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JakeBarnes

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 11, 2024, 01:36:29 PM
Our MRIs must be slow developing. Providence had the bad news out on Hopkins in the morning.

Working on a bionic leg
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

GoldenEagles03

VIOLENCE!

BrewCity83

I'm still waiting on Chase's MRI from Monday...
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

panda

Sometimes need to let swelling decrease before obvesrving a conclusive MRI post injury

BrewCity83

dr. panda has spoken.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

MUfan12


Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

PistolPete

Folks that don't watch MUBB night in and night out might look at Sean's metrics and not realize what a significant loss this is. Sean provided a much needed spark in several games this year, at least one or two of which we probably don't win without him. Kid is a winner and I wish him the very best in his recovery. Extremely bummed for him and the team.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: PistolPete on January 11, 2024, 05:20:15 PM
Folks that don't watch MUBB night in and night out might look at Sean's metrics and not realize what a significant loss this is. Sean provided a much needed spark in several games this year, at least one or two of which we probably don't win without him. Kid is a winner and I wish him the very best in his recovery. Extremely bummed for him and the team.

Agreed


GoldenWarrior11

Get well soon, Sean. Prayers up.

Uncle Rico

Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks for Sean.  Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks.  The suckiest suck sucking sucky sucks.  Just awful
Guster is for Lovers

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2024, 05:38:08 PM
Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks for Sean.  Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks.  The suckiest suck sucking sucky sucks.  Just awful

This about sums it up
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2024, 05:38:08 PM
Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks for Sean.  Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks.  The suckiest suck sucking sucky sucks.  Just awful

Exactly right.  Sucks to high heaven.  Get well soon young man and stay strong. 

MUEng92

Here I thought last night's game couldn't get any worse after I walked out of Fiserv.  Brutal

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2024, 05:38:08 PM
Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks for Sean.  Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks.  The suckiest suck sucking sucky sucks.  Just awful

It was almost as quiet in FiFo as when Dom fractured his foot. Everyone around me whispered to their neighbor: "ACL"

mugrad_89

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 11, 2024, 06:36:03 PM
It was almost as quiet in FiFo as when Dom fractured his foot. Everyone around me whispered to their neighbor: "ACL"

You could tell by the look on Lowery's face that he knew what it was.

DoctorV

Quote from: Goose on January 11, 2024, 12:55:16 PM
I think Sean Jones style is the future of PG play at MU, not just this year. This team is such a once in lifetime makeup of a roster that it blows my mind. Having TK and Oso become what they have become as players and styles is not going to ever happen again. Not taking advantage of two unique players is beyond silly in my mind and having Sean Jones running up the court dribbling the ball at 110mph with spotty success did not register with me.

Someone pointed out his play against Kansas and Creighton and there were some very good moments. That said, in a two minute stretch in the first half against Creighton he has three missed shots and two turnovers. On each possession the ball hardly left his hands. One of the missed shots was off of a rebound of his own missed shot.

IMO, the offense changed and stalled when Sean got more minutes. I think once it is a 100% Shake recruited roster that Sean Jones and other PG like him will be the star of the show. At the moment, MU has at least three better players to highlight on offense.

Nah. You know a decent amount of ball but this ain't it.

You're used to the wizardry and passing ability of Tyler, his surgical ability to read the game, diagnose an angle, and deliver the perfect pass that when someone like Sean comes roaring down the court with his "over dribbling" and makes a mistake it's magnified.

Sean had some of the most impressive 13 minutes offensively of any guard on Marquettes roster this season in the game against Creighton.
In that moment in time in the 2nd half, with the game on the line, he was tough, calculated, and effective scoring inside and out.

And that wasn't the only time. His speed breaks down good organized defenses in a way the other guards can't.
Whether playing him with TyKo was a correct move, versus as a complete dichotomous change of pace in his place I won't argue, that's the coaches call.

