MLB 2024 Season

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Actually pretty similar I think. Good culture guys and motivators who make some weird ass decisions. But I might be misremembering Ned, I was pretty young.

"I'm not sure what his worst trait was. It's a toss-up between horrible bullpen management, no accountability for the players for a lack of on-field production, or being completely condescending to the media. Early in 2008 he was asked by a reporter if he found it a little odd that Rickie Weeks was one of the league leaders in runs scored, despite having a below-average on-base percentage (compared to other league leaders in runs scored). A rational human being would acknowledge the numbers then say something positive about his player and move on from there. Ned answered a different way: "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

I specifically remember my head almost exploding when reading that. You also can't forget Ned's infamous "Money Order" where each postion on the field had an assigned spot in the batting order and it didn't matter who was playin that position, the order remained the same. You can read more about this phenomenon here."

https://sports.yahoo.com/10-best-things-being-brewers-fan-140122485.html

[wadesworld]

I think everyone outside of Milwaukee expected the Brewers to fall off this year. They have the 3rd best record in the MLB. Murphy has been very good. No manager makes every correct decision.

[MUfan12]

I think everyone outside of Milwaukee expected the Brewers to fall off this year. They have the 3rd best record in the MLB. Murphy has been very good. No manager makes every correct decision.

Respectfully, that's how I can tell you're following standings. And that's fine. But the folks who watch them night in and night out have seen some really head-scratching in game decisions. Stuff that's getting called out even before it fails.

It's just jarring going from Counsell who was very data driven to Murphy who is largely going on vibes.

[ChuckyChip]

SoCal,

Playing in the field at minimum is a tie breaker. Playing a premium position at an elite level is much more than that.But Ohtani at or near 50/50 will win going away this year. Kettle Marte had an outside chance before an extended stay on the IL, same with Ozuna when it looked like he'd win the triple crown.

Any love for Willy Adamas?  He plays a premium position and hasn't missed a game all season.  His leadership has really driven the Brewers this season.  Also tied with Ohtani for NL RBI lead with 101.  If the award was truly for the 'most valuable" Adamas would have a chance, but it tends to be a "best stats" award.

[Jockey]

Judge is clearly the best hitter in baseball this year. Not even close.

Othani is obviously the best hitter in the NL, but is he the MVP only playing half the game?  For me, the answer is no, but I understand why he will win the award.

[Lennys Tap]

Any love for Willy Adamas?  He plays a premium position and hasn't missed a game all season.  His leadership has really driven the Brewers this season.  Also tied with Ohtani for NL RBI lead with 101.  If the award was truly for the 'most valuable" Adamas would have a chance, but it tends to be a "best stats" award.

Adames and Lindor round out the top 5 for me.

[Jockey]

Don't get the lack of love for Lindor. Barring Injury:

1. Sure-fire 1st ballot HoFer
2. Will be #1 all-time HRs for a SS.
3. Elite defense.
4. #5 in WAR in MLB over last 5 years (yet didn't make an All-Star team).
5. WAR since June 1st is more than double of everyone except a handful of players in the NL and 1.9 better than Ohtani (did I mention he is elite on defense while Ohtani is non-existent?).

Simply put, he is a Hall of Famer at the apex of his career.

(Stats from FanGraphs.)

[JWags85]

Don't get the lack of love for Lindor. Barring Injury:

1. Sure-fire 1st ballot HoFer
2. Will be #1 all-time HRs for a SS.
3. Elite defense.
4. #5 in WAR in MLB over last 5 years (yet didn't make an All-Star team).
5. WAR since June 1st is more than double of everyone except a handful of players in the NL and 1.9 better than Ohtani (did I mention he is elite on defense while Ohtani is non-existent?).

Simply put, he is a Hall of Famer at the apex of his career.

(Stats from FanGraphs.)

One of the most insanely underrated players of the last 10 years.

I don't think its fair, but I feel like he got largely written off when he went to the Mets, and their lack of playoff success has been held against him.  Hell, he's been top 10 in MVP voting the last 2 years, All MLB team...and hasn't been an All Star since before COVID. 

What's also funny, he was at his peak superstar buzz those years during and after their WS run (16-18).  His oWAR during that time? 15.6   His oWAR the last 3 years? 17.1.  The Mets have been a mess but he's been nothing but consistent while getting overlooked as a result (even as a 30-30 guy last year).

