Respect

[MurphysTillClose]

UConn is one of the top 5 basketball programs in the nation.  I'll listen to an argument they're the best program in the nation.

5 titles in 25 years with 3 different coaches.  Consistent success for a decade before winning it all in 1999.  UConn is what people think Indiana and UCLA should be but haven't sniffed in the same timeframe

reminds me of this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xokthY5zuPU

[wadesworld]

uconn has won natty's as you say, but does that make UConn a better 'program'? Asking...not arguing...
Is UConn a better program than Villanova? North Carolina? UCLA? Michigan St?...to name a few. Their practice facility is newer/bigger than ours. Is that a recruiting difference maker in your opinion? Does UConn have more $ than MU for recruiting, coaches salaries etc? Is the difference their HC vs ours and other conference foes? Maybe Hurley is the difference maker. (I think he's a great coach...and sidecourt personality). Maybe it's NIL? Probably is NIL! UConn is a better program than a DeP or current Gtown, but better than current Marquette?

UCONN has won national championships with 3 different coaches over the last 13 years.

If the definition of Blue Blood wasn't "were good in the 70s, 80s, and 90s," UCONN would be a blue blood.

You could argue that UCONN is currently the best program in all of college basketball.  Hurley is certainly a big part of that, but also certainly not the only part.

[MUbiz]

reminds me of this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xokthY5zuPU

Let's not forget UConn ran a $50M deficit in the athletic program for many years until recently. The deficit was ONLY $35M in 2023. The taxpayers of CT are big funders of the UConn athletic program. I wonder if that will ever change.

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn/article/huskies-ncaa-financial-report-18607929.php

[willie warrior]

Willie

MU has been ranked in the top ten for 90%+ the last twelve months and I think there are not many schools that match that record over the past year. Very few had higher hopes for the program than I did when Shaka was hired and he blew away any expectations I had for the first three years. For argument's sake, if this is as high as MU basketball can get on the national scene, I can live with this type of success. MU has played more meaningful games over the past two years than the previous decade combined and that is about all I could wish for.

We could both wish for better Big Dance performance and no 30 point losses to UConn. We should be expecting better out of MU. They have great facilities, great resources and a rich history. We should not be settling for poor performance and mediocre results in tournament time. There is no good reason why we should not be as good or better than UConn.

[MUbiz]

We could both wish for better Big Dance performance and no 30 point losses to UConn. We should be expecting better out of MU. They have great facilities, great resources and a rich history. We should not be settling for poor performance and mediocre results in tournament time. There is no good reason why we should not be as good or better than UConn.

100% agree.  Marquette makes more than Kentucky does revenue wise (both schools are top 10 in country).  MU also spends like a top 10 program. We should be expecting more than just "make the tournament" and be "competitive in the BE".

[MUbiz]

Revenue for top college teams: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball

[wadesworld]

Last year's 2nd round loss is the only disappointing thing about Shaka's 2.7 years.  His grade has been an A, and the only thing keeping it from an A+ is not getting to the second weekend last year.

The idea that we have had poor results the last 2 years is wild.  Heck, even year 1 for Shaka we performed very well.

[Shooter McGavin]

Revenue for top college teams: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball

That a pretty good source?

[StillAWarrior]

Revenue for top college teams: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball

Love the picture they have with No. 18.

That a pretty good source?

I don't know, but if the picture they have for No. 18 is any indication...  Not to mention No. 17.

[Uncle Rico]

We could both wish for better Big Dance performance and no 30 point losses to UConn. We should be expecting better out of MU. They have great facilities, great resources and a rich history. We should not be settling for poor performance and mediocre results in tournament time. There is no good reason why we should not be as good or better than UConn.

I blame the fans that are too afraid to hang their Warriors pennants in their living room and hide them in their basement

[MU82]

I blame the fans that are too afraid to hang their Warriors pennants in their living room and hide them in their basement

wampum is outraged that the basketball team he constantly criticizes isn't adequately representing the university he didn't attend.

[MUbiz]

That a pretty good source?

Here is a source stating MU made $20M revenue per year from 2017-2019. So 27M with the Shaka jump is not out of the question.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinasettimi/2020/03/19/college-basketball-most-valuable-teams-ncaa-march-madness/?sh=fa7a814285d0

My point is we are a top program revenue wise and spending wise and we should expect more. Just my 2 cents.

[Viper]

Absolutely. No question. Why would you think Marquette's is better?

And ultimately the results are what matters the most.

why? I was asking you. You didn't reply to my why. I get it that UConn has the rings. What if we had a few of those...that in of itself is the determination of superiority?

[Viper]

Revenue for top college teams: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball

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[The Sultan]

why? I was asking you. You didn't reply to my why. I get it that UConn has the rings. What if we had a few of those...that in of itself is the determination of superiority?

When they have had five national championships in the last 25 years, including last year, while our only one was 47 years ago, then yes...I would say that is pretty much the determination of superiority.

I mean its not like its close.

[Tyler COLEk]

I just was able to watch this one. My biggest takeaway: Donny Marshall is just brutal. How is he on the mic for such a big national broadcast?

[Viper]

When they have had five national championships in the last 25 years, including last year, while our only one was 47 years ago, then yes...I would say that is pretty much the determination of superiority.

I mean its not like its close.

...so 'wins' determines 'better program'? It's part of the equation, but not end all.

[HowardsWorld]

...so 'wins' determines 'better program'? It's part of the equation, but not end all.

I'm now dumber for having spent time in this thread today.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I just was able to watch this one. My biggest takeaway: Donny Marshall is just brutal. How is he on the mic for such a big national broadcast?

Maybe they knew it would turn out to be a dog of a game.

[Viper]

I'm now dumber for having spent time in this thread today.

Isn't it a legit question to ask whether wins determine a superior program? Or, is there more to it? UConn has more nats since '00 than UNC. UConn a better program? UConn has also been on thin ice re: infractions. UConn athletics carries heavy debt. Hence, if UConn is a superior basketball program, what are those other components that put them on top? I'm curious. If I was the AD at, say, Marquette, I'd definitely be curious.

[The Sultan]

Isn't it a legit question to ask whether wins determine a superior program? Or, is there more to it? UConn has more nats since '00 than UNC. UConn a better program? UConn has also been on thin ice re: infractions. UConn athletics carries heavy debt. Hence, if UConn is a superior basketball program, what are those other components that put them on top? I'm curious. If I was the AD at, say, Marquette, I'd definitely be curious.

I don't really care about minor NCAA infractions. And their heavy debt is internal to the university and almost completely revolves around the football team. It's also largely the function of being a public university.

The UNC comparison is much closer when it comes to championships (3 v.4 since 2000) so other factors may be at play, such as national reputation and the "Dean Dome." 

But it's not close in the case of Marquette. UConn is better.

[MU82]

Of course UConn is a basketball blue blood. Not sure what legit reasons anybody could give to the contrary.

And there are VERY few blue bloods any more - Kansas, UNC, Duke, UConn, probably Kentucky, maybe Michigan State.

UCLA, Indiana, Louisville and the other oldies that Boomers like me knew are yesterday's news. Villanova, which had entered the conversation under Wright, seems light years away now. Gonzaga? Sorry, you gotta win a couple titles to even be considered.