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tower912

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 10, 2023, 03:02:34 PM
The fans who wanted to watch their favorite team!
So, no actual damage.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Hards Alumni

Quote from: tower912 on August 10, 2023, 03:38:37 PM
So, no actual damage.

Maybe a kid without anything to do on a hot summer night somewhere in America could have turned on a basketball game and had a better night or become motivated or saw how fun it could be to play at Marquette.  I dunno, just spitballing.

If I was in Italy and I was there, I'd be able to stream it on my phone.  I don't need announcers or cut away shots.  Fun is fun!


Hards Alumni

Quote from: wadesworld on August 10, 2023, 03:04:50 PM
I think the fact that, of the top 1% of all fans (anyone who's posting on MUScoop falls in that category) maybe 10% of them have a problem with this probably shows that it's not much of a missed opportunity.

Run a poll if you're sure its 90/10  :P

Galway Eagle

#178
Does it boost engagement at minimal cost? Yes. That's all there is to it, there's literally no logical reason for people to be against it, you just wouldn't watch. I mean asking who was hurt? Nobody was hurt by MU not having a fantastic MySpace and Facebook presence before 2011, but they caught up and put out content to boost engagement. Is it obnoxious that Brew's on a crusade against the MU marketing team? Yes, but he has a valid point. 

In marketing, engagement is always a top KPI & good content boosts engagement. Whether they effectively marketed it as " reigning big east champs Marquette faces off against 'xyz' in exhibition match" on Reddit, or twitter/x or wherever is a potential opportune cost no different than not doing it at all but even if it was just a handful of scoopers that followed that's still very likely a worthwhile investment due to how easy streaming is.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 10, 2023, 05:23:07 PM
Does it boost engagement at minimal cost? Yes. That's all there is to it, there's literally no logical reason for people to be against it, you just wouldn't watch. Is it obnoxious that Brew's on a crusade against the MU marketing team? Yes, but he has a valid point. 

In marketing, engagement is always a top KPI & good content boosts engagement. Whether they effectively marketed it as " reigning big east champs Marquette faces off against 'xyz' in exhibition match" on Reddit, or twitter/x or wherever is a potential opportune cost no different than not doing it at all but even if it was just a handful of scoopers that followed that's still very likely a worthwhile investment due to how easy streaming is.

If the games were streamed I probably would have tried to watch as I'm psyched for this upcoming season.

But the impact on fan engagement and in general from not streaming is minimal, at best. It's not going to have any kind of significant impact on what matters to the program.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on August 10, 2023, 05:30:47 PM
If the games were streamed I probably would have tried to watch as I'm psyched for this upcoming season.

But the impact on fan engagement and in general from not streaming is minimal, at best. It's not going to have any kind of significant impact on what matters to the program.

Then why do they put out any content at all? It's practically zero investment, flip one person to buy a package of tickets and you're in the green.
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And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
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TallTitan34

Quote from: wadesworld on August 10, 2023, 03:04:50 PM
I think the fact that, of the top 1% of all fans (anyone who's posting on MUScoop falls in that category) maybe 10% of them have a problem with this probably shows that it's not much of a missed opportunity.

Yup. And that angry 0.1% will still be following every second of MU basketball.

The Sultan

It's absolutely fine. People need to stop whining.
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PGsHeroes32

More on topic.

How long are they there for and how many "non streamed" games are they playing? I imagine gotta be 1 or 2 more.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 10, 2023, 11:05:06 PM
It's absolutely fine. People need to stop whining.

It isn't whining.  It's low effort behavior from a high effort basketball school.

StillAWarrior

#185
Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 11, 2023, 06:22:19 AM
It isn't whining.  It's low effort behavior from a high effort basketball school.

Technically, it's whining about perceived low effort behavior from a high effort basketball school.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 11, 2023, 06:22:19 AM
It isn't whining.  It's low effort behavior from a high effort basketball school.

Oh it's whining. And do you really think them not streaming these games is about lack of "effort?"
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Lens

They posted upwards of 100 reels / stories / posts of heavily edited, well curated content and people are citing low effort. 

The games are an absolute side show and MU featured them appropriately.
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TallTitan34

Italy trip good for recruiting.

wadesworld

Norlander said more teams are choosing not to stream these things or even provide full box scores anymore, unlike they were a few years ago.

But it's just Marquette and their marketing department sucks.



brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on August 11, 2023, 11:57:24 AM
Norlander said more teams are choosing not to stream these things or even provide full box scores anymore, unlike they were a few years ago.

But it's just Marquette and their marketing department sucks.

As Jay Bee said, where's the evidence of that? UConn, Kansas, Xavier, Illinois, Creighton, and other have streamed games. Maryland is the only other one I'm aware of that hasn't and their fans are not pleased with said shortcoming.

But at least you are starting to acknowledge the University's shortcomings.
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The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 11, 2023, 01:29:50 PM
As Jay Bee said, where's the evidence of that? UConn, Kansas, Xavier, Illinois, Creighton, and other have streamed games. Maryland is the only other one I'm aware of that hasn't and their fans are not pleased with said shortcoming.

But at least you are starting to acknowledge the University's shortcomings.

It really doesn't matter what the other schools did. It's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.
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Jay Bee

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 11, 2023, 01:55:17 PM
It really doesn't matter what the other schools did. It's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

Wads was implying there was a move toward "our way". Nothing is a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but you're avoiding the question/topic.
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brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 11, 2023, 01:55:17 PM
It really doesn't matter what the other schools did. It's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

Grand scheme? No. But it's one more instance of Marquette falling short of what they have done in the past and what their peers are doing currently.
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withoutbias

Something tells me Cooper Flagg and Cameron Boozer had a sleepover in anticipation of watching MU today. When they couldn't find a stream to watch MU win by 40 they ruled MU out.

I hate this.

Jay Bee

Quote from: withoutbias on August 11, 2023, 02:41:20 PM
Something tells me Cooper Flagg and Cameron Boozer had a sleepover in anticipation of watching MU today. When they couldn't find a stream to watch MU win by 40 they ruled MU out.

I hate this.

Zero to do with elite recruits

It's a bit an an "eff u" to certain* fans

Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

withoutbias

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 11, 2023, 02:47:51 PM
Zero to do with elite recruits

It's a bit an an "eff u" to certain* fans

Oh no!  Not people who think they're more important than they actually are getting butthurt!

Jay Bee

Quote from: withoutbias on August 11, 2023, 02:51:06 PM
Oh no!  Not people who think they're more important than they actually are getting butthurt!

Let's set aside your homophobic comment, but... it's not about importance. It's acknowledging there are those who more deeply care for the program, or at least in a different way, such that you wouldn't go against the norm and not broadcast games
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

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