Scrimmage vs. Michigan

[Class71]

One scrimmage does not make a year so let's not over react.

What concerns me is the lack of strength up front. That continues to be our weakness which has not been addressed. Obviously we have great guards and a gifted ball handler at center but the lack of a power forward is a real problem. Help me understand how we work around that issue and I will feel much better.

[mug644]

One scrimmage does not make a year so let's not over react.

What concerns me is the lack of strength up front. That continues to be our weakness which has not been addressed. Obviously we have great guards and a gifted ball handler at center but the lack of a power forward is a real problem. Help me understand how we work around that issue and I will feel much better.

We'll work around it the same way we did last year, and this time with more experienced players. Last year's work around went pretty well overall, wouldn't you say?

[tower912]

MU has more returning minutes than any team I can remember.   And the three sophomores could make the same leap that the sophomores made last year.    Trust the development.  Every team is different, every season is different.    Barring injuries, this should be fun.

[bilsu]

MU has more returning minutes than any team I can remember.   And the three sophomores could make the same leap that the sophomores made last year.    Trust the development.  Every team is different, every season is different.    Barring injuries, this should be fun.

"every season is different" is what worries me. Up until the Michigan State game most things broke in our favor. These things tend to even out. I do believe we have a better team this year, but things may not break in our favor as much as they did last year.

Slim margins. How much different would your outlook be for this year, if we lost to St. John's in first game of Big East tournament last year?

[tower912]

The same.  It was a great season.  The titles validate it, sure.   But if SJU had beaten MU in the garden, it would have been a slightly less great season, but a great season, nonetheless.

[brewcity77]

MU has more returning minutes than any team I can remember.   And the three sophomores could make the same leap that the sophomores made last year.    Trust the development.  Every team is different, every season is different.    Barring injuries, this should be fun.

In terms of minutes, 2008-09 comes to mind, and we were in position for a Big East title and 1-seed before DJ's injury.

[Scoop Snoop]

The same.  It was a great season.  The titles validate it, sure.   But if SJU had beaten MU in the garden, it would have been a slightly less great season, but a great season, nonetheless.

We were at the St. Johns game. I do not tell my cardiologist about games like that one.

[bilsu]

The same.  It was a great season.  The titles validate it, sure.   But if SJU had beaten MU in the garden, it would have been a slightly less great season, but a great season, nonetheless.

The question was if we lost that game, would your expectations for this year be different than they are now?

[tower912]

No.  Different season.   And I have no expectatuons for this season other than it should be fun.

This is a really good team playing a really tough schedule.   Sit back, relax, enjoy the adventure.

[PointWarrior]

"every season is different" is what worries me. Up until the Michigan State game most things broke in our favor. These things tend to even out. I do believe we have a better team this year, but things may not break in our favor as much as they did last year.

Slim margins. How much different would your outlook be for this year, if we lost to St. John's in first game of Big East tournament last year?

whoever came up with "Marquette Worriers" as the new nickname was spot on...

[Pepe Sylvia]

In terms of minutes, 2008-09 comes to mind, and we were in position for a Big East title and 1-seed before DJ's injury.

07-08 comes even more to mind, as the 06-07 team had no seniors getting significant minutes at all, whereas 08-09 lost Ousmane Barro and Dan Fitzgerald from the previous years squad, and both of those guys played way more minutes than Jamil Lott did.

[Jay Bee]

07-08 comes even more to mind, as the 06-07 team had no seniors getting significant minutes at all, whereas 08-09 lost Ousmane Barro and Dan Fitzgerald from the previous years squad, and both of those guys played way more minutes than Jamil Lott did.

Correct. Returning mins is one thing... mins continuity, 07-08 was over 80%

Although I think we beat that this year rather easily

[Hards Alumni]

One scrimmage does not make a year so let's not over react.

What concerns me is the lack of strength up front. That continues to be our weakness which has not been addressed. Obviously we have great guards and a gifted ball handler at center but the lack of a power forward is a real problem. Help me understand how we work around that issue and I will feel much better.

Because its 2023, and the game has changed.

[#UnleashSean]

Because its 2023, and the game has changed.

100% correct.

[jfp61]

Turns out Michigan might be good this year, they look to have an elite offense.

(Olivier Nkamhoua is very good)

Whether it is because they lost Juwan, His Son, or Hunter Dickinson.

They beat UNC Ashville last night 99-74.

But in the first half with more starters minutes, Michigan won 48-32. Michigan had 1.42 PPP, the First half was only 34 possessions.

[wadesworld]

I wanted Marquette to drop the bag for either (or both) of Nkamhoua or Burnett.  Both looked good.  I like their lineup.  Those two plus McDaniel are a nice group, and they have some big dudes down low.

I'm still interested to know how much Kolek, Oso, Stevie, and Kam played in the scrimmage.

[Uncle Rico]

Turns out Michigan might be good this year, they look to have an elite offense.

(Olivier Nkamhoua is very good)

Whether it is because they lost Juwan, His Son, or Hunter Dickinson.

They beat UNC Ashville last night 99-74.

But in the first half with more starters minutes, Michigan won 48-32. Michigan had 1.42 PPP, the First half was only 34 possessions.

Shaka can't beat Big Ten teams

[Tyler COLEk]

Associate Michigan Head Coach Phil Martelli:

"Just suppose we had a secret scrimmage in Milwaukee (No. 5 Marquette) and just suppose the score reported (115-111) was the score we won by in 48 minutes. And just suppose, in 48 minutes, we only trailed twice"

"We haven't gotten blood in our mouth yet"

Michigan and others seem to be getting an awful lot of mileage out of this "secret" scrimmage "victory." Rick Pitino also mentions it here: https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1722095068482351116

I hope Shaka and MU are seeing this kind of stuff.

[1318WWells]

Shaka can't beat Big Ten teams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTxx3PEU3aw

[JakeBarnes]

Associate Michigan Head Coach Phil Martelli:

Michigan and others seem to be getting an awful lot of mileage out of this "secret" scrimmage "victory." Rick Pitino also mentions it here: https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1722095068482351116

I hope Shaka and MU are seeing this kind of stuff.

Hunted. Not the Hunter.

[barfolomew]

Hunted. Not the Hunter.

So now we lost because they didn't have Dickenson?

[wadesworld]

Don't think the scrimmage was even in Milwaukee.

[Viper]

Shaka can't beat Big Ten teams

correct

[tower912]

Except Illinois.