Jop harnessing his handles

[MuggsyB]

I think he's fine when he takes one or two dribbles closer to the rim.  It's the Melojoplin stuff that can cause some anxiety for a lot of us.  I'm not saying it's easy but I would think Shaka has discussed this with the young man?

[withoutbias]

Bruv. You don't need to start a thread for every thought that pops into your head.

Having said that, what do you trust more? Air Bud's handle or Jop's?

Personally making people think Air Bud is something a golden retriever could what Air Bud can is offensive to golden retrievers. They're beautiful and truly smart animals. Giving kids the belief we can do that with them should be criminal.

[Goose]

Muggsy

What's your take on that interesting reply from bias? I have to be honest, he does not bring a lot to scoop. Thoughts?

[MUUWUWM]

unfortunately, jop dribbling into the middle is still more often than not a turnover.

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy

What's your take on that interesting reply from bias? I have to be honest, he does not bring a lot to scoop. Thoughts?

I have no real issue here.  Some people get annoyed when I start new threads. 

[mugrad_89]

I have no real issue here.  Some people get annoyed when I start new threads.

It's a message board - post away MuggsyB!

[Daniel]

It's a message board - post away MuggsyB!

Post what you want to Muggsy!  Everyone can choose for themselves to read it or not... so

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Bruv. You don't need to start a thread for every thought that pops into your head.

Having said that, what do you trust more? Air Bud's handle or Jop's?

Personally making people think Air Bud is something a golden retriever could what Air Bud can is offensive to golden retrievers. They're beautiful and truly smart animals. Giving kids the belief we can do that with them should be criminal.

You suck.

[MuMark]

I'd like it if he harnessed his free throw stroke that he had last season........he hardly ever gets to the line but down the stretch.....in close games.....it would help if he made most of them.

[CountryRoads]

I think he's fine when he takes one or two dribbles closer to the rim.  It's the Melojoplin stuff that can cause some anxiety for a lot of us.  I'm not saying it's easy but I would think Shaka has discussed this with the young man?

Wish they'd let jop shoot the 12-15 footer when he puts the ball on the floor from the perimeter. He gets in trouble when he tries to get all the way to rim.

[MuggsyB]

I'd like it if he harnessed his free throw stroke that he had last season........he hardly ever gets to the line but down the stretch.....in close games.....it would help if he made most of them.

He did get that huge d reb though. 

[GoldenEagles03]

Wish they'd let jop shoot the 12-15 footer when he puts the ball on the floor from the perimeter. He gets in trouble when he tries to get all the way to rim.

He's actually a pretty good passer from the post, the problem is he rarely does it.  Had a really nice pass from down now tonight.

I think he could really expand on the backdown inside-out passes. Would add a nice little element to the offense as right now defense expect him to shoot everytime he touches the rock.

[MuggsyB]

He's actually a pretty good passer from the post, the problem is he rarely does it.  Had a really nice pass from down now tonight.

I think he could really expand on the backdown inside-out passes. Would add a nice little element to the offense as right now defense expect him to shoot everytime he touches the rock.

Great point. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Wish they'd let jop shoot the 12-15 footer when he puts the ball on the floor from the perimeter. He gets in trouble when he tries to get all the way to rim.

Yep

[DoctorV]

He also had a massive block on an attempted 3, nice play

[MuggsyB]

He also had a massive block on an attempted 3, nice play

Is 2 dribbles what you're thinking with Jop Dr.V? 

[DoctorV]

Is 2 dribbles what you're thinking with Jop Dr.V?

Muggsy I'm in the minority here in a sense that I don't particularly mind if Jop tries to create, and I'm not sure why tbh.

He's not great at it, he's much better at being a spot up shooter, but I think this team needs him inside doing some dirty work.
It would be better if he would drive and kick much more than drive and force a shot, but that's not an easy skill to learn.

I think the best result is to drive to score, pick up dribble and pass out as first sign of trouble with an immediate pass back into the post to let him do work and try to score.

That way he's still engaged, still going inside and down low, and doesn't start to feel bad about doing anything other than shooting Js.

Last thing we need is Jop standing at the 3P line and doing nothing all game like Coleman Hawkins from Illinois.
This team isn't big enough for that.

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy I'm in the minority here in a sense that I don't particularly mind if Jop tries to create, and I'm not sure why tbh.

He's not great at it, he's much better at being a spot up shooter, but I think this team needs him inside doing some dirty work.
It would be better if he would drive and kick much more than drive and force a shot, but that's not an easy skill to learn.

I think the best result is to drive to score, pick up dribble and pass out as first sign of trouble with an immediate pass back into the post to let him do work and try to score.

That way he's still engaged, still going inside and down low, and doesn't start to feel bad about doing anything other than shooting Js.

Last thing we need is Jop standing at the 3P line and doing nothing all game like Coleman Hawkins from Illinois.
This team isn't big enough for that.

Interesting.  I just think sometimes he overdribbles in lieu of moving the rock.  That said he is more valuable if he can diversify his offense and make a few at rim, midrange, or ft line. 

[DoctorV]

Interesting.  I just think sometimes he overdribbles in lieu of moving the rock.  That said he is more valuable if he can diversify his offense and make a few at rim, midrange, or ft line.

Yea for sure. He's one of the few on the team that overdribbles, Sean being another, and doesn't have a great "feel" for the game and passing like several of his teammates.

He's got a great feel for scoring though- he's shown the ability to do it inside and out.
Problem is, to do it inside he's putting in so much effort and he's dribbling way too much amongst the trees.

In order to get better at that and finishing around the hoop he needs more in game experience, and I'd rather he gets that now and becomes a scoring threat inside and out than settles outside the line to chuck 3s.

It'll matter a lot next year when he gets a massive share of offensive opportunities.
If he figures out ways to score in and around the paint rather than simply setting for jumpers all game he can become a next level, leads the team and top 5 in the BE type scorer

[MuggsyB]

Yea for sure. He's one of the few on the team that overdribbles, Sean being another, and doesn't have a great "feel" for the game and passing like several of his teammates.

He's got a great feel for scoring though- he's shown the ability to do it inside and out.
Problem is, to do it inside he's putting in so much effort and he's dribbling way too much amongst the trees.

In order to get better at that and finishing around the hoop he needs more in game experience, and I'd rather he gets that now and becomes a scoring threat inside and out than settles outside the line to chuck 3s.

It'll matter a lot next year when he gets a massive share of offensive opportunities.
If he figures out ways to score in and around the paint rather than simply setting for jumpers all game he can become a next level, leads the team and top 5 in the BE type scorer

Fair points.  I actually think he gets into trouble when he attacks from the 3pt line but is okay 15 feet and in. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

11.5% turnover rate is nationally ranked (good). Only Kam and Stevie turn the ball over less.

[DoctorV]

Fair points.  I actually think he gets into trouble when he attacks from the 3pt line but is okay 15 feet and in.

Agreed.
That's why I think it's incumbent on Shaka to tell him that when he drives to score to pass out to an open guy immediately at the first sign of trouble, then instantly get into better position for an entry pass and a restart to a scoring drive closer to the hoop

[Lennys Tap]

Wish they'd let jop shoot the 12-15 footer when he puts the ball on the floor from the perimeter. He gets in trouble when he tries to get all the way to rim.

Mid range shots are not allowed by Shaka.

[Lennys Tap]

Personally making people think Air Bud is something a golden retriever could what Air Bud can is offensive to golden retrievers.

???

[Lennys Tap]

He did get that huge d reb though.

That was a big boy clutch rebound.