-How can the offense change and stall when Sean Jones got more minutes when he literally single handedly scored like 8 or Marquettes 10 points in the most crucial 8 minutes of the Creighton game, when he only played 13?

-Or how about at SH when he came in and the team went on an immediate run offensively, he sat and SH went up 10, he came in under 2:30 and MU immediately got within 1?

The kid had his two best games of the season in the last 3 and it's a shame and a huge loss that his season is over. Claiming that the team suffered offensively because of him after the last few games is a huge reach.

MUfan12

If Tre sticks around he's gonna be the point guard. He hasn't shown it quite yet, but at the prep level he was really good at controlling pace and not getting sped up.

Sean is a perfect change of pace back up off the bench. But his size and shooting are huge limitations.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 11, 2024, 11:42:24 PM
If Tre sticks around he's gonna be the point guard. He hasn't shown it quite yet, but at the prep level he was really good at controlling pace and not getting sped up.

Sean is a perfect change of pace back up off the bench. But his size and shooting are huge limitations.

There's a reason Tre gets off the bench before Zaide despite Zaide playing better than him so far. The staff really like Tre but he has not shown it in games yet
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Goose

Doctor V

Not sure if you read my entire posts on Sean or not, but I like him as a player. Yes, he had a great second half against Creighton and provided a big spark at SH. That said, the beauty of the MU offense the past two years has been it moves the ball quickly and everyone is involved.

Actually, Sean was on the court in the Kansas game when the offense had its finest possession this season. In the first half there were four passes made without a dribble, two guys passed up up pretty open 3's to hit Ben Gold with no one within 7-8 feet of him. That is the offense looks the best. That has been MIA more than not the past month.

As I noted in earlier post, I do not think we will ever see this type of roster ever again. Unique players that ran an offense almost to perfection for 1+ years and then it stalled. I am not blaming Sean, just pointing out his style might not be a great fit for this years team.

There is no doubt in my mind that his style will be perfect in the post TK, Oso era because the style of play will be different.

Lastly, IMO the offense was exceptional for a long time because it was team driven. If a 13 minute run by one guy is how you evaluate the big picture, that's fine. Again, I like Sean as a player and might really like him down the road when the team has a different look.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 12, 2024, 12:23:10 AM
There's a reason Tre gets off the bench before Zaide despite Zaide playing better than him so far. The staff really like Tre but he has not shown it in games yet

It would be great if Tre starts showing something in games.  I'm not sure what offensive skills or tools he has to be a high impact offensive player.

What I've seen so far:

He's not that quick or explosive
His handle can't break down a defense
His passing looks average
He's not a great shooter

I know freshman can improve a lot as their careers progress.  But right now, I expect Tre to have a Stevie Mitchell or Sacar Anim level career.  But when he signed, I was hoping for more of a Jerel McNeal type trajectory.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 12, 2024, 08:04:54 AM
It would be great if Tre starts showing something in games.  I'm not sure what offensive skills or tools he has to be a high impact offensive player.

What I've seen so far:

He's not that quick or explosive
His handle can't break down a defense
His passing looks average
He's not a great shooter

I know freshman can improve a lot as their careers progress.  But right now, I expect Tre to have a Stevie Mitchell or Sacar Anim level career.  But when he signed, I was hoping for more of a Jerel McNeal type trajectory.

You were hoping that a borderline top 100 recruit would be on the same trajectory as the programs 2nd all time leading scorer?
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

rgoode57

Don't know if Sean will fully recover his speed and quickness or not, but I sure hope so. Yes, he periodically still lets his speed get out of control, and he plays a different pg game than Tyler. But, he sure is fun to watch when he is playing well. And his defense will certainly be missed. Maybe he can recover and rehab in time to be ready for next season. In the meantime, we will find out if Tre Norman can play or not because Tyler cannot play forty minutes. Kam and perhaps even Stevie can give a little help at the point, but Tre is going to have to play.

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