Sh1t show, squared

[real chili 83]

Congrats to the Friars.

Shaka looking like Wojo tonight.

[PGsHeroes32]

Not sure much of the in game is on Shaka. This was just guys simply playing stupid for 40 min.

We are seeing the potential flaws that we all have worried about in Shakas philosphy when things are not near perfect like last year. Time to use the portal like everyone else when you clearly need other options.

And as Ive said for weeks now. The whole "everyone has a green light" thing falls on Shaka. Its simply bad philosphy to give 5 guys on this team a green light.

Hes gotta come up with other ways for us to score because against any defense with a pulse we are screwed. TK making a delicious kick out to a open Gold(ok shooter) who makes the extra pass to Chase(cant shoot) to Sean(really cant shoot) looks pretty until ultimately the shot is bricked. ANd it happens over and over and over.

[Johnny B]

Very embarrassing and upsetting. keep trying kid myself thinking this is a top 6 team but garbage like this makes it tough.worse part is we are the better team.  f uc providence they suck. Hate playing here. Was hoping the badger game would be the worst performance of the year but this one edges it out. Just horrendous basketball. Still.....as bad is this was wouldn't be surprised if we win 7 or 8 straight after this. 

[HutchwasClutch]

Two true road games, were dominated in both.  Concerning. 

[SaveOD238]

Two true road games, were dominated in both.  Concerning.

We beat Illinois at Illinois.

[HutchwasClutch]

We beat Illinois at Illinois.

These last two have been so bad, forgot that one.
Still 2/3 non competitive road games is concerning.

[Boone]

Currently have one scholarship available for next year. Shaka can't put it in his pocket again. Use it on a Morsell-type grad transfer

[MUeng]

Very embarrassing and upsetting. keep trying kid myself thinking this is a top 6 team but garbage like this makes it tough.worse part is we are the better team.  f uc providence they suck. Hate playing here. Was hoping the badger game would be the worst performance of the year but this one edges it out. Just horrendous basketball. Still.....as bad is this was wouldn't be surprised if we win 7 or 8 straight after this.

I wouldn't be surprised by that win streak, nor would I be if we lost 3 out of the next 4. Don't know how to read this team

[real chili 83]

Ba humbug

[panda]

Not sure much of the in game is on Shaka. This was just guys simply playing stupid for 40 min.

We are seeing the potential flaws that we all have worried about in Shakas philosphy when things are not near perfect like last year. Time to use the portal like everyone else when you clearly need other options.

And as Ive said for weeks now. The whole "everyone has a green light" thing falls on Shaka. Its simply bad philosphy to give 5 guys on this team a green light.

Hes gotta come up with other ways for us to score because against any defense with a pulse we are screwed. TK making a delicious kick out to a open Gold(ok shooter) who makes the extra pass to Chase(cant shoot) to Sean(really cant shoot) looks pretty until ultimately the shot is bricked. ANd it happens over and over and over.

This 100% - throwing away possessions with poor shooters constantly missing is killer. Especially when we give up so many extra possessions defensively with our poor rebounding.

I also think they're asking too much of jop. He kills the flow with his drives and more often than not, ends up in a really bad spot, resulting in a poor shot, travel or throwing the ball into another bad spot. He should never put the ball on the floor, play him on the weak side and get him as many spot up looks as they can.

[Newsdreams]

Not sure much of the in game is on Shaka. This was just guys simply playing stupid for 40 min.

We are seeing the potential flaws that we all have worried about in Shakas philosphy when things are not near perfect like last year. Time to use the portal like everyone else when you clearly need other options.

And as Ive said for weeks now. The whole "everyone has a green light" thing falls on Shaka. Its simply bad philosphy to give 5 guys on this team a green light.

Hes gotta come up with other ways for us to score because against any defense with a pulse we are screwed. TK making a delicious kick out to a open Gold(ok shooter) who makes the extra pass to Chase(cant shoot) to Sean(really cant shoot) looks pretty until ultimately the shot is bricked. ANd it happens over and over and over.

If guys play stupid for 40 minutes, coach is to blame or wtf is coach doing for 40 minutes.

[Viper]

I had penciled this one in as a loss, but how we lost is surprising. This team needs Ross, Jop & Gold to be better, and cannot go another game without Mitchell. Ok, nothing profound with that statement. However, we need 'another guy', and unfortunately he's not on the roster. A guy that can bang in the paint. Play D. Clean the glass. I'm adjusting down a game to 13-7 in conference. Still should be good for a 4 or 5 seed. Then...matchups will determine our fortunes.

[Johnny B]

I had penciled this one in as a loss, but how we lost is surprising. This team needs Ross, Jop & Gold to be better, and cannot go another game without Mitchell. Ok, nothing profound with that statement. However, we need 'another guy', and unfortunately he's not on the roster. A guy that can bang in the paint. Play D. Clean the glass. I'm adjusting down a game to 13-7 in conference. Still should be good for a 4 or 5 seed. Then...matchups will determine our fortunes.

If he can't go today why bother trying him in 3 days. Just rest for creighton. Also any lower than a 3 seed would be a colossal disappointment..

[rocky_warrior]

I also think they're asking too much of jop. He kills the flow with his drives and more often than not, ends up in a really bad spot, resulting in a poor shot, travel or throwing the ball into another bad spot. He should never put the ball on the floor, play him on the weak side and get him as many spot up looks as they can.

