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HowardsWorld

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 27, 2024, 07:22:15 AM
That virtually locks us into Purdue's region. What I find interesting about that is no matter what I do, it ends up being a Maui repeat. I end up with three of Purdue, Tennessee, Marquette, and Kansas landing there. Yesterday, I finally thought I'd have Dayton in there, but Kansas couldn't go to the same region as Houston which sent them to Detroit. The final four Maui teams just feel linked.

I don't believe opening rounds sites have any correlation to regional sites. Even if Purdue doesn't get the overall 1 seed. Uconn would get Boston. Houston/Kansas would get Dallas. Purdue would get Detroit. Someone is going to get sent out to California from the east coast for the final #1 seed.

I also believe regional sites are based on the s curve as well meaning if Marquette is 7 and Tennessee is 8 Marquette would get Detroit and tennesse would get california. 

brewcity77

Quote from: HowardsWorld on January 27, 2024, 08:57:57 AM
I don't believe opening rounds sites have any correlation to regional sites. Even if Purdue doesn't get the overall 1 seed. Uconn would get Boston. Houston/Kansas would get Dallas. Purdue would get Detroit. Someone is going to get sent out to California from the east coast for the final #1 seed.

I also believe regional sites are based on the s curve as well meaning if Marquette is 7 and Tennessee is 8 Marquette would get Detroit and tennesse would get california.

The committee didn't adhere to the S-Curve like they said they would last year, and I'm guessing one of MU/KU/Tennessee ends up on the 3 line. In terms of proximity, all of them would likely have Detroit as their closest destination if Houston is the 1-seed in Dallas.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Detroit is the closest regional site for Purdue, Marquette, and Tennessee.

Detroit is the 2nd closest site for Kansas, but if Houston stays on the 1 seed line they will get Dallas and Kansas gets bumped elsewhere.

Purdue, Marquette, Kansas, and Tennessee are all competing for 1-3 seeds.  It's really a perfect storm that the Midwest Regional could have a 1, 2, and 3 seed that all played in Maui.

But no matter which bracket Marquette lands in, there are trade offs.  Marquette could end up out West and face Arizona, or face Houston in the South.

At this point, I'm just worried about Marquette playing well and letting the chips fall where they may.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 27, 2024, 09:34:54 AM
The committee didn't adhere to the S-Curve like they said they would last year, and I'm guessing one of MU/KU/Tennessee ends up on the 3 line. In terms of proximity, all of them would likely have Detroit as their closest destination if Houston is the 1-seed in Dallas.

There is a path for all of them to finish top 8 on the S-Curve, especially if Arizona keeps sliding.

Lots of season left to play.

brewcity77

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 27, 2024, 09:41:17 AM
There is a path for all of them to finish top 8 on the S-Curve, especially if Arizona keeps sliding.

Lots of season left to play.

There definitely is. The dividing line between 9/10 seems massive and Arizona could very well end up 9 at this rate.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 27, 2024, 09:58:31 AM
There definitely is. The dividing line between 9/10 seems massive and Arizona could very well end up 9 at this rate.

I agree about there being a big gap between 9 and 10.  The gap from 10 to 20 feels about the same as the gap from 9 to 10.

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Marquette is #8 in Joe Lunardi's S Curve Tonight and a 2 Seed

MU82

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 27, 2024, 09:38:38 AM
At this point, I'm just worried about Marquette playing well and letting the chips fall where they may.

Yep. It's all moot if we don't beat all the teams we should and win the pick'em games (like tonight's). I'm feeling good about it, though, especially if we can keep scrapping out wins for another week or two until our walking wounded are in full gear. It also sure would be nice to get at least 1 of UConn/@UConn/@Creighton; 2 would be incredible.

We've been getting a ton of national respect the last year-plus. If we take care of business, I'm confident we'll like where the chips fall.
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The Sultan

I think UConn looks like the best team to me. But this is a case where I think familiarity is going to help. We are going to play them two or three times before the tournament, and I think that generally helps the weaker of the two teams.
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brewcity77

Question for everyone. Would you rather be...

  • 2-seed in the Midwest with Purdue as the 1, or...
  • 1-seed in the West with Arizona as the 2
Those feel most likely if we land on those seed lines because of the seeding rules for the teams on the top two lines. Do we want to be closer to home with a more familiar but presumably better opponent, or further away with a less familiar but also presumably lower quality opponent?

Worth noting, it would be our first 1-seed. Also, the West plays into the East (Likely UConn as the 1) while the Midwest plays into the South (Likely Houston).

Its DJOver

Purdue would have to get past that pesky 16 seed to face us.
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Galway Eagle

2 seed Midwest. Two years in a row we've played them down to the wire and this past year they were unbelievably lucky they hit that half court shot and cam missed the tying shot. Would love to see our guys get a crack at them.
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DoctorV

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2024, 09:07:00 AM
Question for everyone. Would you rather be...

  • 2-seed in the Midwest with Purdue as the 1, or...
  • 1-seed in the West with Arizona as the 2
Those feel most likely if we land on those seed lines because of the seeding rules for the teams on the top two lines. Do we want to be closer to home with a more familiar but presumably better opponent, or further away with a less familiar but also presumably lower quality opponent?

Worth noting, it would be our first 1-seed. Also, the West plays into the East (Likely UConn as the 1) while the Midwest plays into the South (Likely Houston).

That one is easy for me.

1 seed out West.

That would mean that Marquette has won or split a BE regular season title with UConn and/or won the BET.

