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brewcity77

Quote from: MUBurrow on June 07, 2024, 10:17:35 AM
Aww thats cute of them.

Initial reports were that the Lakers were going to come in with $100M for around 5-6 years, so somewhere around $15-20M per year. This morning, reporting has it at $100M for 8 years, so $12.5M per. That's a big difference. If Hurley was tripling or quadrupling his salary, it seems certain he would go, but if it's a (relatively speaking) 25% raise over what UConn has on the table, it's not nearly as game-changing.

No idea what he does, but I could see that UConn offer being enough to stay if the Lakers offer is indeed $100/8.

MUDPT

I understand the allure of the NBA, but the Lakers don't seem like a fit. LeBron can opt out this summer. If he signs on, there will be enormous pressure to draft Bronny, who Hurley is supposed to develop (per LeBron's wishes). They fired Luke Walton after a season, Frank Vogel 2 years after he won a title and Darvin Ham, a year after going to the WCF.

The West is really good. Two teams (Denver, Minnesota) have better talent than Dallas in the Finals. Phoenix, Golden State and the Clippers all have veteran superstars, who are at the same level. There's also OKC and San Antonio who have two developing superstars.

It's the Lakers, they can trade for someone like Trae Young, but that probably doesn't get you a title. I don't see them winning a title in the next 5 years with so many obstacles. Maybe there won't be any NBA jobs open that you can walk in a compete for a title immediately.

MU90620

I don't think possibility of being fired is the negative that some people think it is. No one wants to be fired, bit I think it's very far down the list of cons for taking an NBA job. Other than ego, there is literally no downside to being fired from an NBA head coaching job

79Warrior

Quote from: MU90620 on June 08, 2024, 09:42:59 AM
I don't think possibility of being fired is the negative that some people think it is. No one wants to be fired, bit I think it's very far down the list of cons for taking an NBA job. Other than ego, there is literally no downside to being fired from an NBA head coaching job

Agree.

wadesworld

Quote from: MU90620 on June 08, 2024, 09:42:59 AM
I don't think possibility of being fired is the negative that some people think it is. No one wants to be fired, bit I think it's very far down the list of cons for taking an NBA job. Other than ego, there is literally no downside to being fired from an NBA head coaching job

Right. If your seat might be warming up Kentucky fans might beg for you to be the first call like Billy Donovan. The horror.

MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 08, 2024, 06:16:54 AM
Initial reports were that the Lakers were going to come in with $100M for around 5-6 years, so somewhere around $15-20M per year. This morning, reporting has it at $100M for 8 years, so $12.5M per. That's a big difference. If Hurley was tripling or quadrupling his salary, it seems certain he would go, but if it's a (relatively speaking) 25% raise over what UConn has on the table, it's not nearly as game-changing.

No idea what he does, but I could see that UConn offer being enough to stay if the Lakers offer is indeed $100/8.

Agreed Brew. 

LAZER

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 08, 2024, 06:16:54 AM
Initial reports were that the Lakers were going to come in with $100M for around 5-6 years, so somewhere around $15-20M per year. This morning, reporting has it at $100M for 8 years, so $12.5M per. That's a big difference. If Hurley was tripling or quadrupling his salary, it seems certain he would go, but if it's a (relatively speaking) 25% raise over what UConn has on the table, it's not nearly as game-changing.

No idea what he does, but I could see that UConn offer being enough to stay if the Lakers offer is indeed $100/8.
25% raise and moving to LA, is that even a raise?

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 08, 2024, 06:16:54 AM
Initial reports were that the Lakers were going to come in with $100M for around 5-6 years, so somewhere around $15-20M per year. This morning, reporting has it at $100M for 8 years, so $12.5M per. That's a big difference. If Hurley was tripling or quadrupling his salary, it seems certain he would go, but if it's a (relatively speaking) 25% raise over what UConn has on the table, it's not nearly as game-changing.

No idea what he does, but I could see that UConn offer being enough to stay if the Lakers offer is indeed $100/8.

This is logical.

When it's all done, I'm looking forward to reading what the behind-the-scenes negotiations were. Hopefully Woj or someone else will be able to suss that out.
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Quote from: LAZER on June 08, 2024, 10:43:14 AM
25% raise and moving to LA, is that even a raise?
It's not much. A buddy was offered a position in LA from Chicago and the differential in pay was about 20% 5 years ago. (same company, same position)

Obviously, 20% around $100k/yr is different than 20% on $10M/yr. So not apples to apples. 

willie warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 08, 2024, 06:16:54 AM
Initial reports were that the Lakers were going to come in with $100M for around 5-6 years, so somewhere around $15-20M per year. This morning, reporting has it at $100M for 8 years, so $12.5M per. That's a big difference. If Hurley was tripling or quadrupling his salary, it seems certain he would go, but if it's a (relatively speaking) 25% raise over what UConn has on the table, it's not nearly as game-changing.

