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Hards Alumni

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 02, 2024, 03:37:46 PM
JD 1994, Indiana University. Unlike your degree from the google school of law. Different jurisdictions have different definitions for assault and/or battery. I would venture to say all jurisdictions would agree that chanting from the river to the sea would not constitute an assault. The imminent harm element is not there.

Exactly.  It's quite literally why no one has been arrested for free speech. 

NASP is a titanically stupid person.  Should really replace the word Serious with Smart in his profile.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 03, 2024, 08:11:36 AM

So Hards's new standard is protestors he agrees with can hit people all they like as long as they don't hurt them is protected by the First Amendment.

They attacked her, and counter-protestors came to her aid; you cannot see what insanity you are arguing for?

You're so incredibly stupid, and you think you're so incredibly smart.  Her friends pulled her from approaching the barricades in a crouch.  She lost her balance and hit her head.  There is video of this.  I don't need a standard when I can see what happened.  You'll fall for any lie to try to create a narrative in your head.  As usual, your knee jerk reaction to get some sort of 'own' ends up being a self own.

She's as full of crap as you are for believing her story you absolute rube.

jesmu84

Kinda crazy that the House of Representatives - in a total bipartisan vote - just made it illegal to speak poorly of a foreign government.

forgetful

Quote from: jesmu84 on May 03, 2024, 06:12:40 PM
Kinda crazy that the House of Representatives - in a total bipartisan vote - just made it illegal to speak poorly of a foreign government.

I'm sure similar bills will soon be passed, where African American groups can define racism (All lives matter would be illegal), and CAIR will be allowed to define what constitutes discrimination against Arabs/muslims, and each group (i.e. Native Americans) will also be allowed to write their own definitions, which will be enacted into law for the Department of Education to follow.

Pakuni

Huh.

A group of pro-Israel counterprotestors repeatedly attacked pro-Palestine demonstrators at UCLA as police stood by, a New York Times investigation has found.

Separate reporting from The Daily Beast indicates the counterprotestors were partly funded by outside agitators.


.https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-israel-counterprotestors-instigated-violence-against-pro-palestine-demonstrators-ny-times-finds/


jesmu84

Quote from: Pakuni on May 03, 2024, 09:20:24 PM
Huh.

A group of pro-Israel counterprotestors repeatedly attacked pro-Palestine demonstrators at UCLA as police stood by, a New York Times investigation has found.

Separate reporting from The Daily Beast indicates the counterprotestors were partly funded by outside agitators.


.https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-israel-counterprotestors-instigated-violence-against-pro-palestine-demonstrators-ny-times-finds/

Boy, it would seem student safety and Jewish safety (as there are Jewish students in the pro-Palestine protest) are not at important and claimed by politicians, school administrators and the media

MU82

Quote from: jesmu84 on May 03, 2024, 06:12:40 PM
Kinda crazy that the House of Representatives - in a total bipartisan vote - just made it illegal to speak poorly of a foreign government.

Nothing could be done about all the Klan, neo-Nazi and white supremacist rallies over the decades because of First Amendment protections ... but now, all of sudden, this?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on May 03, 2024, 08:39:59 PM
I'm sure similar bills will soon be passed, where African American groups can define racism (All lives matter would be illegal), and CAIR will be allowed to define what constitutes discrimination against Arabs/muslims, and each group (i.e. Native Americans) will also be allowed to write their own definitions, which will be enacted into law for the Department of Education to follow.

The Bill has parts that are definitely vague and problematic with regard to free speech.  That said, Title 6 of the Civil Rights Bill in the 60s is also unconstitutional. College and Universities have a code of conduct and the ability to enforce them.  The fact that they selectively do so is what's at issue.  Essentially, this  particular  Bill is bad and exacerbates the situation and future problems. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 04, 2024, 07:43:51 AM
The Bill has parts that are definitely vague and problematic with regard to free speech.  That said, Title 6 of the Civil Rights Bill in the 60s is also unconstitutional. College and Universities have a code of conduct and the ability to enforce them.  The fact that they selectively do so is what's at issue.  Essentially, this  particular  Bill is bad and exacerbates the situation and future problems. 

Uh...WTF are you talking about?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

https://wallstreetjournal-ny.newsmemory.com/?publink=04bd67e6d_134d29c


Neva gonna happen 'cuz da Palestinians don't want it to happen, aina?


