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rgoode57

DePaul has likely reached the point where it is difficult to attract a proven high-major coach like Chris Mack. They are probably in the area now where you have to take a chance on a guy who has been coaching at a mid-major. But, that can work out really well sometimes - i.e. Dennis Gates at Missouri. But, they first have to make up their minds to actually try to improve the program.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 18, 2023, 11:44:09 AM

Moser won't leave Oklahoma for DePaul.

1 or 2 rich alumni willing to double his pay would probably do it. All it takes is selling 1 or 2, like when people thought we couldn't afford Wojo's buyout. Wouldn't have to be Moser exactly though, just someone of that ilk (who doesn't rely on recruiting success to have success, implements a system that lower rated guys can grow into over time). Which I guess begs the question of why this mythical DePaul alum(ni) hasn't done something like that yet. I'm talking selfishly here, I live walking distance from Wintrust and would kill to have some decent convenient local hoops option but that place is a morgue currently, very depressing. And for the sake of long-suffering DePaul fans I know (yes they exist lol!) I just want to see them in the tournament at least once this generation. They're going nowhere fast though, gotta cut bait with the current regime.

cheebs09

I could see Wardle being a candidate.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 18, 2023, 01:23:14 PM
I could see Wardle being a candidate.

He's lost 4 straight, including a home loss to Cleveland State.

Now, I'd love to see him there and go 2-0 against Marquette just to read Willie's posts
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Dr. Blackheart

Weren't Gates and Moser candidates when Stub was hired? They both ran for the hills, iirc.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 18, 2023, 01:42:11 PM
Weren't Gates and Moser candidates when Stub was hired? They both ran for the hills, iirc.

were they offered the peanuts package Stubbs got (with commensurate returns on their being so cheap)?

Newsdreams

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 18, 2023, 01:23:14 PM
I could see Wardle being a candidate.
Wut, he is waiting for Shaka to leave.
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MUDPT

Josh Schertz (Indiana State coach) makes sense for DePaul.

The Sultan

Quote from: MUDPT on December 18, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
Josh Schertz (Indiana State coach) makes sense for DePaul.

Or Rashon Bruno at NIU.
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wadesworld

Quote from: rgoode57 on December 18, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
DePaul has likely reached the point where it is difficult to attract a proven high-major coach like Chris Mack. They are probably in the area now where you have to take a chance on a guy who has been coaching at a mid-major. But, that can work out really well sometimes - i.e. Dennis Gates at Missouri. But, they first have to make up their minds to actually try to improve the program.

This is exactly it.  They shouldn't be thinking about "being serious about competing."  There are steps.  They need to be serious about not being absolute garbage, and about injecting some energy into the program.  Crean isn't the guy, but what Crean was when he was hired by MU is what they should be looking for.  A young energetic salesman.  Someone who worked as an assistant at a successful power 5 program and then has had some success at the mid or low major level as a head coach.

asdfasdf

Quote from: MUDPT on December 18, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
Josh Schertz (Indiana State coach) makes sense for DePaul.

I like Schertz a lot, but I don't think DePaul makes sense for him. Not sure why he would sell himself short like that.

The Equalizer

Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2023, 03:25:29 PM
This is exactly it.  They shouldn't be thinking about "being serious about competing."  There are steps.  They need to be serious about not being absolute garbage, and about injecting some energy into the program.  Crean isn't the guy, but what Crean was when he was hired by MU is what they should be looking for.  A young energetic salesman.  Someone who worked as an assistant at a successful power 5 program and then has had some success at the mid or low major level as a head coach.

I think that's what they thought they were getting with Stubblefield--maybe not the young part, but he was viewed as a successful assistant and recruiting whiz for Dana Altman at Oregon.


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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2023, 03:25:29 PM
This is exactly it.  They shouldn't be thinking about "being serious about competing."  There are steps.  They need to be serious about not being absolute garbage, and about injecting some energy into the program.  Crean isn't the guy, but what Crean was when he was hired by MU is what they should be looking for.  A young energetic salesman.  Someone who worked as an assistant at a successful power 5 program and then has had some success at the mid or low major level as a head coach.
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I respectfully disagree. They need an actual head coach and W's not a shot in the dark on a cheap assistant that has salesman traits. Wins would be such a shock to the system that they'd sell themselves

The Sultan

Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on December 18, 2023, 07:46:33 PM
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I respectfully disagree. They need an actual head coach and W's not a shot in the dark on a cheap assistant that has salesman traits. Wins would be such a shock to the system that they'd sell themselves

A young, energetic mid-major coach. They aren't going to get a seasoned coach unless it's a Wainright or Purnell type.
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Daniel

You would think that the nations largest catholic university would have some draw for a head coach.  But their basketball has been so marginal for decades that there is that legacy to deal with.   

Duke, a private school also has about 17500 students.  DePaul n th8nknis around 24,000.   But who wants to coach there?!

wadesworld

Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on December 18, 2023, 07:46:33 PM
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I respectfully disagree. They need an actual head coach and W's not a shot in the dark on a cheap assistant that has salesman traits. Wins would be such a shock to the system that they'd sell themselves

Of course that'd be ideal. I just don't think any proven coach is even answering that phone call.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 17, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Tom Crean, your table is ready.

1. Unemployed for 2 seasons
2. Total failure at his last position (.208 conference winning % in his tenure, 1-17 his final season).
3. Turns 58 in March

Checks all the boxes.

Mu8891

Crean has not been good for quite a while.... But he'd be better than the clown they currently have...

Duh Paul will lose 20+ games this year

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Mu8891 on December 18, 2023, 08:36:25 PM
Crean has not been good for quite a while.... But he'd be better than the clown they currently have...

Duh Paul will lose 20+ games this year

20??? Big deal. The last team that TC coached lost 26 at the University of Georgia. The worst record (6-26) and most losses in the school's history. Maybe he could set a similar record at DePaul - based on his trajectory it's certainly possible.

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Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 18, 2023, 08:49:51 PM
20??? Big deal. The last team that TC coached lost 26 at the University of Georgia. The worst record (6-26) and most losses in the school's history. Maybe he could set a similar record at DePaul - based on his trajectory it's certainly possible.

Cool! If DePaul cannot win games, let's see if they can find a coach who can lose all the games. Ewing showed the way in conference play '21-22'. I bet they could do it with half way decent non con opponents.

OK....agree that Crean is not the guy to resurrect DP. If they really want to become relevant, they will have to do it in stages, starting with a mid-major coach. Even with immediate transfers and probably upgrading to a coach from a major conference, the process could easily take 5 years or more.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2023, 08:28:17 PM
Of course that'd be ideal. I just don't think any proven coach is even answering that phone call.

I mean like a Dennis Gates coming out of Cleveland State with actual proven head coaching success looking for a power conference shot not a career assistant like Wojo or Stubbs, even if he's an energetic salesman

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