Open Practice

[rocky_warrior]

Here is the new bruiser.

"My dad can beat up your dad!" - I'd take that bet!

[The Sultan]

There was an investigation whether Izzo knew about Nassar?  It's not conceivable he didn't know anything about it being in the same athletic department for 20 yrs.  He's the face of the University. 

The Michigan State athletic department has a few hundred employees.

And the "face of the University" stuff isn't really relevant.

[Uncle Rico]

Theo and Greg Elliott were at the Open Gym today? Two guys who transferred out and who were not from Milwaukee prior to coming to Marquette. That's cool they're back.

Lowers my opinion of Shaka, TBH.  We don't want those guys around. 

[MuggsyB]

The Michigan State athletic department has a few hundred employees.

And the "face of the University" stuff isn't really relevant.

So you believe that in 20 years time Izzo hadn't heard a single thing about these crimes?  Nothing whatsoever?  I'm gonna go with a no on that one.

[Hards Alumni]

So you believe that in 20 years time Izzo hadn't heard a single thing about these crimes?  Nothing whatsoever?  I'm gonna go with a no on that one.

I hope you never sit on a jury.

[The Sultan]

So you believe that in 20 years time Izzo hadn't heard a single thing about these crimes?  Nothing whatsoever?  I'm gonna go with a no on that one.

I mean, I think that's why he got away with it as long as he did right?

[tower912]

You have wrong before.  You're wrong now. There is no documented instance of anyone approaching Izzo to complain about Nassar.

As opposed to Anderson at Michigan, Sandusky at Penn St, or Strauss at tOSU.

[MuggsyB]

I mean, I think that's why he got away with it as long as he did right?

He also made a ridiculously asinine statement after the victims told their stories about Nassar.  So tone deaf and absurd that many coaches would have been fired immediately.  I remember Aly Raisman's mom lit him up and rightly so.  I simply do not believe Izzo Fluffy.  I'm not saying he's guilty of covering up his crimes or anything but I don't find it plausible that he never heard a single word shout this scumbag.  And we know about the crimes of his players as well.  I frankly think the guy is a colossal asshead and used to respect the man. 

[Coleman]

Both MU diploma owners

There's this cool latin word for that called alumni

[MuggsyB]

You have wrong before.  You're wrong now. There is no documented instance of anyone approaching Izzo to complain about Nassar.

As opposed to Anderson at Michigan, Sandusky at Penn St, or Strauss at tOSU.

That's not what I stated or even implied. 

[Skatastrophy]

There's this cool latin word for that called alumni

Alumni means you attended a school whether you graduated or not. Just being pedantic.

[real chili 83]

He also made a ridiculously asinine statement after the victims told their stories about Nassar.  So tone deaf and absurd that many coaches would have been fired immediately.  I remember Aly Raisman's mom lit him up and rightly so.  I simply do not believe Izzo Fluffy.  I'm not saying he's guilty of covering up his crimes or anything but I don't find it plausible that he never heard a single word shout this scumbag.  And we know about the crimes of his players as well.  I frankly think the guy is a colossal asshead and used to respect the man.

Izzo is doomed!😱😱😱

[Its DJOver]

What a vicious series of attacks against someone that is innocent until proven guilty, unless we're no longer living in 'merica, I ain't no commie.

[MuggsyB]

What a vicious series of attacks against someone that is innocent until proven guilty, unless we're no longer living in 'merica, I ain't no commie.

Vicious?  I didn't accuse him of a crime.  Anyway, have a good day all. 

[JakeBarnes]

Here is the new bruiser.

Todd already has him on a 2-a-day lifting program.

[Its DJOver]

Vicious?  I didn't accuse him of a crime.  Anyway, have a good day all.

Scumbag? Colossal asshead?

Hmmmm.  For someone who appears to be pretty sensitive and quick to call others disagreeing "attacks", I would think you would be more courteous.

Anyway, have a good day.

[Viper]

He also made a ridiculously asinine statement after the victims told their stories about Nassar.  So tone deaf and absurd that many coaches would have been fired immediately.  I remember Aly Raisman's mom lit him up and rightly so.  I simply do not believe Izzo Fluffy.  I'm not saying he's guilty of covering up his crimes or anything but I don't find it plausible that he never heard a single word shout this scumbag.  And we know about the crimes of his players as well.  I frankly think the guy is a colossal asshead and used to respect the man.

you seem like a Jack Smith kinda guy. Just sayin'.

[onepost]

you seem like a Jack Smith kinda guy. Just sayin'.

Scoop in the offseason <<<<<

[Coleman]

Alumni means you attended a school whether you graduated or not. Just being pedantic.

Today I learned

[The Sultan]

He also made a ridiculously asinine statement after the victims told their stories about Nassar.  So tone deaf and absurd that many coaches would have been fired immediately.  I remember Aly Raisman's mom lit him up and rightly so.  I simply do not believe Izzo Fluffy.  I'm not saying he's guilty of covering up his crimes or anything but I don't find it plausible that he never heard a single word shout this scumbag.  And we know about the crimes of his players as well.  I frankly think the guy is a colossal asshead and used to respect the man. 

I'm sure your opinion of him keeps him up at night.

[MUCam]

If Muggsy only did not mean to be taken seriously, he'd be the quintessential example of hyperbole.

Izzo's first statement about Nassar was poorly worded. But let's not make it something it is wasn't. To call it asinine, frankly, is asinine. He referred to the victims as courageous and acknowledged the damage caused. His misstep was in supporting leadership at MSU that allowed this to occur under their watch, including the leadership of Lou Ann Simon who for 30+ years was considered one of the better university presidents in America. Perhaps he should have held back and placed all focus on the victims.

We can talk about what the "perfect" off the cuff statement right after a basketball game was, especially after learning the institution love and have dedicated yourself to is not infallible. I don't know that there is a perfect statement in the face of such damage.

In the end, Izzo corrected himself and acknowledged his statements were less than ideal. Muggsy, on the other hand, and in the face of actual facts, has doubled down and extended his usage of outrageous adjectives against a man he has never met. This begs the question, who has shown real character here?

Like I said, doubling down on unsubstantiated personal opinion seems to be par for the course these days.

That's asinine!

PS. We should be wary of throwing stones from glass houses. Even when built on the foundation of shiny adjectives, like asinine, colossal, and absurd.

[MU82]

you seem like a Jack Smith kinda guy. Just sayin'.

Muggsy probably didn't speak personally to dozens of people who used to work for Nassar. Just sayin'.

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy probably didn't speak personally to dozens of people who used to work for Nassar. Just sayin'.

Muggsy isn't the only person who thinks Izzo is full of crap and an asshat.  Just sayin'.  And using strong language about someone is not a "vicious attack".  I don't care for the guy. 

[Viper]

Muggsy isn't the only person who thinks Izzo is full of crap and an asshat.  Just sayin'.  And using strong language about someone is not a "vicious attack".  I don't care for the guy.

so...you know Izzo personally? Just curious.

[MuggsyB]

so...you know Izzo personally? Just curious.

I don't know him personally but I'm entitled to render an opinion.