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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Nukem2 on February 10, 2025, 03:19:39 PMYep, why is he bothering with this all?

So, this guy has had only 6 games in 3 years that he was interested in, and we went 3-3. And he's calling Buzz a "weirdo?"  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Quote from: 1SE on February 10, 2025, 06:27:38 AMBecause if we're ever gonna win a natty, we'll likely have to win at least 1 NCATT game we "shouldn't"
Or a couple.

DoctorV

Leave Shaka alone and let him do his work in peace.

He's everything Marquette could hope for.

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Quote from: DoctorV on February 10, 2025, 10:33:24 PMLeave Shaka alone and let him do his work in peace.

He's everything Marquette could hope for.

Yep. 

Pakuni

Quote from: DoctorV on February 10, 2025, 10:33:24 PMLeave Shaka alone and let him do his work in peace.

He's everything Marquette could hope for.

Are you under the impression that Shaka concerns himself with the ravings of Scoop?

DoctorV

Quote from: Pakuni on February 10, 2025, 11:06:18 PMAre you under the impression that Shaka concerns himself with the ravings of Scoop?

Yes.
He spends 30 minutes on scoop every morning while getting his morning light

1SE

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 10, 2025, 03:05:40 PMJust to confirm, 2011 > 2023 to you?

Yep. Would much rather be Cinderella s16 than a 2 seed that doesn't make the second weekend.

Again - that's just my preference - others might have other preferences.

Why am I here? Because where one is seeded matters for their expected (statistical) NCAAT success. The regular season sets up the NCAAT. In years where we fall off the bubble I do pretty much stop watching/caring. My (really one and only) frustration with Shaka to date is that he has underperformed based on his NCAAT seed expectations. If people want to argue that, ok, but it's certainly a reasonable POV given what we've observed. But it's a small sample size and I hope we turn it around this year. There is some argument to be made that there's more opportunity to "overperform" as a lower seed.

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MUDPT

Quote from: 1SE on February 11, 2025, 01:15:10 AMYep. Would much rather be Cinderella s16 than a 2 seed that doesn't make the second weekend.

Again - that's just my preference - others might have other preferences.

Why am I here? Because where one is seeded matters for their expected (statistical) NCAAT success. The regular season sets up the NCAAT. In years where we fall off the bubble I do pretty much stop watching/caring. My (really one and only) frustration with Shaka to date is that he has underperformed based on his NCAAT seed expectations. If people want to argue that, ok, but it's certainly a reasonable POV given what we've observed. But it's a small sample size and I hope we turn it around this year. There is some argument to be made that there's more opportunity to "overperform" as a lower seed.



So you would rather go 0-30 in the regular season, win the BET and get to the S16 than win the regular season BE, win the BET, and lose in the 2nd round?

1SE

Quote from: MUDPT on February 11, 2025, 05:35:35 AMSo you would rather go 0-30 in the regular season, win the BET and get to the S16 than win the regular season BE, win the BET, and lose in the 2nd round?

I mean the former is pretty unlikely - but it would also be one of the all time great stories in college basketball. They'd probably make a movie about it since it would certainly be a play-in 16 seed making it to the Sweet 16.

Whereas the latter was a nice season by a high-major that ended in disappointment and probably no one other than the fanbase really remember - probably dozens of examples of that.
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Quote from: 1SE on February 11, 2025, 01:15:10 AMYep. Would much rather be Cinderella s16 than a 2 seed that doesn't make the second weekend.

Again - that's just my preference - others might have other preferences.

Why am I here? Because where one is seeded matters for their expected (statistical) NCAAT success. The regular season sets up the NCAAT. In years where we fall off the bubble I do pretty much stop watching/caring. My (really one and only) frustration with Shaka to date is that he has underperformed based on his NCAAT seed expectations. If people want to argue that, ok, but it's certainly a reasonable POV given what we've observed. But it's a small sample size and I hope we turn it around this year. There is some argument to be made that there's more opportunity to "overperform" as a lower seed.


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Quote from: MUDPT on February 11, 2025, 05:35:35 AMSo you would rather go 0-30 in the regular season, win the BET and get to the S16 than win the regular season BE, win the BET, and lose in the 2nd round?

That would be pretty fun, to be honest.
Would be one of the most memorable runs of all time.

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Quote from: 1SE on February 11, 2025, 05:42:14 AMI mean the former is pretty unlikely - but it would also be one of the all time great stories in college basketball. They'd probably make a movie about it since it would certainly be a play-in 16 seed making it to the Sweet 16.

Whereas the latter was a nice season by a high-major that ended in disappointment and probably no one other than the fanbase really remember - probably dozens of examples of that.

Fair enough. I could see taking that for a Final Four maybe an elite 8 but I think you're over valuing a sweet 16's importance in the lore of college basketball. I can tell you almost every Bug East champion since 08-09 (spoiler most are nova) and I'm sure many Big East fans could as well. Whereas outside of MU I'm very confident almost nobody recalls 94, 11, 12 and even 13. It is remembered if you're there every year like Xavier used to be, but it's not etched in CBB lore unless. It's actually a Cinderella team. 
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And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means

1SE

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 11, 2025, 09:20:55 AMFair enough. I could see taking that for a Final Four maybe an elite 8 but I think you're over valuing a sweet 16's importance in the lore of college basketball. I can tell you almost every Bug East champion since 08-09 (spoiler most are nova) and I'm sure many Big East fans could as well. Whereas outside of MU I'm very confident almost nobody recalls 94, 11, 12 and even 13. It is remembered if you're there every year like Xavier used to be, but it's not etched in CBB lore unless. It's actually a Cinderella team. 

I mean I think everyone who "knows ball" would remember an 0-30 team that made the S16. I think everyone who "knows ball" would also remember a 16-seed play-in who made the S16.

And again, lots of people value regular season conference accolades - that's great. I mean they're nice, and it was fun and exciting to win the BE, but for me I don't really care about them as much given the conference churn - but different strokes for different folks. I'd probably rather than an in-season #1 ranking
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Quote from: 1SE on February 11, 2025, 01:42:10 PMI mean I think everyone who "knows ball" would remember an 0-30 team that made the S16. I think everyone who "knows ball" would also remember a 16-seed play-in who made the S16.

And again, lots of people value regular season conference accolades - that's great. I mean they're nice, and it was fun and exciting to win the BE, but for me I don't really care about them as much given the conference churn - but different strokes for different folks. I'd probably rather than an in-season #1 ranking
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