#fromthejordanrivertothemediterreanseaandpalestinewillbefree

#neveragain
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:17:00 AM
https://wallstreetjournal-ny.newsmemory.com/?publink=04bd67e6d_134d29c


Neva gonna happen 'cuz da Palestinians don't want it to happen, aina?

Hamas doesn't want it to happen. The Palestinians most assuredly do.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Well, the Palestinians, then, should never have elected Hamas to govern Gaza, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:49:55 AM
Well, the Palestinians, then, should never have elected Hamas to govern Gaza, aina?

That election occurred in 2006, and Hamas secured less than 50% of the vote. Of course there have been no elections since then because Hamas suspended further elections. Oh and half the people who currently live in Gaza weren't even born then.

The fact that this is enough of a justification to say "tough sh*t....you deserve what you get" is pretty gross.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Hamas wouldn't have any significant power/control if it weren't for Israel and Netanyahu

jesmu84

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 04, 2024, 08:55:16 AM

The fact that this is enough of a justification to say "tough sh*t....you deserve what you get" is pretty gross.

His morality scale isn't properly balanced.

I guess the Jesuit teaching never took hold

MU82

Quote from: jesmu84 on May 04, 2024, 08:59:32 AM
Hamas wouldn't have any significant power/control if it weren't for Israel and Netanyahu

Yeah, that's a slippery slope. You could also blame the U.S., Iran, other Arab countries, Russia, etc.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:49:55 AM
Well, the Palestinians, then, should never have elected Hamas to govern Gaza, aina?

Well, the Israelis killed on Oct. 7 shouldn't have elected a government that for years helped fund Hamas then failed to protectthem, aina?

4everwarriors

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 04, 2024, 08:55:16 AM
That election occurred in 2006, and Hamas secured less than 50% of the vote. Of course there have been no elections since then because Hamas suspended further elections. Oh and half the people who currently live in Gaza weren't even born then.

The fact that this is enough of a justification to say "tough sh*t....you deserve what you get" is pretty gross.



Call the truth whatever you want to call it, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 10:33:49 AM
Call the truth whatever you want to call it, aina?

That's kinda what I figured.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

If the facts are accurate, da Buffoon gave a boatload of U.S. cash to Iran. In turn, the Iranians fund Hamas. See how that works? As I've stated before, Israel could bury Hamas right in their sandbox, if Blinken and da BOTUS would get out of their way. But, see, we have an election in November and the incumbent needs every vote he can pander to, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 10:40:17 AM
If the facts are accurate, da Buffoon gave a boatload of U.S. cash to Iran. In turn, the Iranians fund Hamas. See how that works? As I've stated before, Israel could bury Hamas right in their sandbox, if Blinken and da BOTUS would get out of their way. But, see, we have an election in November and the incumbent needs every vote he can pander to, aina?

Israel would not be able to bury Hamas. You have a weak understanding of how terrorist movements work.

Would you feel that Israel would be justified if they used nuclear weapons on Gaza?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 10:40:17 AM
If the facts are accurate, da Buffoon gave a boatload of U.S. cash to Iran. In turn, the Iranians fund Hamas. See how that works? As I've stated before, Israel could bury Hamas right in their sandbox, if Blinken and da BOTUS would get out of their way. But, see, we have an election in November and the incumbent needs every vote he can pander to, aina?

You're a sick individual who repeatedly affirms you don't care about the murder of civilians.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

#472
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:49:55 AM
Well, the Palestinians, then, should never have elected Hamas to govern Gaza, aina?

"You shouldn't have been wearing that if you didn't want to get raped"

Hope your victim blaming equivalence of the above hits home, as you have stated so many times before how much you supposedly care about the victims of Oct 7th.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

4everwarriors

Quote from: jesmu84 on May 04, 2024, 11:08:06 AM
You're a sick individual who repeatedly affirms you don't care about the murder of civilians.



You have repeatedly defended murders and terrorists on this site forever in disguise as a bleeding heart liberal. Sounds more like antisemitism than anything else, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 04, 2024, 10:43:41 AM
Israel would not be able to bury Hamas. You have a weak understanding of how terrorist movements work.

Would you feel that Israel would be justified if they used nuclear weapons on Gaza?


No need for nukes. A slingshot would be more than 'nough, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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