Most Disappointing MU Recruits Ever

[BrewCity83]

Terry Reason and Vic Lazretti were both dumped from scholly by Rick Majerus.  Hard to know what they would have done, although Vic was a high school teammate of Terry Kotter's and probably why he was recruited.
Reason had a nice head of 'jerry curls'.

I'll agree with Reason being a disappointment.  IIRC he was the #3 scorer in California prep history, but I don't know if he ever cracked the starting lineup here.  He flashed some talent, but didn't really even get much court time.

Does anyone know why Rick pulled those schollies?

[pbiflyer]

Marquette called me to utilize a scholarship at Marquette  that I wasn't intending on using. Before that, I was only vaguely aware of Marquette and truly could not have told you with 100% where it was. I ended up going, so Marquette recruited me.
Pretty sure I can find a ton of people that would claim I was the most disappointing recruit ever, including the person that made the original call. 

[Badgerhater]

Bart Miller had a great high school career in Kentucky.

https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/bart_miller

At Marquette he excelled in the classroom like no other, but rarely saw the court.

It was recruiting misses like this one that helped Mike Deane out the door.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Doc Rivers was disappointing as a college player.

[Lennys Tap]

Doc Rivers was disappointing as a college player.

That's a fact. He was (and still is) the highest rated recruit in MU history (consensus top 5). He was great at driving the ball but wasn't a good shooter. Teams packed it in against us and he/we would usually struggle.

[Nukem2]

That's a fact. He was (and still is) the highest rated recruit in MU history (consensus top 5). He was great at driving the ball but wasn't a good shooter. Teams packed it in against us and he/we would usually struggle.

He was disappointing to some degree. Though he did average 14 ppg and almost 5 apg over 3 seasons as a starter. Also, to be be fair, he was not exactly surrounded by efficient outside shooters either.

[Hards Alumni]

I'm amazed that Joey Hauser doesn't get more flack.

Single handedly dismantled a preseason top 10 team and got his coach fired.

Now some guys were disappointing, but Joey was Hiroshima, no?

[4everwarriors]

Nah, Woj got his own ass chit canned. Cat didn't have a clue, aina?

[tower912]

Joey had an adequate freshman year. 

[Scoop Snoop]

Nah, Woj got his own ass chit canned. Cat didn't have a clue, aina?

Yep. Joey was just the icing on the cake.

[The Lens]

Nah, Woj got his own ass chit canned. Cat didn't have a clue, aina?

MU would have been a hell of a team sans Joey but Wojo couldn't read the room.  He should have let Joey go to MSU and let Brendan Bailey cook.  We still would have been a top 10 team.  Wojo never knew how to put the pieces together.  That's the price you pay for 15 years of sitting on the bench next to a guy who only recruited, rarely coached.     

[Goose]

PRN and Lenny

I completed agree on Doc being a disappointment. He had his moments, but definitely nowhere near the player I had hoped he would be at MU.

[MUfan12]

MU would have been a hell of a team sans Joey but Wojo couldn't read the room.  He should have let Joey go to MSU and let Brendan Bailey cook.  We still would have been a top 10 team.  Wojo never knew how to put the pieces together.

Did we watch the same Brendan Bailey?

[The Lens]

Did we watch the same Brendan Bailey?

People forget he started over Joey in game 1. But lol, you're probably right.I'm

[swoopem]

Did we watch the same Brendan Bailey?

All time MU great, Brendan Bailey

[MU82]

Now some guys were disappointing, but Joey was Hiroshima, no?

Yep. He disappointed at Michigan State, too.

Joey had an adequate freshman year. 

Yep. It was his best season until he was a fifth-year senior under a Hall of Fame coach.

[MU82]

I completed agree on Doc being a disappointment. He had his moments, but definitely nowhere near the player I had hoped he would be at MU.

Kind of like with Ellenson, "disappointment" is relative when it comes to Rivers. He didn't have the kind of Marquette career that his ratings and talent suggested he would have ... but he wasn't Lloyd Moore or Harry Froling or some of the other ballyhooed catastrophes that have been mentioned by other Scoopers.

Rivers was often very good - just not consistently good enough given his talent.

I admit that it's hard for me to be overly critical of a guy who made my favorite shot by a Warrior during my time at Marquette. Personally, I've never heard a louder MU home-court reaction than when Glenn tossed in that 35-footer to beat evil ND. Not to mention that he was a great kid back then and has been a great ambassador for MU since.

[The Lens]

Kind of like with Ellenson, "disappointment" is relative when it comes to Rivers. He didn't have the kind of Marquette career that his ratings and talent suggested he would have ... but he wasn't Lloyd Moore or Harry Froling or some of the other ballyhooed catastrophes that have been mentioned by other Scoopers.

