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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: DoctorV on March 03, 2024, 12:45:21 PM
I'm pretty sure they do, if one wins it's conference tournament.
We saw the exact scenario last year with Marquette, even though Marquette won the double so that was more obvious imo

Marquette moved from the 2nd or third 3 seed to the last 2 seed at this point last season.

Right now,  Marquette is the third 2 seed and both Creighton and illinois are likely on the 4 seed line,  possibly 5 seed for Illinois. It's a much larger gap to make up. Theoretically possible, but i think it would take us losing out and them winning out.

People overestimate how much movement happens this late in the season
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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cheebs09

I also think the committee will not penalize MU much for losses without Kolek (and Oso). I think if Kolek comes back by the BET, they may not put as much stock in the last few games as if we were healthy.

wisblue

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 03, 2024, 01:20:07 PM
I also think the committee will not penalize MU much for losses without Kolek (and Oso). I think if Kolek comes back by the BET, they may not put as much stock in the last few games as if we were healthy.

It's less a matter of penalizing MU than MU standing still or drifting back a little while other teams are improving their resumes.

I doubt if they "penalize" Creighton by discounting their win.

I don't think Creighton needs to win out or have MU lose out to pass MU on the seed list.

If Creighton wins its only remaining regular season game at Villanova and advances to the BET final that will probably be good enough.

I would reconsider this if MU shocks me and beats UConn without Kolek and who knows who else on the roster weakened from illness. I don't think a win at Xavier and/or in the first round win of the BET would be enough to keep MU ahead, especially since CU might have two recent head to head wins.

brewcity77

When I saw the announcement Kolek would be out until the BET, I honestly think that might be to encourage the Selection Committee to discount negative results without TKO. We are a solid 2-seed and even with a pair of Q1 losses should still be right in that mix. Every committee is different, so who knows if it will work, but I could see them ignoring our results, especially if we add at least one win this week and make the BET semis.

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wadesworld

But if Kolek doesn't play in the BET, can the committee just look at MU's Tweet and say, "Well, it doesn't say he's missing the Tourney, so let's ignore the results without him..."?

brewcity77

I expect they'll announce he's back before the tourney.

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2024, 02:51:38 PM
I expect they'll announce he's back before the tourney.

This.

After our last game of the BET, whether Thu, Fri or Sat, they announce something like: "Tyler was held out of the Big East Tournament as a precaution and to let him finish healing. The Marquette medical staff expects Tyler to be a full participant in our NCAA Tournament games."
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bilsu

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2024, 02:21:28 PM
When I saw the announcement Kolek would be out until the BET, I honestly think that might be to encourage the Selection Committee to discount negative results without TKO. We are a solid 2-seed and even with a pair of Q1 losses should still be right in that mix. Every committee is different, so who knows if it will work, but I could see them ignoring our results, especially if we add at least one win this week and make the BET semis.

It might depend on whether they actually believe Kolek will play in NCAA tournament.
Look at how many games UW has lost recently, and they were still a 5 seed going into last weekend.

The worse I see MU being is a 3 seed. I think it is likely that more than one current 2 or 3 seed losses a game before the conference tournaments start.

GoldenEagles03

We could be headed for a 2nd round matchup with UW Madison.

They seem to be hovering around the 6/7 line for most while we are 2 bordering a 3.
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 05, 2024, 09:16:19 AM
We could be headed for a 2nd round matchup with UW Madison.

They seem to be hovering around the 6/7 line for most while we are 2 bordering a 3.

Doubtful that they would schedule a repeat of a regular season game if there are other options.
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 05, 2024, 09:16:19 AM
We could be headed for a 2nd round matchup with UW Madison.

They seem to be hovering around the 6/7 line for most while we are 2 bordering a 3.

Extremely unlikely.  They may end up a 6/7 and us a 2/3 but it would take a boatload of other conflicts for the committee to put two teams that played each other together  for a round of 32 game.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 05, 2024, 09:16:19 AM
We could be headed for a 2nd round matchup with UW Madison.

They seem to be hovering around the 6/7 line for most while we are 2 bordering a 3.

Lolwut
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If MU holds onto a 2 seed, it feels we're destined for the South.  The Baylor/Iowa State/Kansas group should produce the last 2 seed, but can't be in the same region as Houston.

But if MU slips to a 3 seed, I think there's a great chance to end up in the Midwest.  Not sure which scenario is more beneficial for MU.

DoctorV

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 05, 2024, 10:04:50 AM
If MU holds onto a 2 seed, it feels we're destined for the South.  The Baylor/Iowa State/Kansas group should produce the last 2 seed, but can't be in the same region as Houston.

But if MU slips to a 3 seed, I think there's a great chance to end up in the Midwest.  Not sure which scenario is more beneficial for MU.

Yup. Can't decide which I prefer either.

Indy and then Midwest (Detroit) for proximity purposes, Purdue as the 1.

Hopefully still Indy (getting dicier) and then Dallas with Houston as the 1.

I keep getting this feeling that Purdue and Painter are sort of destined for a FF this year, so my first thought is that the South would be better. Then I realize that Houston has a historically good defense and would probably be a terrible matchup for Marquette despite their at times offensive ineptitude.
Then I also remember that Marquette has already proven it can hang with and likely beat Purdue despite Edey...

Maybe we just need to get Al Amadou more ready.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: DoctorV on March 05, 2024, 10:13:48 AM
Maybe we just need to get Al Amadou more ready.

That must be it.  Shaka's been "hiding" him all season and will unleash when least expected  ;D

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