No idea what he does, but I could see that UConn offer being enough to stay if the Lakers offer is indeed $100/8.
What will UCOnn offer be
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Reportedly $10M/year, but no word on how many years.

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bilsu

I am not sure if they actually passed it. However, California was trying to put an exit tax on wealthy people who move out of California. It would be foolish for a wealthy person to move to California.

avid1010

Quote from: bilsu on June 08, 2024, 06:58:16 PM
I am not sure if they actually passed it. However, California was trying to put an exit tax on wealthy people who move out of California. It would be foolish for a wealthy person to move to California.
Even if they came out ahead after taxes?

warriorchick

Quote from: avid1010 on June 08, 2024, 07:12:19 PM
Even if they came out ahead after taxes?

Why are people assuming that if you throw enough money at Hurley, he will accept it?

There is no doubt that some of the jobs Shaka has been offered this year are millions per year more than he is making at Marquette.  Do you really think that if they doubled or tripled those offers, he would have taken one of them?

Both Shaka and Hurley know that their families will never have to worry about money again.  For both of them, I believe that the job itself would still have to be something that they really wanted.
Have some patience, FFS.

wadesworld

Hurley has stated multiple times he would like to coach in the NBA someday.

And yes, I think if teams tripled Shaka's money he'd be Smart to take it.

Foolish for a wealthy person to move to CA? There are a lot of foolish rich people in the world then.

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Quote from: warriorchick on June 08, 2024, 07:26:23 PM
Why are people assuming that if you throw enough money at Hurley, he will accept it?

There is no doubt that some of the jobs Shaka has been offered this year are millions per year more than he is making at Marquette.  Do you really think that if they doubled or tripled those offers, he would have taken one of them?

Both Shaka and Hurley know that their families will never have to worry about money again.  For both of them, I believe that the job itself would still have to be something that they really wanted.

I think if he goes it's about the challenge but accelerating the point at which your family doesn't have to worry about money makes it an easier choice.


I agree with you though if you mean that no one accepts or rejects the lakers head coach job because of the 'after tax salary'.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: warriorchick on June 08, 2024, 07:26:23 PM
Why are people assuming that if you throw enough money at Hurley, he will accept it?

There is no doubt that some of the jobs Shaka has been offered this year are millions per year more than he is making at Marquette.  Do you really think that if they doubled or tripled those offers, he would have taken one of them?

Both Shaka and Hurley know that their families will never have to worry about money again.  For both of them, I believe that the job itself would still have to be something that they really wanted.

For me its not the money that I think would move Hurley. I think it's the chance to coach the arguably top franchise in the inarguably top league in the world. He succeeds there like he's suceeded at UConn and he will forever be known as one of the greatest of all time in his profession.
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Quote from: bilsu on June 08, 2024, 06:58:16 PM
I am not sure if they actually passed it. However, California was trying to put an exit tax on wealthy people who move out of California. It would be foolish for a wealthy person to move to California.
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Quote from: warriorchick on June 08, 2024, 07:26:23 PM
Do you really think that if they doubled or tripled those offers, he would have taken one of them?


Yes. Triple the offer and he is absolutely saying "No Thanks....Im good"...... doubt it.

WarriorFan

NBA in general is much better than NCAA right now... the contracts are longer, dealing with adults, not kids.  Don't have to deal much with parents.  I wouldn't want to be an NCAA D1 coach dealing with NIL expectations.

Having said that, the Lakers job is probably the most unforgiving in the NCAA.  Since Phil Jackson left, there have been 7 different head coaches.  Hurley would be the 8th.  The franchise does not commit to coaches, and has made so many mistakes as coaching hires, they don't institutionally know what a good one is, so they've even fired some good ones!

if its 5 years guaranteed at 17m/year - definitely worth the jump.
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willie warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 08, 2024, 05:12:37 PM
Reportedly $10M/year, but no word on how many years.
I have heard other speculation of near $100 million for 6 years. That seems high. Heard his current salary is about 6 million
Doubt if UCONN could reach the 100 million, but they could likely get to 10 million per year.
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Quote from: willie warrior on June 08, 2024, 09:50:22 PM
I have heard other speculation of near $100 million for 6 years. That seems high. Heard his current salary is about 6 million
Doubt if UCONN could reach the 100 million, but they could likely get to 10 million per year.

I heard $200 million
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cheebs09

It feels like the longer this goes on, the more likely he is to stay.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 09, 2024, 06:47:04 AM
It feels like the longer this goes on, the more likely he is to stay.

Maybe so, but it could also mean that the details in a contract are being resolved. That takes time. Declining an offer can happen fairly quickly. It is also possible (or perhaps I should say likely) that Hurley is still playing UCONN and the Lakers against each other.
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