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Tyler COLEk

No doubt NBA scouts are salivating at Oso's skills and potential on D. But even with a high-end defensive projection, you can't make it to the NBA without an offensive profile. Facilitation and passing are very important to Oso's draft stock.

Judge Smails

How fortunate are we to have so many strong candidates for SOTG

WellsstreetWanderer

Quote from: Judge Smails on January 27, 2024, 07:18:52 PM
How fortunate are we to have so many strong candidates for SOTG

Good point.  This team is exciting to watch

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Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 27, 2024, 07:09:38 PM
No doubt NBA scouts are salivating at Oso's skills and potential on D. But even with a high-end defensive projection, you can't make it to the NBA without an offensive profile. Facilitation and passing are very important to Oso's draft stock.

Another key part of Oso's offensive profile is his elite ability as a roll man.  He's lethal at slipping screens and getting to the rim for dunks.

Teams have adjusted this year to take that away more than they did last year.  But Oso's added an elite floater game, shooting ~65% on high volume.

I'd love it if Oso somehow slipped to the Bucks at 28, but think he goes higher.

GoldenEagles03

VIOLENCE!

mileskishnish72

You've gotta love a STOG thread where TyKo had what, 11 dimes, and he hasn't been mentioned.

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mu_eyeballs

I vote Stevie...obviously great D but Tyler and Kam combine for 7 hus 13 are Huge!!

Spotcheck Billy

I love having so many options for selecting SOTG.
Make mine Oso.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 27, 2024, 07:09:38 PM
No doubt NBA scouts are salivating at Oso's skills and potential on D. But even with a high-end defensive projection, you can't make it to the NBA without an offensive profile. Facilitation and passing are very important to Oso's draft stock.
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Quote from: Newsdreams on January 28, 2024, 10:08:10 AM
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Butler has developed a ton since being here, but he had an offensive profile. Always over 50% inside the arc and career 38% shooter from deep. His defense was the most appealing part, but the tools were there to be a contributing NBA player. Obviously no one saw him becoming this, but I think there was a belief he could play at that level.

Newsdreams

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2024, 10:33:13 AM
Butler has developed a ton since being here, but he had an offensive profile. Always over 50% inside the arc and career 38% shooter from deep. His defense was the most appealing part, but the tools were there to be a contributing NBA player. Obviously no one saw him becoming this, but I think there was a belief he could play at that level.
Yes, Oso inside paint>>> JFB? But Butler was mainly drafted for his D, had he not had that way above average skill probably wouldn't have made it as final 1st round pick. Oso is as versatile on D as JFB was and I believe any good NBA scout would think he can develop a decent jumper.
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Quote from: Newsdreams on January 28, 2024, 10:42:59 AM
Yes, Oso inside paint>>> JFB? But Butler was mainly drafted for his D, had he not had that way above average skill probably wouldn't have made it as final 1st round pick. Oso is as versatile on D as JFB was and I believe any good NBA scout would think he can develop a decent jumper.

Jimmy's 2010 season was one of the best offensive seasons this century from a Marquette player.  Took a slight step back his last year but teams that understood his offensive profile knew he was pretty damn good offensive player
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Quote from: Its DJOver on January 27, 2024, 03:58:54 PM
I really want to say Stevie, his defense was that good, but it's Oso.

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Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2024, 10:50:34 AM
Jimmy's 2010 season was one of the best offensive seasons this century from a Marquette player.  Took a slight step back his last year but teams that understood his offensive profile knew he was pretty damn good offensive player
Understand, but I remember all draft "experts" saying what teams were really focusing was mainly his D skills. Maybe I'm wrong but my belief at this point is that Oso's skills at both ends look much more polished. Oso's only weakness is no outside jump shot, but he can blow by defenders with his handles. But as I said I could be wrong.
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DoctorV

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2024, 10:50:34 AM
Jimmy's 2010 season was one of the best offensive seasons this century from a Marquette player.  Took a slight step back his last year but teams that understood his offensive profile knew he was pretty damn good offensive player

Jimmy was probably the best Marquette player I've ever seen at getting and ones around the hoop, often times off offensive boards.

His ability to battle inside and position his body to finish really stood out from the jump at MU.

Another guy that had hall of fame body positioning and ability to finish in multiple creative ways was #3.

MU82

Oso is already projecting higher in mock drafts I've seen the last month-plus than Jimmy ever did. It was considered a surprise when the Bulls took him with the last pick of the first round.

That said, I do believe that although Jimmy was drafted primarily for his defensive ability, he did have an "offensive profile." He made multiple game-winning jumpers while at Marquette. Being willing to take that shot and being able to make that shot says something to NBA scouts.
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Quote from: DoctorV on January 28, 2024, 12:47:55 PM
Jimmy was probably the best Marquette player I've ever seen at getting and ones around the hoop, often times off offensive boards.

His ability to battle inside and position his body to finish really stood out from the jump at MU.

Another guy that had hall of fame body positioning and ability to finish in multiple creative ways was #3.

Incredible basketball IQ and vision.  Different player than Oso but some things in common
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Tyler COLEk

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Yes he was a defense-first prospect, but Jimmy's scoring ability was undoubtedly rated higher by NBA scouts than Oso's now. Despite their very different prospect profiles, I'd guess projections of overall offensive value at the pro level are somewhat similar for both. Of course we know how those projections for Jimmy ended up.

I don't agree that NBA scouts would assume Oso can develop a serviceable jumper. If they did, he's be an obvious top 10 pick, perhaps near the very top of the draft.

To be clear, I love Oso's game and am bullish on his potential as a pro. It's been exciting recently to see him drive to the hoop more often. I think if he flashes that skill more often in big games the rest of this season, he will make it into the lottery.

barfolomew

I am here only to correct the shameful lack of love given to Ben's block and behind the head save to start the Jop run out.
Amazing what a little confidence can do for a kid.

That said, Steve Lappas and I agree that SOTG was Isogordo.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: barfolomew on January 29, 2024, 07:52:38 AM
That said, Steve Lappas and I agree that SOTG was Isogordo.

Well then, El Gordo it is!

tower912

Quote from: barfolomew on January 29, 2024, 07:52:38 AM
I am here only to correct the shameful lack of love given to Ben's block and behind the head save to start the Jop run out.
Amazing what a little confidence can do for a kid.

That said, Steve Lappas and I agree that SOTG was Isogordo.
It was a great play.   The kid is coming on.
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Quote from: barfolomew on January 29, 2024, 07:52:38 AM
I am here only to correct the shameful lack of love given to Ben's block and behind the head save to start the Jop run out.
Amazing what a little confidence can do for a kid.

That said, Steve Lappas and I agree that SOTG was Isogordo.

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Newsdreams

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 29, 2024, 08:09:24 AM
Well then, El Gordo it is!
Too bad he is out of shape, fire Todd!
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