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Marquette vs.
Central Michigan
Date/Time: Nov 11, 2024 8:00pm
TV: FS1
Schedule for 2024-25
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 23, 2024, 10:35:41 AM
Well of course they'll be late.  The need to practice their dance. 



They teach that dance at freshman orientation. I'm not kidding.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

mu_hilltopper

Also to cherry pick stats .. while yesterday, CU scored 102 (while giving up 100) ..

The game before, they only scored 60 .. gave up 53.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2024, 11:26:26 AM
I don't understand the Oso is hurt that bad.  He played 33 minutes, continually brought the ball up mid court, had 8 rebounds, 5 blocks and yes he missed five of his close range shots. If he had made like three of them, would there even be a discussion?  Had two turnovers, one of which was a complete brain malfunction, but overall not bad, bad.  Kolek hurt, well 18 and 11. Mitchell hurt, one of his best games ever.  Hopefully all this injury talk is not a precursor to excuses if it doesn't go as planned tomorrow.

I just read this entire thread

No one is talking injuries. Did you just create a narrative in your head?
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....


HutchwasClutch

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 23, 2024, 11:51:20 AM
I just read this entire thread

No one is talking injuries. Did you just create a narrative in your head?

Look at the Kolek Update thread.

Dr. Blackheart

Put Omax on Da Silva...oh wait

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 23, 2024, 11:51:20 AM
I just read this entire thread

No one is talking injuries. Did you just create a narrative in your head?
I think it's pretty clear from watching him move that the knee is a limiting factor and he is not moving with the same fluidity. 

Maybe I'm making it up in my head but seems pretty obvious.

MU82

Da Silva is an interesting player. He seems very willing to chill for long stretches, just standing at the arc and waiting for passes that might never come. It was Simpson who had the onions to take the game-winner.

His team just scored 102 points and he took all of 10 shots. He didn't attack all that often. And he was not a factor on defense.

Previous game vs Boise, he scored 20 of their 60 points ... but I was surprised to see that when I saw the box score after having watched much of the game. He scored a total of 36 points in three P12 tourney games in which he averaged 37 mins.

But he's obviously skilled, very smooth, good size, and I can see why the NBA is interested.

I hope he has one of his 9-point, no-factor games tomorrow.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

nyg

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2024, 11:58:01 AM
Look at the Kolek Update thread.

And Big Papi's post here a few before what I brought up.  And ATL Warrior's post here following mine. 

I don't create narratives. Injuries have been discussed in a prominent manner all over this board.

HutchwasClutch

#84
Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2024, 12:07:58 PM
And Big Papi's post here a few before what I brought up.  And ATL Warrior's post here following mine. 

I don't create narratives. Injuries have been discussed in a prominent manner all over this board.

Umm, I wasn't arguing you were. I pointed out to PG what you were referring to after he said you're creating narratives and no one is talking about injuries.


nyg

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2024, 12:11:59 PM
Umm, I wasn't arguing you were. I pointed out to PG what you were referring to after he said you're creating narratives.

Oh I know...  I appreciate it.  Just used your post as an example/proof, along with the other two examples, to show I was not making this up.  Thanks

HutchwasClutch

#86
Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2024, 12:16:20 PM
Oh I know...  I appreciate it.  Just used your post as an example/proof, along with the other two examples, to show I was not making this up.  Thanks

Got it. And agree with the point you made about those raising injury concerns.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2024, 11:20:04 AM
Lampkin is very poor a defending the pick and roll. Oso is going to turn him into bbq chicken.

On the other end, he's a load, but I don't think he can beat us by himself. If Lampkin is their leading scorer, I think the game is going well for us.

Da Silva scares me the most. I would consider putting Oso on Da Silva and having Jop/Ben handle Lampkin

I agree on the assignments. Jop losing De Silva is the nightmare scenario. Lampkin plays below the rim and Jop matches well with him for the type of interior defense that could stifle him.

X factor is Williams and who guards him.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2024, 12:19:39 PM
Got it. And agree with the point you made about raising injury concerns.
And what point is that?

HutchwasClutch

I think rebounding is a major concern tomorrow.  Colorado is one of the best in the country, 11th nationally team rebounding percentage and 19th nationally team rebounding margin.  We're 286 & 303 in those two categories.

HutchwasClutch

#90
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 23, 2024, 12:22:45 PM
And what point is that?

I don't really understand what you need clarity on, but both the initial and final points of nyg's posts, especially the final point.

Or maybe you know and just want to argue.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2024, 12:25:44 PM
I think rebounding is a major concern tomorrow.  Colorado is one of the best in the country, 11th nationally team rebounding percentage and 19th nationally team rebounding margin.  We're 286 & 303 in those two categories.

They're 92nd nationally in offensive reboudning, 29th in defensive rebounds. Offensive rebounds aren't something we rely on so the high defensive rebounding doesn't bother me.

Also, they posted major offensive rebounding numbers in 2023, they've been very average in 2024.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Badgerhater

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2024, 12:44:02 PM
They're 92nd nationally in offensive reboudning, 29th in defensive rebounds. Offensive rebounds aren't something we rely on so the high defensive rebounding doesn't bother me.

Also, they posted major offensive rebounding numbers in 2023, they've been very average in 2024.

If MU does not miss and forces lots of turnovers then there are no rebounds to be had.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Badgerhater on March 23, 2024, 12:46:53 PM
If MU does not miss and forces lots of turnovers then there are no rebounds to be had.

Their misses don't need to be rebounded?

PointWarrior

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2024, 12:41:14 PM
You are Nat King COLE.


That makes no sense, I am arguing for higher expectations.

real chili 83

Shut down the Taco Bell's and remove all the Doritos from the 7-11's in Indy, and they will be malnourished when they play tomorrow.

Badgerhater

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2024, 12:50:03 PM
Their misses don't need to be rebounded?

Only if they miss.  My point is don't miss.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 23, 2024, 01:36:40 PM
Shut down the Taco Bell's and remove all the Doritos from the 7-11's in Indy, and they will be malnourished when they play tomorrow.

Ha! 

Johnny B

Quote from: forgetful on March 23, 2024, 11:16:37 AM
Oso needs to attack Lampkin. Oso is quicker/more athletic and can give him trouble if he attacks. Possibly draw a couple fouls.

When Gold/Jop are in and on him, they can both play on the perimeter and attack off the bounce. They may be at a disadvantage guarding him in the post, but he is going to be at a significant disadvantage guarding them on the perimeter. Either open looks for 3, or take him off the bounce and get him in foul trouble.

While I think Lampkin will be a load to deal with, I'm more worried about:

1. Tristan da Silva: Likely 1st round pick. 6'9"
2. K.J. Simpson: Possible 1st round pick. 6'2"
3. Cody Williams: Likely lottery pick. 6'8"

I think Mitchell does Mitchell things guarding Simpson. What will be a big decider in the game is how well Williams (Frosh coming off an ankle injury) and da Silva play, and on our side how much we can turn them over for easy buckets, and how well Kolek, Oso, and Kam play.

This is a game where in the post, Oso could give them trouble with his ability to take his man off the bounce, and when Lampkin is in, abuse them on the pick and roll. Need a big game from Oso. Hope he is healthy.

As I said before, at this point everyone is good, and not being on your A-game sends you home. But in this game, if both teams play their A-game. We win.
They have 3 first round draft picks in the line up and they're a 10 seed? What am I missing. What's the weakness

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