Rivers was often very good - just not consistently good enough given his talent.

I admit that it's hard for me to be overly critical of a guy who made my favorite shot by a Warrior during my time at Marquette. Personally, I've never heard a louder MU home-court reaction than when Glenn tossed in that 35-footer to beat evil ND. Not to mention that he was a great kid back then and has been a great ambassador for MU since.

This is why Henry Ellenson is so high up on the disappointment rankings.

No moment and no engagement since. 

It just felt dirty.

[HutchwasClutch]

This is why Henry Ellenson is so high up on the disappointment rankings.

No moment and no engagement since. 

It just felt dirty.

You bet, dirty. Filthy.  Like that win in Madison in Ryan's second to last game. The school we all love to hate would have rolled us without him.  I'd give it all back to feel pure and clean again. 

And right, no moment either.  Sticking it to the Kohl Center riding him all day and hitting big buckets with a W out of it. Yuck. 

[PJDunn]

Doc's problem was the disastrous team dynamics during the '82/'83 season. He had some culpability in that implosion, but the coaching staff led by the often drunk and always deaf Hank Raymonds carried the bulk of the blame.

[Lennys Tap]

Kind of like with Ellenson, "disappointment" is relative when it comes to Rivers. He didn't have the kind of Marquette career that his ratings and talent suggested he would have ... but he wasn't Lloyd Moore or Harry Froling or some of the other ballyhooed catastrophes that have been mentioned by other Scoopers.

Rivers was often very good - just not consistently good enough given his talent.

I admit that it's hard for me to be overly critical of a guy who made my favorite shot by a Warrior during my time at Marquette. Personally, I've never heard a louder MU home-court reaction than when Glenn tossed in that 35-footer to beat evil ND. Not to mention that he was a great kid back then and has been a great ambassador for MU since.

Mike
I respect the fact that you have a personal history with Doc  that includes pleasant memories on and off the court. And he was/is a great guy. But he remains the most highly rated (consensus top 5) player ever to wear a  Marquette uniform and his three years here were mostly disappointing. The team didn't do much and his numbers weren't great.

I won't list all the forwards and centers who were better at MU than Doc - I'll stick to apples to apples comparisons. IMO The following guards had better careers at MU:
Meminger, Butch Lee, Tatum, Lloyd Walton, Wardle, Hutchins, Tony Miller, McNeal, James, Tony Smith, Worthen, Diener, Wade, DJO, Vander, Howard and Kolek. And almost all of these guys weren't just better individually - they led their teams to more success than Doc did.

Doc was going to be the guy who returned MU to the top echelon of college basketball after a brief hiatus. It never happened. We didn't come close and his numbers were only OK. So much was expected, so little was realized - And shortly thereafter the bottom fell out. Fairly or not, for that reason he's my pick as our most disappointing recruit ever.

[MU82]

Mike
I respect the fact that you have a personal history with Doc  that includes pleasant memories on and off the court. And he was/is a great guy. But he remains the most highly rated (consensus top 5) player ever to wear a  Marquette uniform and his three years here were mostly disappointing. The team didn't do much and his numbers weren't great.

I won't list all the forwards and centers who were better at MU than Doc - I'll stick to apples to apples comparisons. IMO The following guards had better careers at MU:
Meminger, Butch Lee, Tatum, Lloyd Walton, Wardle, Hutchins, Tony Miller, McNeal, James, Tony Smith, Worthen, Diener, Wade, DJO, Vander, Howard and Kolek. And almost all of these guys weren't just better individually - they led their teams to more success than Doc did.

Doc was going to be the guy who returned MU to the top echelon of college basketball after a brief hiatus. It never happened. We didn't come close and his numbers were only OK. So much was expected, so little was realized - And shortly thereafter the bottom fell out. Fairly or not, for that reason he's my pick as our most disappointing recruit ever.

Reasonable argument, Tony.

When I think of "most disappointing," I think of a hyped recruit who was a total bust. But I totally get where you're coming from.

[BrewCity83]

I admit that it's hard for me to be overly critical of a guy who made my favorite shot by a Warrior during my time at Marquette. Personally, I've never heard a louder MU home-court reaction than when Glenn tossed in that 35-footer to beat evil ND. Not to mention that he was a great kid back then and has been a great ambassador for MU since.

We share this perspective completely.

[cheebs09]

This is why Henry Ellenson is so high up on the disappointment rankings.

No moment and no engagement since. 

It just felt dirty.

He's been back a few times. I remember seeing him behind the bench his rookie year.

[Friends call me Shaka]

Corey Floyd was the downfall of dukiet