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Author Topic: Lewiston shooting  (Read 4920 times)

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2023, 05:48:49 AM »
Were the doors locked?
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2023, 06:18:14 AM »
All those mental health issues, already threatened shooting up a national guard facility, still allowed to own a bunch of guns.

Who could have possibly seen this coming.

Uncle Rico

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2023, 06:18:59 AM »
All those mental health issues, already threatened shooting up a national guard facility, still allowed to own a bunch of guns.

Who could have possibly seen this coming.

All you can do is prey
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2023, 06:21:36 AM »
The old 'infinite number of monkeys and an  number of typewriters and one of them will write Hamlet' argument.

Hundreds of million of guns in the hands of tens of millions of people.    Gonna get this sometimes.
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2023, 06:48:52 AM »
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2023, 06:58:08 AM »
All those mental health issues, already threatened shooting up a national guard facility, still allowed to own a bunch of guns.

Who could have possibly seen this coming.

In a different time maybe the guy would have been committed. Difficult to do today.

Uncle Rico

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2023, 07:03:30 AM »
In a different time maybe the guy would have been committed. Difficult to do today.

In a sane worlds he wouldn’t have access to guns.  Difficult to do today.
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2023, 07:06:49 AM »
Along those lines, the unnatural carnal knowledgeing 5th Circuit thinks domestic abusers with a history of gun violence should have an inalienable right to own guns.

https://www.vox.com/scotus/2023/10/24/23914235/supreme-court-domestic-violence-abusers-gun-policy-us-rahimi

"Three years ago, according to the Justice Department, Zackey Rahimi and his girlfriend had an argument in a parking lot where Rahimi threatened to take away their mutual child. He then allegedly grabbed her wrist, knocked her to the ground, dragged her to the car, and hit her head on the dashboard. After he realized that a witness had seen this fight, Rahimi allegedly pulled a gun and fired at this bystander.

He later called his girlfriend and allegedly threatened to shoot her if she told anyone that he’d assaulted her.

This is one of a series of gun crimes allegedly committed by Rahimi. In 2020, he allegedly threatened another woman with a gun. According to the Justice Department, “Rahimi also participated in a series of five shootings in December 2020 and January 2021.” In one alleged incident, he “fired into the man’s house with an AR-15 rifle.” In another, he allegedly followed a truck and “fired multiple shots at another car that had been traveling behind the truck” after the truck’s driver flashed their headlights at Rahimi.

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Before anyone can be disarmed under this law, a court must have issued a restraining order against them, in a proceeding where the defendant was given an opportunity to appear and make their case. Federal law does not disarm anyone unless a court has either explicitly determined that they are a violent threat to their partner or to a child, or implicitly made such a determination by prohibiting them from engaging in violence against that partner or child.

Nevertheless, the Fifth Circuit didn’t just strike down this law. It ruled that the law is unconstitutional on its face. That means that, if the Fifth Circuit’s decision is upheld by the Supreme Court, this federal ban on firearm possession by domestic abusers may never be applied to any individual, no matter how violent that individual may be and no matter how careful the court that issued a restraining order against such an individual was in ensuring that they received due process."
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2023, 07:11:59 AM »
Along those lines, the unnatural carnal knowledgeing 5th Circuit thinks domestic abusers with a history of gun violence should have an inalienable right to own guns.

https://www.vox.com/scotus/2023/10/24/23914235/supreme-court-domestic-violence-abusers-gun-policy-us-rahimi

"Three years ago, according to the Justice Department, Zackey Rahimi and his girlfriend had an argument in a parking lot where Rahimi threatened to take away their mutual child. He then allegedly grabbed her wrist, knocked her to the ground, dragged her to the car, and hit her head on the dashboard. After he realized that a witness had seen this fight, Rahimi allegedly pulled a gun and fired at this bystander.

He later called his girlfriend and allegedly threatened to shoot her if she told anyone that he’d assaulted her.

This is one of a series of gun crimes allegedly committed by Rahimi. In 2020, he allegedly threatened another woman with a gun. According to the Justice Department, “Rahimi also participated in a series of five shootings in December 2020 and January 2021.” In one alleged incident, he “fired into the man’s house with an AR-15 rifle.” In another, he allegedly followed a truck and “fired multiple shots at another car that had been traveling behind the truck” after the truck’s driver flashed their headlights at Rahimi.

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Before anyone can be disarmed under this law, a court must have issued a restraining order against them, in a proceeding where the defendant was given an opportunity to appear and make their case. Federal law does not disarm anyone unless a court has either explicitly determined that they are a violent threat to their partner or to a child, or implicitly made such a determination by prohibiting them from engaging in violence against that partner or child.