Hate to be that guy, but if he went to the Yankees instead of the Mets in 2021, he's probably got 8 ASG appearances and at least one more GG and SS.

[MU82]

Hate to be that guy, but if he went to the Yankees instead of the Mets in 2021, he's probably got 8 ASG appearances and at least one more GG and SS.

Why do you hate to be accurate?

[MUBurrow]

No doubt those are the primary reasons Lindor doesn't get the love he deserves.  If looking for a pure baseball reason, maybe its that he's always been a notoriously slow starter.  I only know that from playing fantasy - his full season numbers always look great, he gets drafted accordingly, and then whoever has him is very frustrated in May.  He heats up as the summer wears on, but maybe by then folks have partially written him off.

[WhiteTrash]

Pop the cork! Sox are now 80 games under .500.

[PGsHeroes32]

Through 3 innings

Ohtani has gotten his 47 homer and his 48th stolen bag tonight

Simply incredible

[PGsHeroes32]

Lindor surging into the MVP race creates a fun debate.

I still think even as a DH a FIFTY/FIFTY Ohtani should be a landslide winner. Also considering Dodgers haven't been a beacon of health around him.

But either way, still a good debate. And Lindor is crazy underrated.

But, David Ortiz comments I just saw. JFC. Guy should be forced to take a post season off.

Yeah bud, you not getting MVP is super similar.

[Pakuni]

Just like a young Crash Davis.

The Minnesota Twins released minor league catcher Derek Bender on Thursday after he told opposing hitters the types of pitches that were coming to the plate during at-bats in the game last week that eliminated his team from playoff contention, sources told ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41238109/sources-twins-cut-derek-bender-catcher-told-opposing-hitters-incoming-pitch

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The Brewers next 22 games are against teams that don't currently have a winning record.  The pessimist in me says this is the kind of stretch the Brewers usually choke on.  The optimist in me says ef that,  let's nab a first round bye

@Braves, Reds, Dodgers (x4), Guardians: 10-3
@Cards, @As, Giants, @Reds (x4), Cards, Rockies, @Giants: 12-10

Not out of the first-round bye conversation, but it's always frustrating to be mediocre against mediocre when you have the best run differential in baseball.

Extra frustrating? 7/10 of those losses were in extras and/or by 1 run. 1-4 in extra innings during that stretch.

[jficke13]

Just like a young Crash Davis.

The Minnesota Twins released minor league catcher Derek Bender on Thursday after he told opposing hitters the types of pitches that were coming to the plate during at-bats in the game last week that eliminated his team from playoff contention, sources told ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41238109/sources-twins-cut-derek-bender-catcher-told-opposing-hitters-incoming-pitch

That's a wild story.

[MuggsyB]

Any Scoopers see Clemente play? 

[Jockey]

Any Scoopers see Clemente play?

Saw him many ties as a kid. Think of his playing style as a combination of Willie Mays & Yasiel Puig.

[MuggsyB]

Saw him many ties as a kid. Think of his playing style as a combination of Willie Mays & Yasiel Puig.

12 gold gloves doesn't suck. 

[The Sultan]

Imagine someone having the career he did, and dying the way he did, yet not being unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame.

[MuggsyB]

Imagine someone having the career he did, and dying the way he did, yet not being unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame.

That's absurd.  What an awful tragedy. 

[Jockey]

That's absurd.  What an awful tragedy.

Of Course. For some reason, it was an unwritten rule (probably established by Tony LaRussa's dad) that nobody got a unanimous selection.

Even worse the one guy who is now a unanimous selection is Mariano Rivera.

[The Sultan]

Of Course. For some reason, it was an unwritten rule (probably established by Tony LaRussa's dad) that nobody got a unanimous selection.

Even worse the one guy who is now a unanimous selection is Mariano Rivera.

Why is that worse?

[Jockey]

Why is that worse?

Because there have been so many better players that weren't unanimous. They chose Rivera over Maddux, Smoltz, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, etc, to break their unwritten rule? They were all far superior to Rivera. And I haven't even mentioned any of the hitters who were better.

The answer is simple. He played in NY.

[wadesworld]

Willie Mays asked that his first Gold Glove trophy goes to me after his passing. I told him I could not accept that.