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When should MU give Shaka a Lifetime Contract Extension?

Now! I'm a shakaholic.
59 (29.6%)
After he shows us what he can do with TK and Oso gone - 5 years to judge
33 (16.6%)
When we cut down the big nets.
18 (9%)
After multiple FF or better seasons.
22 (11.1%)
When MU achieves bona fide Blue Blood status.
14 (7%)
Never
53 (26.6%)

Total Members Voted: 199

tower912

I miss him.   Always good for a belly laugh.
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1SE

The -"now, Shakaholic" option was pretty much just to give the full range, but I'm wondering about the "neverers" - if we succeed in becoming a blue blood (however you define it) don't you want/he deserves a lifetime contract?

And I know they don't mean anything at the end of the day, but they must mean enough to K and Self and Calipari for them to be a thing - three programs whose success I wouldn't mind having (but the "Shaka-way).


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Viper

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 09, 2024, 08:15:34 AM
I don't even think Bucky Badger is as obsessed with UW as much as you are.
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Scoop Snoop

#28
Quote from: 1SE on February 09, 2024, 11:52:39 AM
The -"now, Shakaholic" option was pretty much just to give the full range, but I'm wondering about the "neverers" - if we succeed in becoming a blue blood (however you define it) don't you want/he deserves a lifetime contract?

And I know they don't mean anything at the end of the day, but they must mean enough to K and Self and Calipari for them to be a thing - three programs whose success I wouldn't mind having (but the "Shaka-way).

I think if not all, almost all coaches have very healthy egos, but Shaka's easily fits into the Al and probably a decent sized room as well. Calipari and K? Theirs won't fit into the largest FB stadiums. As I wrote in my earlier post, my guess is that there are a number of things more important to Shaka, and some of those have nothing to do with basketball.

I guess what I am asking is " Does a lifetime contract mean much to Shaka?" I think not.
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Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 09, 2024, 08:56:18 AM
There was wisdom behind it. Get though an entire recruiting cycle,  make sure a coach can win with their own players not just the last coach's players. Things are different now. Slick Rick chased off all but one Johnnie and completely replaced the roster in a single offseason. Insta transfers means you can rebuild a lot quicker

Maybe and sometimes sure. My guess is the more important factor was it fit the narrative of the day.

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Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 09, 2024, 01:41:46 PM
Maybe and sometimes sure. My guess is the more important factor was it fit the narrative of the day.

Bingo.

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 09, 2024, 06:24:26 AM
In general, lifetime contracts aren't great for either party.

Or for fans. Honeymooned end.

MU82

Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 09, 2024, 11:45:53 AM
NolongerWarriors is on Line 1...

He doesn't count ... and, sadly, he wasn't the only one who called for Shaka's job after Year 1.
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GoFastAndWin

Hypothetical. And frankly, quite likely one>>>

After leading Marquette to the Sweet Sixteen, with their eyes set on a Final Four......

Shaka Smart is being mentioned as a successor to the recently fired John Calipari at Kentucky and Mike Woodson at Indiana.

If I'm anyone who is anyone at Marquette, I'm drawing something up as we speak. If only to quiet the carousel speculation, which can be a serious distraction for any team, let alone one capable of winning an NCAA title.

I really really hope Shaka is very happy here.


BCHoopster

Building a new house in Fox Point, l can not say forever, but he has a sweet deal here!  Who wants the pressure at both of those schools, he is the main man here with no football!

mug644

Quote from: GoFastAndWin on February 10, 2024, 08:59:42 PM
Hypothetical. And frankly, quite likely one>>>

After leading Marquette to the Sweet Sixteen, with their eyes set on a Final Four......

Shaka Smart is being mentioned as a successor to the recently fired John Calipari at Kentucky and Mike Woodson at Indiana.

If I'm anyone who is anyone at Marquette, I'm drawing something up as we speak. If only to quiet the carousel speculation, which can be a serious distraction for any team, let alone one capable of winning an NCAA title.

I really really hope Shaka is very happy here.