Nevertheless, the Fifth Circuit didn’t just strike down this law. It ruled that the law is unconstitutional on its face. That means that, if the Fifth Circuit’s decision is upheld by the Supreme Court, this federal ban on firearm possession by domestic abusers may never be applied to any individual, no matter how violent that individual may be and no matter how careful the court that issued a restraining order against such an individual was in ensuring that they received due process."
This makes total sense.

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2023, 07:20:40 AM »
In a different time maybe the guy would have been committed. Difficult to do today.

Reports indicate he was committed this summer.

https://news.yahoo.com/robert-card-know-person-interest-070858379.html

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2023, 07:32:43 AM »
This makes total sense.
It's really just taking Ziggy's Maxim of "We can't have new guns laws because criminals will just ignore them" one step further.

Now, "we can't have existing laws because extreme right-wing zealots say so".
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2023, 07:36:05 AM »
Our dentists must feel validated in refusing to step foot in dangerous inner cities like Highland Park, Newtown, Uvalde and Lewiston.
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2023, 07:37:00 AM »
Our dentists must feel validated in refusing to step foot in dangerous inner cities like Highland Park, Newtown, Uvalde and Lewiston.
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2023, 07:37:57 AM »
I’m appalled at the lack of thoughts and prayers being offered up. We all know the impact that can have on our current problems.  Why the silence?

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2023, 07:49:34 AM »
Our dentists must feel validated in refusing to step foot in dangerous inner cities like Highland Park, Newtown, Uvalde and Lewiston.



Crazy folks are present everywhere, even Charlotte, aina?
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2023, 07:54:45 AM »
I’m appalled at the lack of thoughts and prayers being offered up. We all know the impact that can have on our current problems.  Why the silence?

What would Jesus do?  Probably buy a Glock
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

Uncle Rico

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2023, 07:56:12 AM »


Crazy folks are present everywhere, even Charlotte, aina?

Access to mental health care in America, like dental care isn’t for everyone, aina?  Just the folks that can afford it
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2023, 08:04:27 AM »
Access to mental health care in America, like dental care isn’t for everyone, aina?  Just the folks that can afford it

Yes. This guy wanted mental health care but didn’t have the ends. Totally what this is all about.

Some crazy people do bad things. When the signs are clear, we should lock em up.
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2023, 08:05:55 AM »
Yes. This guy wanted mental health care but didn’t have the ends. Totally what this is all about.

Some crazy people do bad things. When the signs are clear, we should lock em up.

What do clear signs look like? Did he display them?
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2023, 08:06:39 AM »


Crazy folks are present everywhere, even Charlotte, aina?

Exactly! You're finally getting it, Doc, though it would have been better if you expanded it to "Crazy folks with easy, easy, easy access to as many guns as they want are present everywhere."

But hey, I'm sure the religious-zealot, election-denying, 2nd Amendment-worshipping new Speaker of the House will push for the kind of common-sense, gun-safety laws that 80%+ of Americans say they want, nu?
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TSmith34, Inc.

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2023, 08:09:48 AM »
Apparently mental health issues are uniquely American.
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2023, 08:12:05 AM »
Apparently mental health issues are uniquely American.

Because of China and Tik Tok.
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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2023, 08:13:39 AM »
Yes. This guy wanted mental health care but didn’t have the ends. Totally what this is all about.

Some crazy people do bad things. When the signs are clear, we should lock em up.

Lock em up for what? And where? And for how long? And at what cost? And who's paying?

Wouldn't it be simpler, cheaper and more effective to not allow crazy people easy access to guns?

TSmith34, Inc.

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Re: Lewiston shooting
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2023, 08:16:25 AM »
Yes. This guy wanted mental health care but didn’t have the ends. Totally what this is all about.

Some crazy people do bad things. When the signs are clear, we should lock em up.

Confirmed that he had severe mental health issues and should have been locked up.

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-card-maine-mass-shooting-social-media-posts-1838068
His "liked" tweets include content published by Donald Trump Jnr., Tucker Carlson and Dinesh D'Souza. He also liked tweets by former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan, according to the screenshots.

Another tweet he liked, from Tucker Carlson, regarding the same subject, reads: "The trans movement, it turns out, is the mirror image of Christianity, and therefore its natural enemy. People who believe they're God can't stand to be reminded that they're not."

He also liked a post from Dinesh D'Souza about banning assault weapons...

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