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brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 23, 2024, 06:18:25 PM
Saying they should have hired someone other than the coach who was on the bench when they won their first title in 50 years is something.

And the guy they fired right after and were never happy with. Just because Bud did something they hadn't done in 50 years doesn't mean it was a better hire or that they wouldn't have better results.

Budenholzer had 4 years where he didn't win a title and lost to a lower seeded team in 3/4 years. If they had hired Hammon, it's entirely possible that drought isn't as long and the success is even greater. Just because NBA front offices are sexist and scared doesn't make Bud a better hire than Hammon would've been.

oilcan

Obviously surprising to see the Bucks firing a coach they just hired to lead the team. What a dream job right? All that talent, you would think you or I could coach that team to a championship.  They have not been winning even against average teams. Ouch. Don't panic but make a move while it's still early. Who's out there? Well it was a good move to call in Rivers to give advice to the management and the coach before they showed him the door.

If things don't get turned around I'll bet Damon Lillard is going to ask himself, "What did I do? I could be playing in South Beach with Jimmy Buckets."

I imagine we'll know in a few days if Doc Rivers is the next head coach. He's got the experience and won a title with the Celtics in 2008. And lost to the Lakers in the finals in 2010. Otherwise he lost a billion times with good teams year after year. There's got to be somebody better. BUT

I love him. Grew up in Chicago, played for Marquette when Al and Majerus were coaches. He always says good things about Marquette and Milwaukee. What if he could lead the team to back to the top of the eastern conference and push it even further?  I look forward to seeing that with Rivers or who ever the management decides what to do. Don't panic, but the situation is dire.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 23, 2024, 06:29:20 PM
I wonder if the shower leadership you admired and wrote a letter?

Translation please

4everwarriors

Its pig latin for "I've got gas pains," aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 23, 2024, 07:29:02 PM
Translation please

I wonder if he showed leadership you admired by writing a letter
Guster is for Lovers

Dr. Blackheart

S   U   P   E   R     B   A   R

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 23, 2024, 07:21:51 PM
And the guy they fired right after and were never happy with. Just because Bud did something they hadn't done in 50 years doesn't mean it was a better hire or that they wouldn't have better results.

Budenholzer had 4 years where he didn't win a title and lost to a lower seeded team in 3/4 years. If they had hired Hammon, it's entirely possible that drought isn't as long and the success is even greater. Just because NBA front offices are sexist and scared doesn't make Bud a better hire than Hammon would've been.

Or, as long as we are talking hypotheticals here, it may have worked out worse. But again it's pretty hard to argue with a championship.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 23, 2024, 07:49:44 PM
I wonder if he showed leadership you admired by writing a letter

Shoot. I was hoping it would be something original and/or funny. But thanks.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 23, 2024, 08:58:43 PM
Shoot. I was hoping it would be something original and/or funny. But thanks.

Crean sucks
Guster is for Lovers

HowardsWorld

It's official Doc Rivers is the new head coach

Uncle Rico

Well, wouldn't be my first choice but best of luck to Doc and here's hoping it works
Guster is for Lovers

BM1090

Clear upgrade but also nowhere near my first choice. Will be open minded about it though.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: BM1090 on January 23, 2024, 09:17:10 PM
Clear upgrade but also nowhere near my first choice. Will be open minded about it though.

"Nowhere near" your top choice??  Then who are the plethora of great and available candidates they passed on? Name names please. 

HutchwasClutch

I'm fine with Doc. A lot of recent playoff disappointments but still a championship and another Finals loss.  For a team all in, this is as good as you're going to do when you effed up so bad you had to make a change in January. 

He isn't perfect and there certainly was no one out there who was either. You don't win one championship and get to another being a fluke.  Here's hoping championships 2 and 3 for him are right here in Brewtown.

FairWeatherEagle

Rivers name is hanging from the rafters...worth something.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 23, 2024, 10:04:51 PM
Rivers name is hanging from the rafters...worth something.

No it really means and is worth nothing whether he's the guy to take the Bucks all the way.

HutchwasClutch


Galway Eagle

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 23, 2024, 10:24:40 PM
Not so fast about Doc apparently.  I still would bet it will happen.  But not a done deal yet.

https://twitter.com/sportsreiter/status/1749996200903008368?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Mrs rivers doesn't want to move back to wisconsin and is telling him to back out
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

mug644

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 23, 2024, 10:38:59 PM
Mrs rivers doesn't want to move back to wisconsin and is telling him to back out

Undone deal?

4everwarriors

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 23, 2024, 10:38:59 PM
Mrs rivers doesn't want to move back to wisconsin and is telling him to back out



Knot certain der iz a Mrs. Rivers at dis point, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

BrewCity83

The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

GB Warrior

As someone in consulting, what Doc did is a masterclass. Consulted his way straight into the top spot.

Goose

GB Warrior

No kidding. I thought the Bucks axing Griffin took some balls, but hiring Doc was a lazy choice. I am sure he planted and watered the seed while "consulting" the Bucks. 

JWags85

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 23, 2024, 06:04:44 PM
Bucks should hire the same person they should've hired in the search that landed Budenholzer. Becky Hammon spent 9 years on an NBA bench with Popovich and when she got passed over for NBA head coaching jobs, went to the WNBA and took the Las Vegas Aces to the best record in the league two straight years and won two WNBA Championships, posting a staggering 16-3 postseason record along the way.

I'm not saying Hammon isn't a great basketball mind/coach, but using WNBA success as a harbinger of what she may have done in the NBA is reckless.  Not to mention, she inherited a STACKED roster with 3 consecutive #1 picks that had just finished second in the league.  It was like taking over the Warriors in 2016...except in a 12 team league that your talent advantage is even more noticeable.

She's done awesome in LV, but she took over a monster and kept them chugging forward as opposed to building something that was undeveloped that makes you go "whoa what a coaching job".

CreightonWarrior

I'm hoping this is a trial through the end of the season thing. Picking the next HC just because he's available in the middle of the season isnt great.

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