Giuliani
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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