Putin

[Pakuni]

[Lennys Tap]

Guys, here we have a powerful world leader who would like nothing more than to see America eliminated from the face of the earth.

Guess what, Mike? There are a whole bunch of world leaders (many of them with nukes or on the verge of acquiring them) who would like nothing more than to see America eliminated from the face of the earth.

But why worry about them when the true existential threats - climate change and Republicans - are on the loose?

[The Sultan]

Guess what, Mike? There are a whole bunch of world leaders (many of them with nukes or on the verge of acquiring them) who would like nothing more than to see America eliminated from the face of the earth.

But why worry about them when the true existential threats - climate change and Republicans - are on the loose?

😂😂😂

[Pakuni]

Guess what, Mike? There are a whole bunch of world leaders (many of them with nukes or on the verge of acquiring them) who would like nothing more than to see America eliminated from the face of the earth.

No, there aren't.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Guess what, Mike? There are a whole bunch of world leaders (many of them with nukes or on the verge of acquiring them) who would like nothing more than to see America eliminated from the face of the earth.

But why worry about them when the true existential threats - climate change and Republicans - are on the loose?

Guess we can ask them to nuke the rest?

[Lennys Tap]

Guess we can ask them to nuke the rest?

Which image is the Republicans?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Which image is the Republicans?

[Lennys Tap]

I think my joke was funnier than yours.

[MU82]

Guess what, Mike? There are a whole bunch of world leaders (many of them with nukes or on the verge of acquiring them) who would like nothing more than to see America eliminated from the face of the earth.

No there aren't. We need to stop pretending that Putin is just another Idi Amin or something.

With his invasion of a European nation, Putin has spent 2 years now demonstrating that he is much more like Hitler. Except Putin's much more subtle about the way he participates in Jew-killing - which for some strange reason bothers some less than Harvard students' protests.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I think my joke was funnier than yours.

We all like the smell of our own farts the best (well I guess I shouldn't speak for others here)

[jesmu84]

Love when old-school scoop gets together in one thread

[4everwarriors]

No there aren't. We need to stop pretending that Putin is just another Idi Amin or something.

With his invasion of a European nation, Putin has spent 2 years now demonstrating that he is much more like Hitler. Except Putin's much more subtle about the way he participates in Jew-killing - which for some strange reason bothers some less than Harvard students' protests.

Yeah, but is Putin healthy, active, and robust, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

These pretzels are making me thirsty

[MU82]

Yeah, but is Putin healthy, active, and robust, hey?

You continue to back antisemites and those who support antisemites. It's really surprising, even for you.

And obviously, Putin is much worse than a Jew-killer.

[The Sultan]

You continue to back antisemites and those who support antisemites. It's really surprising, even for you.

And obviously, Putin is much worse than a Jew-killer.

It's not that surprising

[MU82]

From the NYT's "The Morning" e-newsletter ...

Large parts of the Republican Party now treat Vladimir Putin as if he were an ideological ally. Putin, by contrast, continues to treat the U.S. as an enemy.

This combination is clearly unusual and sometimes confusing. It does not appear to stem from any compromising information that Putin has about Donald Trump, despite years of such claims from Democrats. Instead, Trump and many other Republicans seem to feel ideological sympathies with Putin's version of right-wing authoritarian nationalism. They see the world dividing between a liberal left and an illiberal right, with both themselves and Putin — along with Viktor Orban of Hungary and some other world leaders — in the second category.

Whatever the explanation, the situation threatens decades of bipartisan consensus about U.S. national security.

Already, House Republicans have blocked further aid to Ukraine — a democracy and U.S. ally that Putin invaded. Without the aid, military experts say Russia will probably be able to take over more of Ukraine than it now holds.

If Trump wins a second term, he may go further. He has suggested that he might abandon the U.S. commitment to NATO, an alliance that exists to contain Russia and that Putin loathes. He recently invited Russia to "to do whatever the hell they want" to NATO countries that don't spend enough on their own defense. (Near the end of his first term, he tried to pull American troops out of Germany, but President Biden rescinded the decision.)

Trump has also avoided criticizing Putin for the mysterious death this month of his most prominent domestic critic, Aleksei Navalny, and has repeatedly praised Putin as a strong and smart leader. In a town hall last year, Trump refused to say whether he wanted Ukraine or Russia to win the war.

There are some caveats worth mentioning. Some skepticism about how much money the U.S. should send to Ukraine stems from practical questions about the war's endgame. It's also true that some prominent Republicans, especially in the Senate, are horrified by their party's pro-Russian drift and are lobbying the House to pass Ukraine aid. "If your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position," Senator Mitt Romney of Utah said last month.

But the Republican fascination with Putin and Russia is real. The Putin-friendly faction of the party is ascendant, while some of his biggest critics, like Mitch McConnell, who announced this week that he would step down this year as the Republican Senate leader, will soon retire.

The Senate has passed an additional $60 billion in aid to Ukraine, with both Republican and Democratic support. But the House, which Republicans control, has so far refused to pass that bill. House Speaker Mike Johnson, who is close to Trump, has not allowed a vote on the bill even though it would likely pass if he did.

A few Republicans have gone so far as speak about Ukraine and its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, in ways that mimic Russian propaganda. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has accused Ukraine of having "a Nazi army," echoing language Putin used to justify the invasion.

[4everwarriors]

You continue to back antisemites and those who support antisemites. It's really surprising, even for you.

And obviously, Putin is much worse than a Jew-killer.

Do you really believe the BOTUS gives a chit about Israel, its people and American Jews? Do you really believe a 2 state solution is possible in the Middle East? Its all about the votes as he tries to saddle the barbed wire fence. More accurately, its a 2 state delusion, aina?

[jficke13]

wat is botus?

[Uncle Rico]

Do you really believe the BOTUS gives a chit about Israel, its people and American Jews? Do you really believe a 2 state solution is possible in the Middle East? Its all about the votes as he tries to saddle the barbed wire fence. More accurately, its a 2 state delusion, aina?

He's just a pawn

[4everwarriors]

wat is botus?

Buffoon of the United States, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

wat is botus?

The evil genius that's both a buffoon and masterminding endless conspiracies.  It's remarkable, really. 

If it sounds like it is hard to keep straight, don't worry.  It's great fodder for those feeding the Fox News addled viewers

[4everwarriors]

Speakin' of pawns, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

Speakin' of pawns, hey?

People that read Mark Levin

[MU82]

Do you really believe the BOTUS gives a chit about Israel, its people and American Jews?

Unlike Dementia Don, Biden actually cares about people other than the one he sees in the mirror.

Anyhoo, stick to the topic. Why would you possibly have any positive feelings for Putin, who would happily kill you if given the opportunity? Why do you continue to back antisemites, as well as those who solicit support from and give support to antisemites?

[Hards Alumni]

Do you really believe the BOTUS gives a chit about Israel, its people and American Jews? Do you really believe a 2 state solution is possible in the Middle East? Its all about the votes as he tries to saddle the barbed wire fence. More accurately, its a 2 state delusion, aina?

Biden has been as outspoken of a supporter of Israel for the last 50 years as you're likely to find.

There's no reason to show everyone your ass here, doc.