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Butler
« on: February 12, 2024, 03:15:39 PM »
Thad Matta has Butler relevant.
I expect a very confident Butler team.
Marquette will need their A-game coaching and player execution, but we can do it.

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Re: Butler
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2024, 03:20:51 PM »
Let’s hope for law of averages to kick in.

If we get 18 uncontested 3s again. And bury 9 of them instead of a goose egg. It’ll be a fun time.

Hinkle is gonna be jacked tho. And I’m guessing Dee Davis will have a much better game than in Milwaukee
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Re: Butler
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2024, 03:21:56 PM »
Thad Matta has Butler relevant.
I expect a very confident Butler team.
Marquette will need their A-game coaching and player execution, but we can do it.

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Re: Butler
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2024, 03:37:45 PM »
Let’s hope for law of averages to kick in.

If we get 18 uncontested 3s again. And bury 9 of them instead of a goose egg. It’ll be a fun time.

Hinkle is gonna be jacked tho. And I’m guessing Dee Davis will have a much better game than in Milwaukee

I'm expecting Tyler Kolek will also have a much better game than in Milwaukee ;)
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Re: Butler
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2024, 03:38:46 PM »
I fully expect MU to be ready to go and take care of business. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2024, 03:40:22 PM »
I'm expecting Tyler Kolek will also have a much better game than in Milwaukee ;)

Yup.

I’m hoping a jacked up Butler crowd, commits the cardinal sin of BE basketball. Chirping the best player in the league.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2024, 03:45:02 PM »
Tickets are shockingly cheap. Wonder if the casual crowd left when they were struggling and never came back or if it's just a weekday thing?
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2024, 04:03:11 PM »
Tickets are shockingly cheap. Wonder if the casual crowd left when they were struggling and never came back or if it's just a weekday thing?

Their crowds have been good and pretty rowdy. Definitely a different energy than last year. I was able to get a couple 4th row seats near Butler's bench for $66 with fees over the weekend. There are a lot of high priced tickets, but some good deals can be found.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2024, 04:26:31 PM »
I really think Butler is one of the bottom 4 teams in the conference. I don't believe in them
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2024, 04:33:24 PM »
I really think Butler is one of the bottom 4 teams in the conference. I don't believe in them

Is this an eye test or what? Because their net and Kenpom aren't bad.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2024, 04:38:37 PM »
I really think Butler is one of the bottom 4 teams in the conference. I don't believe in them

No way. They are physical, strong, have guys that can score and some strong defenders. We are capable of beating them handily, but I sure wouldn't expect it to be easy. It will be a dog fight. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2024, 04:46:56 PM »
If MU is as good as I think they are, Butler game should and better be, a win tomorrow night. This is crunch time and you need to beat teams that you are better than and MU is a much better team. Bumps in the road happen, but they should not happen in mid-February with a very experienced team. I do not think Butler is sitting there thinking that they have MU's number, especially after the last seven games.

If MU had not looked like a mid major team when they played a month ago, I do not think there would be a high level of concern going into the game tomorrow by most MU fans. I do think many MU fans, mostly casual to moderate fans, still do not fully believe that MU is a top five team in the country this year. To be honest, anyone that takes the last Butler game as anything more than a horrible performance by MU, is not a serious fan of college basketball, imo.

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2024, 04:48:23 PM »
Did I see MU is -6 tomorrow?
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2024, 05:02:50 PM »
If MU is as good as I think they are, Butler game should and better be, a win tomorrow night. This is crunch time and you need to beat teams that you are better than and MU is a much better team. Bumps in the road happen, but they should not happen in mid-February with a very experienced team. I do not think Butler is sitting there thinking that they have MU's number, especially after the last seven games.

If MU had not looked like a mid major team when they played a month ago, I do not think there would be a high level of concern going into the game tomorrow by most MU fans. I do think many MU fans, mostly casual to moderate fans, still do not fully believe that MU is a top five team in the country this year. To be honest, anyone that takes the last Butler game as anything more than a horrible performance by MU, is not a serious fan of college basketball, imo.

Goose, I agree that MU should take care of business. MU is a vastly different team over the last seven games. A big part of that is that shots have started falling. Butler is a legit team with some strong pieces, and they have some strong bodies. They will try to muck things up. As long as MU is focused and ready to go, which they should be after the poor showing v. Butler at home, MU should win by 6 to 10 points. They will have to earn it, however, because Butler is a confident and scrappy team.

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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2024, 05:17:12 PM »
I have this as a loss.  I am very excited for the game thread
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2024, 05:34:08 PM »
I watched the bulldogs recently beat Creighton at Creighton.  They played a great game and must be taken seriously.  I’m f we’re on our game we will prevail.

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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2024, 05:58:57 PM »
Did I see MU is -6 tomorrow?

I’ve seen minus 3

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2024, 07:05:13 PM »
Is this an eye test or what? Because their net and Kenpom aren't bad.

Mostly eye test but Andrei posted some numbers earlier today that support it

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65729.0

9th best in KenPom only looking at conference play. Their best wins also featured an attrocious shooting performance from us and an otherworldly midrange performance against Creighton. Neither are likely to be sustainable
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2024, 11:04:35 PM »
Game opened at 2.5 and its up to 4.5 now
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2024, 06:33:01 AM »
I really think Butler is one of the bottom 4 teams in the conference. I don't believe in them

You know a heck of a lot more than me. However, I’ve seen them play several times recently and I think they are decent to good. Plus their place is tough.  I hope Shaka and the guys are not as confident as this board.  I think this is going to be a very tough game.

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2024, 06:52:22 AM »
This is an important game that will go a long way to locking us into a 2 seed or better. Absolutely no reason we shouldn't win - we're a better team, with better players and a better coach. If two of our big three show up I think we win walking away. But we have to come ready to play.






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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2024, 07:24:39 AM »
Beautiful morning unfolding in downtown  Indianapolis on day 3 of a roadtrip from Milwaukee. Indy is a 3:00 am town,  so hoping my hotel's free breakfast provides a cure for being a little overserved last night.

Purdue seems to be drawing most of the college basketball attention around here but I'm sure Hinkle will be full and loud tonight.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2024, 07:31:43 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2024, 07:37:27 AM »
MU needs to win tonight to stay
 “ locked in “ as a 2 seed.   And … let’s not go into UCONN coming off of an L

But … it will be a very tough game

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2024, 07:38:51 AM »
Mostly eye test but Andrei posted some numbers earlier today that support it

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65729.0

9th best in KenPom only looking at conference play. Their best wins also featured an attrocious shooting performance from us and an otherworldly midrange performance against Creighton. Neither are likely to be sustainable

In conference, they do not defend. I mean, if we make just a few of our open threes and bunnies at the rim, we win that game in Milwaukee comfortably and are eyeing up command of first place with two wins this week. They got wildly fortunate to beat 'Nova, Creighton, and Providence, all of which were effectively single possession games.

Right now, they are a tourney team because they have the results, but Butler is a team with a horseshoe planted firmly up their asses. Hopefully Tyler is up for another Kolekoscopy tonight to remove it.
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