It would also mean further travel for supporters, but an easier road to travel for a Final Four. Give me the easier road all day any day in a season like this and the travel becomes secondary imo.

That said, 1 seed seems like a tall tale with very little room for error. Win today, win the next 4, and head to UConn at 19-5, 10-2 and then I'll start buying into its merits.

It's not that I'm not bullish about this years team, it just seems tough to go 9-2 over the next 11 to make it a possibility. Wilder things have happened though, so I'm here for it.

CountryRoads

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2024, 09:07:00 AM
Question for everyone. Would you rather be...

  • 2-seed in the Midwest with Purdue as the 1, or...
  • 1-seed in the West with Arizona as the 2
Those feel most likely if we land on those seed lines because of the seeding rules for the teams on the top two lines. Do we want to be closer to home with a more familiar but presumably better opponent, or further away with a less familiar but also presumably lower quality opponent?

Worth noting, it would be our first 1-seed. Also, the West plays into the East (Likely UConn as the 1) while the Midwest plays into the South (Likely Houston).

I'd take either obviously since it meant we were in the E8 if we had to worry about those teams, but I'd slightly prefer the bracket with Arizona as I think there'd be a better chance we wouldn't have to face them anyway. It's a toss up though for me with regards to a matchup with Purdue or Arizona. I don't think location makes a difference, though I'd likely attend the game if in the Midwest, so that'd be cool.

MU82

Having our first two rounds in Indy and next two in Detroit certainly would be great, as it would bring lots of Marquette fans to our games. On the other hand, being a 1 seed would be awesome, and it will have meant some extraordinary things will have been accomplished over the next 6-7 weeks.

But if those are my only two options, I think I'm talking myself into the Midwest scenario. The NCAAT just matters more to me in 2024 than winning another Big East title ... though I know that if we're in serious contention for that I'll be rooting like crazy for it in the moment.

Bottom line, though: Either would be fine because I think we'd have a great chance to emerge victorious in either.

Quote from: Its DJOver on January 30, 2024, 09:09:27 AM
Purdue would have to get past that pesky 16 seed to face us.

Didn't need to be in teal.
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Viper

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2024, 09:07:00 AM
Question for everyone. Would you rather be...

  • 2-seed in the Midwest with Purdue as the 1, or...
  • 1-seed in the West with Arizona as the 2
Those feel most likely if we land on those seed lines because of the seeding rules for the teams on the top two lines. Do we want to be closer to home with a more familiar but presumably better opponent, or further away with a less familiar but also presumably lower quality opponent?

Worth noting, it would be our first 1-seed. Also, the West plays into the East (Likely UConn as the 1) while the Midwest plays into the South (Likely Houston).
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The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 30, 2024, 09:11:40 AM
2 seed Midwest. Two years in a row we've played them down to the wire and this past year they were unbelievably lucky they hit that half court shot and cam missed the tying shot. Would love to see our guys get a crack at them.

Plus they'd likely lose before the E8.
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FairWeatherEagle

We only get a 1 if we only lose 1 more. We were the top rated 4 loss team and now the top 5 loss... So we get respect but I can't see us at 7 losses even if it is UConnx2, Purdue, UW and those other three guys.

wadesworld

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 30, 2024, 06:26:51 PM
We only get a 1 if we only lose 1 more. We were the top rated 4 loss team and now the top 5 loss... So we get respect but I can't see us at 7 losses even if it is UConnx2, Purdue, UW and those other three guys.

Everyone is losing games. There will almost certainly be a 7 loss 1 seed.

The Thing

Not sure I agree. Not looking it up but I do not recall a lot of 7 loss teams as 1 seeds?

BM1090

Kansas lost 7 last year. Not sure before that.

The Thing

Interestingly, the last time before that was a 7 loss Kansas team in 2018. I don't think 7 losses is going to get Marquette a 1 this year. 6 could do it though.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Thing on January 30, 2024, 11:36:14 PM
Interestingly, the last time before that was a 7 loss Kansas team in 2018. I don't think 7 losses is going to get Marquette a 1 this year. 6 could do it though.

I am willing to be any sum of money we end up with a 1 seed if we only lose 1 more game.

Sh it that almost guarantees we beat Uconn twice. At minimum 4 more Q1 wins. Probably 6 when factor in logical Garden opponents.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

DoctorV

Quote from: The Thing on January 30, 2024, 11:36:14 PM
Interestingly, the last time before that was a 7 loss Kansas team in 2018. I don't think 7 losses is going to get Marquette a 1 this year. 6 could do it though.

Could be Kansas again with 7 losses.

7 of their 10 remaining games are against top 25 teams.

Currently have 4 losses.
8-2 in the next 10 and a loss in the conf tourney gets them at 7 losses and probably a 1 seed.

MuggsyB

Quote from: DoctorV on January 30, 2024, 11:54:57 PM
Could be Kansas again with 7 losses.

7 of their 10 remaining games are against top 25 teams.

Currently have 4 losses.
8-2 in the next 10 and a loss in the conf tourney gets them at 7 losses and probably a 1 seed.

If Houston wins at Kansas they would be in pretty good position for a #1 seed.  There are some massive games this weekend.  Wisky losing to both Nebraska and Purdue would be nice.  Imo Duke and UNC shouldn't even be in the discussion for a #1 seed.  Lots can change with 10 more games and the BEast tournament but again, Wisky getting punked twice would definitely be helpful. 

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