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Pakuni

Sirianni and Hurts aren't blameless, but the Eagles stopped playing defense in November.

GB Warrior

The Lions are going to sleep walk to the NFCC against the Bucs

Dish

Everyone applauds Howie Roseman, but he did a bad job with this Eagles secondary. Jalen Carter ended up being fine for them, he had long stretches of games where he was MIA this season though. But for a draft class that was strong at CB, his way too old secondary certainly got exposed this year.

forgetful

Quote from: forgetful on January 09, 2024, 12:16:26 AM
I'm going for chaos in the NFC.

Underdogs win every game in the NFC.

And chalk in the AFC

If it wasn't for the Damn Lions, I'd have gotten it 100% right.

Actually happy for the Lions though. Been a long time since they had something to be happy about.

edit: Scratch that, just realized Tampa Bay was actually the favorite and not the underdog.

MU82

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 15, 2024, 09:31:08 PM
Sirianni gowne

After that end-of-season collapse, maybe some rich Marquette alums will buy out his contract.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Goff vs. Mayfield.   There is a redemption story.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

Quote from: tower912 on January 16, 2024, 05:48:08 AM
Goff vs. Mayfield.   There is a redemption story.

Obviously there is a ton of merited talk about the Eagles implosion, but regardless of how bad Patricia was last night...Baker was FANTASTIC.  Shades of 2020.  That throw he made for the final TD was a perfect encapsulation of that. 

He's taken the short term second chance he had in Tampa and just balled out in a contract year.  He's still on the low side of 30, he's about to get PAID.  Derek Carr signed for $37.5MM a year.  Daniel Jones for $40MM.  Gotta think Baker gets at least $35MM.  Crazy that 2 years after being jettisoned, he'll sign a contract for a more per year than his total rookie deal as a #1 pick.

The Sultan

I always have thought that the Browns were way too quick to get rid of him. He played injured all of 2022 and still was effective. Going all in on Watson was always a dubious move, and Baker likely needed a change of scenery, but this seems to be another case study of what bad franchises keep being bad franchises.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 16, 2024, 10:00:19 AM
I always have thought that the Browns were way too quick to get rid of him. He played injured all of 2022 and still was effective. Going all in on Watson was always a dubious move, and Baker likely needed a change of scenery, but this seems to be another case study of what bad franchises keep being bad franchises.

And speaking of bad franchises ... Mayfield absolutely sucked for the Panthers.

But anybody with half a brain (and I do qualify, but just barely) knew that the team around him was effed. He didn't help himself with some boneheaded decisions, but he got just about no help.

He actually was a real good teammate in NC. Always accepted responsibility, never pointed fingers, stayed ready after being benched, didn't whine about the (bad) coaching, etc. I truly wish him well.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 16, 2024, 10:00:19 AM
I always have thought that the Browns were way too quick to get rid of him. He played injured all of 2022 and still was effective. Going all in on Watson was always a dubious move, and Baker likely needed a change of scenery, but this seems to be another case study of what bad franchises keep being bad franchises.

The team is playing OK, but Baker has been pretty pedestrian. He benefited last night from an Eagles team that had little interest in tackling (219 of his 337 yards passing were after the catch) or, really, playing much defense at all. In terms of all the metrics over the course of the season, he's been very middle of the pack.

It's understandable to look back now and say "maybe Cleveland should have kept him," but that overlooks how toxic the situation was there and how the locker room - and city - had had enough of him.

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on January 16, 2024, 11:44:28 AM
The team is playing OK, but Baker has been pretty pedestrian. He benefited last night from an Eagles team that had little interest in tackling (219 of his 337 yards passing were after the catch) or, really, playing much defense at all. In terms of all the metrics over the course of the season, he's been very middle of the pack.

It's understandable to look back now and say "maybe Cleveland should have kept him," but that overlooks how toxic the situation was there and how the locker room - and city - had had enough of him.

Actually had the same conversation this morning.  I asked my friend what the main factor was for Baker getting shoved out.  He basically said, as mentioned here, the injury timing was just terrible.  He played bad with and around the injury, he wanted more than the $20MMish a year the Browns would pay him, and the locker room was a mess.  And Stefanski didn't really seem to care for him.   He never made any specific statements, but my friend specifically mentioned that Stefanski speaks glowingly and positively about Watson that he never did with Baker.

He seems like a good dude, a good locker room presence, likely needed to grow up a bit...I can see how a walk on turned into a Heisman winning, 1st pick might have a bit of attitude or whatnot.  But a change of scenery can do a lot for some QBs, shout out Jared Goff.

tower912

Bowles asked in his presser how he is getting his team ready for the weather in Detroit.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2024, 11:09:08 AM
Bowles asked in his presser how he is getting his team ready for the weather in Detroit.

I don't know how he managed to keep a straight face as that question was being asked
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


forgetful

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2024, 11:09:08 AM
Bowles asked in his presser how he is getting his team ready for the weather in Detroit.

Hey you can never be too careful about the walk between the hotel and bus, and bus and stadium.

GB Warrior

Quote from: forgetful on January 17, 2024, 12:17:40 PM
Hey you can never be too careful about the walk between the hotel and bus, and bus and stadium.

Sure but that probably has more to do with dentists lurking about than the weather

Uncle Rico

Ravens 34 Texans 16
49ers 38 Packers 24
Guster is for Lovers

CreightonWarrior

Texans D has been impressive

Uncle Rico

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 20, 2024, 05:00:51 PM
Texans D has been impressive

Yup.  Lamar needs to pull the trigger on the ball, though.  Playing tentative passing
Guster is for Lovers

Uncle Rico

Ravens overpowering the Texans in the 2nd half
Guster is for Lovers

GB Warrior

This is a lower scoring version of what I expect the 49ers-Packers game will be. Texans just ran out of juice and the Ravens made the adjustments good teams make.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GB Warrior on January 20, 2024, 06:15:31 PM
This is a lower scoring version of what I expect the 49ers-Packers game will be. Texans just ran out of juice and the Ravens made the adjustments good teams make.

Texans defense played less aggressive in the 2nd half than they did to close the 1st half. 
Guster is for Lovers

MU1in77

Quote from: GB Warrior on January 20, 2024, 06:15:31 PM
This is a lower scoring version of what I expect the 49ers-Packers game will be. Texans just ran out of juice and the Ravens made the adjustments good teams make.

This is how I see the Packer game going tonight. GB keeps it close early but the 49's pull away and win big with Samual & McCaffrey wearing down the Packer defense. I hope I'm wrong!

Uncle Rico

Texans had a great year.  Need a dynamo to rush the QB on that defense.  Like the Texans future a lot more than Jacksonville
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Ravens are the team to beat. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Lions 31 Buccs 17

Bills 19 Chiefs 16
Guster is for Lovers

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