Greg Gard a better recruiter than Shaka Smart?

[NolongerWarriors]

Yep, it's beginning to look like it, with the mediocre players (to put it nicely) that Shaka has brought to MU.

[BCHoopster]

Yep, it's beginning to look like it, with the mediocre players (to put it nicely) that Shaka has brought to MU.

I am in the same opinion as you, if you include the last year at Texas and the 2 at MU he has recruited one starter out of high school, the rest are marginal players, best players from the portal. I hope he looks in the portal this spring.
His best class might be the 2 recruits coming in next year, hope they can play right away.

[panda]

I have no dog in the fight but a buddy and myself were talking about the class that would've been for Shaka at Texas. Keeyan, emarion, Tamar bates and Joplin. Woof

[wadesworld]

I have no dog in the fight but a buddy and myself were talking about the class that would've been for Shaka at Texas. Keeyan, emarion, Tamar bates and Joplin. Woof

I'd certainly take Tamar and his 50% 3 point shooting next to Jop's 39% this year.

[franklinjerry]

I tend to agree. Remember Oso, Kam and Stevie were Wojos'. The last impact transfer is now 3 seasons out which is why the future has people concerned.  It's amusing to hear the board complain how Gard beats MU with inferior talent but he recruits to his system and coaches very well.

[panda]

I'd certainly take Tamar and his 50% 3 point shooting next to Jop's 39% this year.

Not the point I'm making but go off king

[wadesworld]

Not the point I'm making but go off king

What's the point you were trying to make then?

He would've had 2 starting level juniors in that class.  That's pretty much what you'd shoot for.  Have 2 players in every class that are good enough to start as upper classmen.

[CountryRoads]

Gard signs his fair share of stiffs. Though he does a good job getting enough of the right pieces in place that fit the system that are effective players for multiple years. I think Shaka pretty much tries to do the same.

[panda]

What's the point you were trying to make then?

He would've had 2 starting level juniors in that class.  That's pretty much what you'd shoot for.  Have 2 players in every class that are good enough to start as upper classmen.

Bates last few games are the first glimpses of talent we've seen from him so far in college. Ellis is without a team and Keeyan is doing his best...I doubt Texas fans would've loved that class.

[NCMUFan]

What we need is one of the stats people track MU coaches MU record year by year for Kevin O'Neill, Crean, Buzz, Wojo and Shaka.  For the hard core stats types, also record progression throughout season.

[CountryRoads]

I tend to agree. Remember Oso, Kam and Stevie were Wojos'. The last impact transfer is now 3 seasons out which is why the future has people concerned.  It's amusing to hear the board complain how Gard beats MU with inferior talent but he recruits to his system and coaches very well.

Those three were Wojo recruits but not sure what the point is. If they had left he may have replaced them with better players. We'll never know. He replaced Akanno and Perez with Kolek and Omax.

[GoldenEagles03]

😂 funny stuff.

[Daniel]

Those three were Wojo recruits but not sure what the point is. If they had left he may have replaced them with better players. We'll never know. He replaced Akanno and Perez with Kolek and Omax.

This is a good point,   And also, Shaka had to re-recruit Kam, Oso and Mitchell to stay.    That is no easy task either. 

[Jay Bee]

This is a good point,   And also, Shaka had to re-recruit Kam, Oso and Mitchell to stay.    That is no easy task either.

Of course it is! Kids are required to commit to the school, not the coach!!

[Viper]

I've come to appreciate Gard. Capital H hate UW, but Gard has a system and recruits to it similar to what Bo did and Dick Bennet did prior to Bo. And, Gard getting AJ Stohr was huge!! Gard has had some crap players and a couple bad seasons, for sure, but this is a big-time bounce back season for them. I still shake my head at how bad UW was for decades, and how solid they've become. I hate em, but it's a Walmart Badger Nation.
Shaka is still a TBD for me. Can Lowrey, Norman and Amadou play at this level? Do the incoming guys for next season have impact potential? Is Marquette Shaka Texas Shaka? MU under Shaka beat no. 1 Kansas and won the BE, but MU under Shaka looked absolutely terrible with a capital T vs Butler. Gard is pretty good...recruiting to his system. Hoping Shaka will recruit and be better. TBD, I suppose.

[Uncle Rico]

Greg Gard sucks

[muwarrior69]

Of course it is! Kids are required to commit to the school, not the coach!!

Then why do some players follow the coach to their new school. Sure some stay as well, but it is the coach that convinced to stay not the school.

[Jay Bee]

Then why do some players follow the coach to their new school. Sure some stay as well, but it is the coach that convinced to stay not the school.

Then they lied on contracts they signed. Prosecution is warranted.

[HowardsWorld]

I don't believe he is a better recruiter but Gard getting Storr from the transfer portal is probably going to be the difference in being a 8/9 seed in the ncaa tournament and potentially a sweet 16/ elite 8 berth.

All over the country you see the affects of transfer portal guys. I don't blame Shaka this go around because he had everyone coming back minus omax. However you can always get better. I'm sure it was a chemistry thing for Shaka why he choose not to. Moving forward I don't think we will have this issue again.

[The Sultan]

Gard has also moved away from the swing being the sole set offense. They are playing at a slightly quicker pace this year as well. (Still slower than average but still...)

I think he's definitely moved out of Bo's shadow and made the program his own.

[Uncle Rico]

Gard has also moved away from the swing being the sole set offense. They are playing at a slightly quicker pace this year as well. (Still slower than average but still...)

I think he's definitely moved out of Bo's shadow and made the program his own.

They're 326th in pace

[HowardsWorld]

They're 326th in pace

Goes to show you how effective they have been. Metrics show this offense is the best they have had in Madison since 2015 and is outperforming the 2014 final four team. Pace doesn't mean anything.

[HowardsWorld]

The offense is getting away from the swing and Kirk penny former Wisconsin player is installing a European style offense that he learned overseas.

[Uncle Rico]

Goes to show you how effective they have been. Metrics show this offense is the best they have had in Madison since 2015 and is outperforming the 2014 final four team. Pace doesn't mean anything.

We'll see how it holds up.

[The Sultan]

They're 326th in pace

They were higher earlier in the year! Apparently I haven't kept up.