I totally agree that if Kentucky and/or Indiana have vacancies, they could reach out to Shaka. I also am not naive enough to think that Shaka is already committed to stay at MU for the rest of his career.

At the same time, I believe that Shaka's Texas experience is still fresh in his mind. He was attacked endlessly, even by a fan base more focused on football. My gut says he realizes that entering the hellscape of a blueblood like UK or IU is not what he wants.

Goose

GoFast

Shaka had delivered at the highest level and I appreciate every game he has coached at MU. If he decides to go elsewhere I am good with that. He proved that MU is a fxxkin basketball school and can compete at the highest level nationally.

I am not going to spend one second worrying about his tenure at MU. I am going to enjoy watching the best basketball that I have seen since I was in grade school.


GoFastAndWin


Its DJOver

Lifetime contracts are stupid. Am I seeing this right that Cal has a 33 mil buy-out?
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

1SE

Shaka so good. When the time comes are we going to be able to pay him the $8-9 million that he'll deserve?
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: 1SE on December 03, 2024, 04:40:45 AMShaka so good. When the time comes are we going to be able to pay him the $8-9 million that he'll deserve?

Yes. See NIL Thread. Marquette has a top 15 budget in the country.
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The Sultan

#41
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 03, 2024, 07:06:09 AMYes. See NIL Thread. Marquette has a top 15 budget in the country.

<sigh>

That budget includes the rent we pay for Fiserv. Its not an apples to apples comparison to other schools around the country. Yes, we have very nice budget for a private, non-football school. But we really need to stop throwing this budget figure around like its gospel.

Regardless, there is no need for a lifetime contract. Just keep extending him. If Shaka wants to leave, he will leave.
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Goose

I'll say it again this year, if Shaka were to leave, he would get a big thank you from me and a long standing ovation. He proved MU can play at a high level nationally and owes this fan nothing beyond that.

Hopefully he is here for the long haul and continues to build the program in the manner he and the school envisions. Nothing is forever, especially in sports, and I would never fault Shaka for chasing his dreams. IMO, he has exceeded my extremely high expectations when he was hired and I very much enjoy the product he has put on the court.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2024, 08:36:01 AMI'll say it again this year, if Shaka were to leave, he would get a big thank you from me and a long standing ovation. He proved MU can play at a high level nationally and owes this fan nothing beyond that.

Hopefully he is here for the long haul and continues to build the program in the manner he and the school envisions. Nothing is forever, especially in sports, and I would never fault Shaka for chasing his dreams. IMO, he has exceeded my extremely high expectations when he was hired and I very much enjoy the product he has put on the court.


Well said Goose. But I think it will be a while before that day comes. Shaka is the real deal, says what he means and means what he days. I think he's enjoying the ride even more than you and me as well as many other scoopers, as difficult as that may be to believe.
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Snoop

He sure has provided an excited journey thus far. Beat UW on Saturday and that box is checked and then hopefully a long ride in the spring. That said, while I want to win in April, it is amazing the excitement created for games throughout the season. If someone would have told me there would be 100's of MU fans and Goolsby's watching a game at 10am in November I would not have believed it.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 09, 2024, 06:24:26 AMIn general, lifetime contracts aren't great for either party.

This. Buzz's automatic, annual 5-year rolling contact with a minuscule buyout wasn't the best decision MU has ever made.
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cheebs09

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 03, 2024, 08:57:27 AMThis. Buzz's automatic, annual 5-year rolling contact with a minuscule buyout wasn't the best decision MU has ever made.

Really? I think the contract worked fine. I think each party got what they wanted when he left. I'm not sure, but I feel like huge buyouts sound great, until you get in a Wojo situation.

Jay Bee

Details of contracts are what matters.

Marriage is a "lifetime contract", aina?

Hopefully all parties remain happy and we continue to win every day.
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Tyler COLEk

The best indication for Shaka's longevity at Marquette is this freshman class and the incoming 2025 class. The near future for MUBB is exceedingly bright. Coaches don't generally leave when their teams project as perennial national contenders.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on December 03, 2024, 04:18:46 PMCoaches don't generally leave when their teams project as perennial national contenders.

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