Whoa.  Bravo.  Never thought you'd be so honest about Jop.

[Norm]

If he can't go today why bother trying him in 3 days. Just rest for creighton. Also any lower than a 3 seed would be a colossal disappointment..

I'd brace for disappointment. Marquette is a good but flawed team that doesn't shoot the 3 or rebound well. I think 4-6 seed is more likely.

[Johnny B]

I'd brace for disappointment. Marquette is a good but flawed team that doesn't shoot the 3 or rebound well. I think 4-6 seed is more likely.

So you think they'll actually fall out of the top 25 by march? Cause that's what a 5 or 6 seed would mean with the non conference resume they have. A 4 and we're ranked like 23 ish. idk it would really bad like 10-8 in big east

[Norm]

So you think they'll actually fall out of the top 25 by march? Cause that's what a 5 or 6 seed would mean with the non conference resume they have. A 4 and we're ranked like 23 ish. idk it would really bad like 10-8 in big east

4 seed would be basically 13-16 and 5 seed 17-20 if it perfectly aligned with rankings. I read somewhere they dropped to 14 in Kenpom already. I thought they'd finish around 4th in the league before the year started. Was gladly thinking I was wrong watching them play well in Hawaii, but since then I don't think they have looked that great. I can see 6-7 more losses in the conference unless they find some 3 point shooting and Kam, Tyler and Oso all have good nights at the same time on a regular basis - and that has not happened much this season.

[Goose]

Bad, bad performance by MU. They never seemed to get into rhythm and the poor shooting coupled with turnovers did them in. The biggest thing that has jumped up to me during their poorly played games has been lack of ball movement. In both the UW game and last night, Sean Jones got extended minutes and the offense stalled out.

IMO, if Kolek is going to play in the NBA it us going to be at PG and that is where he should be playing. He gets everyone involved at a very high level and that has been the difference.

It is funny that the new theme is that MU has little talent off of the bench, yet in the games they looked their best, the young guys were praised on here. When the offense is clicking, it makes everyone look great and when it stalls, weaknesses are exposed.

Bad game, bad effort, bad execution and they got beat up. This game was marked as a loss for me going into the season and figured they would have 3-4 clunkers in BE play. Hopefully only 2-3 clunkers left for the team. It will come down to shooting and hope the good shooting days are in March.

No silver lining, aside of getting from getting a tough road game off the schedule.

[Herman Cain]

English Enterprises has better players ,overall ,than MU. The spread reflects the talent gap.

MU =a Whole Is Greater Than Sum Of Parts Team.  Stevie is missed in that context.

MU deep pockets supporters needs to come up with the coin to compete in portal next spring. We need shooters not brick layers .

Unfortunately, there will be several more beat downs like this on the road. MU will need to hold serve at home.

[willie warrior]

Very embarrassing and upsetting. keep trying kid myself thinking this is a top 6 team but garbage like this makes it tough.worse part is we are the better team.  f uc providence they suck. Hate playing here. Was hoping the badger game would be the worst performance of the year but this one edges it out. Just horrendous basketball. Still.....as bad is this was wouldn't be surprised if we win 7 or 8 straight after this.

7 or 8 straight aint happening

[willie warrior]

Really disappointing and frustrating. Had high hopes this year, but these guys have spent too much time reading press clippings and not enough time working on flaws. The players are who they are. Several guards that can't shoot the 3. Short Jones, Mitchell, Ross. Joplin who can't post without a TO. Gold who many think is NBA, but is not even ready for BEast.
They all seem like good kids but they appear to not be ready for the rigors of BEast play. Don't forget Wisconsin and St. Thomas. Going to be a long year.
What the hell happened from last year?

[rocket surgeon]

 it's too easy for an opponent to neutralize a team with only one or two weapons.  put em in an old milwaukee arena sized building on the road and ya got yourselves exactly what happened last night. 

   not going to get into "blaming the refs" but the way they were calling that game, on the physical side of inconsistent, left us very little chance to make a come back.  the refs seemed to just swallow their whistles every time he'd try to draw fouls on aggressive drives to the basket.  a couple of calls and/or "and ones" woulda/coulda  done wonders in so many ways

  there were a couple of times i thought i saw "that look" in TK's eyes, but the rest of the team just couldn't seem to come thru with him. 

   gold had that deer in the headlights look again

   i love seanie but...does he even practice shooting anything beyond spin move jukes and 1-3 footers?

jop way too tentative-not playing like a seasoned junior

[NickelDimer]

Schedule L. Moving on.

[rgoode57]

Sometimes you get beat by a team that outplays you; sometimes you beat yourself. Last night was a combination of the two. On offense, the ball got stuck too much, no one could hit a 3 pt shot, and everyone took turns missing layups. On defense, the rotations seemed slow, and there were too many stupid fouls (especially on 3 pt shots).

I have been a bit skeptical of their ranking, but after Maui I thought that perhaps they were that good. They are not. This is not a top 10 team. It's a good team, and, when everything works well, it's a very good team. But, it is a team that has to have all its parts and play focused, high-energy ball.

[Goose]

rgoode

I think it comes down to moving the ball. Kolek has to have ball in his hands if this team wants to win big. Sean Jones dribbles way too much and then everyone else follows suit. The UW game and last night reminded me of Feb of Shaka's first season. I thought Lewis and Morsel hung onto the ball way too much and it broke the team style of play. It is time for the big three to play team ball and not showcase their individual skills.