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MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on September 15, 2024, 11:59:11 AM
Because there have been so many better players that weren't unanimous. They chose Rivera over Maddux, Smoltz, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, etc, to break their unwritten rule? They were all far superior to Rivera. And I haven't even mentioned any of the hitters who were better.



The answer is simple. He played in NY.

Rivera had a .70 postseason era. 

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 15, 2024, 12:27:54 PM
Rivera had a .70 postseason era.

Don't act like I said Rivera wasn't a great player. He was.

Not even the the conversation for GOAT, though.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on September 15, 2024, 12:35:18 PM
Don't act like I said Rivera wasn't a great player. He was.

Not even the the conversation for GOAT, though.

It's hard to say those aforementioned players ar far superior to Rivera, especially when you look at the postseason.  And I don't think you can really compare a starter to a closer anyway. 

The Sultan

Yeah I know there were better players but he deserved it. No biggie.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 15, 2024, 12:50:21 PM
Yeah I know there were better players but he deserved it. No biggie.

End of conversation.

CreightonWarrior

It was a dumb unwritten rule, glad someone was able to break through.

MuggsyB

I'll admit I haven't seen much of the Brewers but I like this Chourio kid.  He's 20?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 15, 2024, 06:52:02 PM
I'll admit I haven't seen much of the Brewers but I like this Chourio kid.  He's 20?

I can't find anywhere that says how old he is. 
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 15, 2024, 07:03:09 PM
I can't find anywhere that says how old he is.

I don't care for Google. 

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Muggsy, if you used Google first, think about how many threads never get started.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on September 15, 2024, 07:32:06 PM
Muggsy, if you used Google first, think about how many threads never get started.

Then I have made the right decision.  Ty. 

MUfan12

Another Murphy masterclass today. I really want to love the guy but his bullpen management stinks out loud.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MUfan12 on September 15, 2024, 09:14:04 PM
Another Murphy masterclass today. I really want to love the guy but his bullpen management stinks out loud.

That was odd for sure. 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jockey on September 15, 2024, 12:35:18 PM
Don't act like I said Rivera wasn't a great player. He was.

Not even the the conversation for GOAT, though.

He was the greatest relief pitcher ever. But he was a relief pitcher, FFS, a position generally saved for guys unable to make their mark as starters. Dennis Eckersly was only a notch behind Rivera as a closer but way way behind lots of guys who'll never get a hall of fame vote as a starter. Light years away from being the GOAT of pitchers.

GB Warrior

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 15, 2024, 10:12:56 PM
That was odd for sure.

A much better showing tonight, Milner notwithstanding. But gee, would be nice to be be one game closer to a 2 seed.

I think we'll see some wonky stuff as they line up their postseason rotation. Lot of things they could do but betting the top 3 starters are Peralta, Myers and Montas. I hope they give Freddie DL Hall as an opener

MUfan12

With the way he has pitched at home, I'd try to work Civale in for a home start if possible.

tower912

Quote from: tower912 on July 21, 2024, 04:05:50 PM
Skubal and Flaherty are great pieces for trading.   However, right now there are so many starting pitchers throughout the Tigers system injured that if Dettoit traded them every day would have to be a bullpen day.   Like Tampa, only not by choice.
Man, this was prescient.   Little did I know that Detroit would turn necessity into a virtue.    Like Buzz with the midgets.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: wadesworld on September 15, 2024, 12:10:50 PM
Willie Mays asked that his first Gold Glove trophy goes to me after his passing. I told him I could not accept that.

Signed, Herman Cain
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Jockey

Maybe Herman can finally meet Willie now - although I suspect they may be at different locations.

SoCalEagle

Ohtani now at 48/48.

One homer today after a four game "drought."  It will be fun watching him play the last two weeks of the season to see if he gets there.

MU82

First player ever with 48 HR, 48 SB, 108 RBI and 77 BB!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Its DJOver

Somebody get that Chourio kid some sparkling grape juice.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MU1in77

Quote from: MU1in77 on September 07, 2024, 04:29:25 PM
How come it's Sept 7, the Brewers are up by 9 1/2 games over the Cubs and i'm still worried about them winning the division?
Never a doubt!

Jockey

And they did it with one of the worst managers in baseball.  ;D ;D

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