Freshmen

[Don_Kojis]

You read or hear about some freshmen playing real well.  Our freshmen really don't add anything .  They seem like they don't know how to pass or shoot.

[Newsdreams]

You read or hear about some freshmen playing real well.  Our freshmen really don't add anything .  They seem like they don't know how to pass or shoot.

Because Shaka is an idiot and can't recruit

[BCHoopster]

Because Shaka is an idiot and can't recruit

Maybe Shaka's philosophy might be right years ago, but when kids play hundreds of games before they get to college, they should be ready as freshman. The 3 this year are totally disappointing, the air ball from Zaide was ridiculous today, I was hoping they would be more like Blackwell at Wisky. Amadeau do not get at all, what did Shaka see in him?  I hope Hamilton will give them something next year.

[Newsdreams]

Maybe Shaka's philosophy might be right years ago, but when kids play hundreds of games before they get to college, they should be ready as freshman. The 3 this year are totally disappointing, the air ball from Zaide was ridiculous today, I was hoping they would be more like Blackwell at Wisky. Amadeau do not get at all, what did Shaka see in him?  I hope Hamilton will give them something next year.

LOL no idea have you? (Yoda)

[CountryRoads]

Feel Al may have a short stay at MU. He's essentially walk on status. Not sure that changes next year with three bigger guys coming in.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Lot of dumb in this thread. 

[MUfan12]

Lot of dumb in this thread.

Not just this thread.

Maybe being down by the floor gave me a different perspective but they hit some ridiculously tough shots just to stay within 10-18 points of Marquette.

Yeah there were some bad turnovers. The freshmen had a freshman game. crap happens.

[tower912]

It is an annual thing.  Other than last season when there were no other options.

Oh, my God!   (Freshman/freshmen) suck!  The program is doomed!  The coach is incompetent!   Except Joey!   He got 29 minutes a game!   Only thing Wojo ever did right !

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Hards Alumni]

Lot of dumb in this thread.

[FairWeatherEagle]

Lot of arrogant condescension in this thread too.

[tower912]

When I was young and knew everything
She a punk who rarely ever took advice

[Farley36]

Lot of dumb in this thread.

Stop calling yourself out like that.  For a poster who has never once added anything substantive to discussion, you sure like to call out others.  All you ever add is immature name calling.  You're too dumb to try and dispute anything said so, like all immature children, you call someone names.  I love how you continue to expose yourself.

[Uncle Rico]

Lot of arrogant condescension in this thread too.

No, mostly dumb

[BLWarrior91]

Take a look at Al's stats and compare them to Oso's freshman stats.  Plus Oso's freshman team wasn't close to being ranked.

[The Sultan]

Amadou is still a really inexperienced player. That was a project that was always going to take awhile.

Zaide is going to be fine. He struggled yesterday because freshmen aren't consistent. But he will be a solid player here starting next year.

Tre I am concerned about. I know Shaka is big on him and reportedly came in the most ready, but he looks overwhelmed out there. Getting some Symir vibes with him.

[MUfan12]

Tre I am concerned about. I know Shaka is big on him and reportedly came in the most ready, but he looks overwhelmed out there. Getting some Symir vibes with him.

This is the one reason I'd be upset about not blowing them out last night. I would have loved to see him play more than 11 mins.

It's really hard to get in any sort of flow when playing a couple minutes at a time. Chase got to play with basically any lineup, so he would stay out there more last year. Most of Tre's minutes are next to TK, so he doesn't get many touches or much action. Important that he stays locked in on the other end, though.

[Goose]

Sultan

I agree with your takes on the freshmen thus far. While I was expecting more from Norman, I have not seen enough yet to make a real judgement. Like I mentioned in another post, it is hard for me grade guys when they are getting very reduced roles because of much better, experienced players ahead of them. Plus, I read posts on a regular basis that are grading TK basically on a per possession rate. There are some harsh critics on scoop and I am giving the young guys another year before making judgement. I have no idea how good they would be if they were forced to be major contributors and thus far that has not happened.

[The Sultan]

Oh I am certainly not writing off Tre by any means. I have learned a long time ago not to make definitive statements about freshmen. I am simply concerned because he just hasn't matched what people were saying about him when the season started.

[UWW2MU]

In Duke's loss to Pitt, everyone kept talking about how you had to excuse the game because they had a couple starters out and their (5* and high 4*) younger players weren't ready to step up.  Meanwhile, our freshmen, who are still quality but not touted like Duke's, who get a scant few minutes of irregular actual playing time and don't come in to be immediate impact players, have up and down games and suddenly the world is ending. 

Trolls are gonna troll though.

[TallTitan34]

You read or hear about some freshmen playing real well.  Our freshmen really don't add anything .  They seem like they don't know how to pass or shoot.

Really hope you are doing a bit.  But I don't think you are.

[brewcity77]

You read or hear about some freshmen playing real well.  Our freshmen really don't add anything .  They seem like they don't know how to pass or shoot.

It's nice that you decided to watch your first Marquette game since January 6.

[Jay Bee]

Need Wojo's help

[LloydsLegs]

At every timeout when one of the freshman had been in the game, before huddle time, Shaka pulled aside Zaide or Tre and had a teaching moment.  Always. Be. Coaching.  There was a fair amount of frustration from the upper classmen, Oso in particular, with mental errors they were making-mostly not being in the right place at the right time sort of stuff.

[Elonsmusk]

Amadou is still a really inexperienced player. That was a project that was always going to take awhile.

Zaide is going to be fine. He struggled yesterday because freshmen aren't consistent. But he will be a solid player here starting next year.

Tre I am concerned about. I know Shaka is big on him and reportedly came in the most ready, but he looks overwhelmed out there. Getting some Symir vibes with him.

I agree with this analysis.  I also feel Al Amadou has a bright future at MU.  To your point, Al didn't start focusing on basketball until 8th grade as I recall.  He was an ascending player.  His length and athleticism aren't teachable, and he's got nice form on his jumper.  I can see him evolving into an O-Max type of player by the time he's a senior (possibly with a redshirt year included). 

I do have similar concerns about Tre, but he's at least got the physicality for the Big East.  However, I also agree with this too:

This is the one reason I'd be upset about not blowing them out last night. I would have loved to see him play more than 11 mins.

It's really hard to get in any sort of flow when playing a couple minutes at a time. Chase got to play with basically any lineup, so he would stay out there more last year. Most of Tre's minutes are next to TK, so he doesn't get many touches or much action. Important that he stays locked in on the other end, though.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Stop calling yourself out like that.  For a poster who has never once added anything substantive to discussion, you sure like to call out others.  All you ever add is immature name calling.  You're too dumb to try and dispute anything said so, like all immature children, you call someone names.  I love how you continue to expose yourself.

Thread just got even dumber.  Thanks for your contribution.  Rent-free.

"Our freshman don't really add anything".  Absolutely false.  See Zaide's contributions during the Villanova game.  Sure, the consistent production isn't there yet but with a team returning so many rotation players that's ok. 

"When kids play hundreds of games before they get to college, they should be ready as freshman".  Do I really need to say more about this one?

"Amadeau do not get at all, what did Shaka see in him?"  Or this one?

"Feel Al may have a short stay at MU. He's essentially walk on status. Not sure that changes next year with three bigger guys coming in."  Al knew coming in that A) He wasn't redshirting abd B) His minutes would be scarce.  The athleticism and length is tantalizing and I don't see any reason to worry about a transfer at this point.