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Author Topic: 2023-2024 Season Grades  (Read 3271 times)

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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2024, 05:37:20 PM »
A: Shaka, Kolek, Oso, Kam, Mitchell
B: Joplin, Gold, Ross, Sean
C: Norman, Lowery
Inc: Al

Joplin    F minus.....

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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2024, 05:40:51 PM »
Pretty impressive to be in top 10 most of the season and get a 2 seed with only 2 above average players.

To be fair Im not sure these grades are necessarily relative to college bball as a whole.

Could be expectations or development wise as well
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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2024, 05:46:41 PM »
To be fair Im not sure these grades are necessarily relative to college bball as a whole.

Could be expectations or development wise as well

We’re talking about Willie’s grades here.

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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2024, 05:48:44 PM »
We’re talking about Willie’s grades here.

Valid point.

Just meant peoples as a whole tho.

But yes, get what ya mean.
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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2024, 08:45:54 PM »
MU is a Whole is a Greater Than Sum of the Parts type team. So my grades are based on the whole team.

So for the 25 games we won, I would give the team an A. We had several Excellent wins, and won many games when we were only playing Solid which is the mark of an Excellent team.

For the 10 Losses, I would give the team an overall B which is not bad. The NC State loss was a bit of Emperor Has No Clothes vibe but I will write it off to nerves not being up to the moment and that is on the Coach just as much as the players.  However, We only had the one bad loss at Home in regular season to Butler. A blowout on the road at U Conn and Providence ( with Hopkins) are par for the course in a tough league such as the Big East. Seton Hall  loss sucked for sure,  but it was a road game against a team that did well in conference and we hadn't yet figured out a method to play through brutality.   In  3 of the losses MU was  without the Best Player on the Team, and we still were competitive for most of those games until we wore out. 

So overall weighted average grade point for the team 3.71

The Individual Grades  would be average to a much lower total than the team around 3.44 as a lot more Bs than As
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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2024, 09:53:11 PM »
Shaka - A. Lots of illness and injuries overcome in a solid season.

Kolek - A+. Our best player by a mile.

Kam - A-. Phenomenal scorer, didn’t have long periods of disappearing like in the past.

Stevie - B+. Our best defender and a good leader. Hurts us at times on the offensive end.

Oso - B. Had an “A” going into the final but a C- there hurt his grade.

Jop - C. Had some big moments but even more head scratching ones.

I’d give everyone else incompletes, just not enough data to judge by.

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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2024, 11:11:20 PM »
5 of our 10 losses came against teams in the final four.

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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2024, 08:24:51 AM »
I think people are overlooking the impact JTY could have had on this roster down the stretch.  Mainly on the defensive side, but I also thought he would have improved offensively.  He also had his moments with two thanks for playing shots.  The one thing he could do is move the defense with his zoomability downhill.  I wouldn't sleep on this young man or hold his stature against him.  I love the kid and believe he will come back stronger.  He's a better Peyton Siva imo.

Sean was one of our worst defenders. He's disruptive but hes turnover or bust. If he didn't get a turnover,  the other team likely scored.  He'll get better after he recovers
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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2024, 08:28:41 AM »
Sean was one of our worst defenders. He's disruptive but hes turnover or bust. If he didn't get a turnover,  the other team likely scored.  He'll get better after he recovers

Not only that, but offensively he has to get better from deep. When you are that short and can't shoot, it really takes away from the threat your speed gives you because people will just lay off you.
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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2024, 09:34:00 AM »
Solid A- from me. Or A/B for those from that era of grading.
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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2024, 04:50:35 PM »
Sean was one of our worst defenders. He's disruptive but hes turnover or bust. If he didn't get a turnover,  the other team likely scored.  He'll get better after he recovers

100% agree. Sean is fun to watch and makes some big plays but for this year anyway the team was better off having Kolek play 38+ minutes.

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Re: 2023-2024 Season Grades
« Reply #61 on: April 02, 2024, 06:52:51 PM »
I love Sean's heart.  I want him to heal and reach his full potential and stay at MU.  That said, there are additional challenges being a 5'10 in the Big East and particularly in Shaka's defensive system.   
Switching 1-5 is a nightmare.  Particularly when Ben gets isolated on the PG in space and Sean had the post.   You could see MU shade and immediately collapse on the lob.    That led to poor recoveries or fouls.
   Offensively, Sean was improving, but the offense lacked the seamless motion and flow it had when Tyler played on the ball.  Sean could get into the paint at will, which was awesome, but it didn't always feel like he had a plan for what was next.

Anyway, recover fully, young Mr. Jones.  I look forward to seeing you return and what you can become.
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