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Lennys Tap

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 24, 2023, 08:21:46 AM
Wasn't Buzz's motto Character Revealed?

Crean and Wojo have been nothing but complimentary of Marquette since they left.   Buzz couldn't wait to take shots the second he was out the door.  As was mentioned Buzz was the only one who didn't record a video for Barb's retirement. 

Character Revealed.

If Buzz is holding a grudge against MU for real or perceived grievances that reflects poorly on him. Same goes for some Scoopers attitude toward Buzz.

TallTitan34

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 24, 2023, 09:36:59 AM
If Buzz is holding a grudge against MU for real or perceived grievances that reflects poorly on him. Same goes for some Scoopers attitude toward Buzz.

I have more respect for Wojo than Buzz.  If that reflects poorly on me so be it.

jfp61

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 24, 2023, 09:41:35 AM
I have more respect for Wojo than Buzz.  If that reflects poorly on me so be it.
As a man, or as a coach?

I think, and most people would agree with you.

TallTitan34

Quote from: jfp61 on April 24, 2023, 09:46:50 AM
As a man, or as a coach?

I think, and most people would agree with you.

I'll give Buzz the nod on Xs and Os and that's it.

MUfan12

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 24, 2023, 08:21:46 AM
As was mentioned Buzz was the only one who didn't record a video for Barb's retirement. 

Character Revealed.

Definitely. Considering all the crap she has put up with from every coach, himself included, the fact he couldn't tape a 30 second video to congratulate her on retirement is telling.

It's the very lowest bar to clear. Doesn't have to be about MU at all. But he couldn't bring himself to do it. Sad.

🏀

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 24, 2023, 09:57:23 AM
Definitely. Considering all the crap she has put up with from every coach, himself included, the fact he couldn't tape a 30 second video to congratulate her on retirement is telling.

It's the very lowest bar to clear. Doesn't have to be about MU at all. But he couldn't bring himself to do it. Sad.

I'm sure she was one of his 180 letters that month.

real chili 83


tower912

Buzz is who he always was.   When he is winning for your team he is fun and quirky. When he isn't, he is annoying and self serving.     Just like an ex.
I moved on from all my exes.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

brewcity77

Quote from: MU82 on April 24, 2023, 11:05:59 AM
And, no doubt, all of your axes!

It's Scoop, we never move on from and axe that's there to grind.
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tower912

Quote from: MU82 on April 24, 2023, 11:05:59 AM
And, no doubt, all of your axes!
Instead of making holes in walls, I make holes in the sod/turf/grass.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dickthedribbler

During his 6 years as head coach at MU, Buzz went to more Sweet 16s (3) than Hank, Majerus, Dukiet, Kevin, Deane, Crean and Wojo did COMBINED in their tenures at Marquette.

Some of you guys who demand purity in your coaches are going to be disappointed more often than not. Buzz was hired to do 2 things------win lots of basketball games and keep the cash register ringing in the athletic department.  He did both.

While I wish that he would have kept his mouth shut as he was walking out the door, he checked off all of the boxes while he was here, IMO.

Goose

Buzz was the second best coach in MU history, IMO and Shaka will likely pass him. While I was disappointed on how his time at MU ended, such is life. I actually was amused by his quirks and found it to be entertaining. I have zero reason to have anything but positive feelings about Buzz and his time at MU.

tower912

I harbor no grudge toward Buzz.   I enjoyed him while he was at MU.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on April 24, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
During his 6 years as head coach at MU, Buzz went to more Sweet 16s (3) than Hank, Majerus, Dukiet, Kevin, Deane, Crean and Wojo did COMBINED in their tenures at Marquette.

Some of you guys who demand purity in your coaches are going to be disappointed more often than not. Buzz was hired to do 2 things------win lots of basketball games and keep the cash register ringing in the athletic department.  He did both.

While I wish that he would have kept his mouth shut as he was walking out the door, he checked off all of the boxes while he was here, IMO.

Hard to argue with that. 2011-13 was a fun time to be a Marquette hoops fan, and most saying otherwise now weren't saying boo back then.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

MUfan12

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on April 24, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
Some of you guys who demand purity in your coaches are going to be disappointed more often than not. Buzz was hired to do 2 things------win lots of basketball games and keep the cash register ringing in the athletic department.  He did both.

While I wish that he would have kept his mouth shut as he was walking out the door, he checked off all of the boxes while he was here, IMO.

There might only be two boxes elsewhere, but that's never how it has worked at MU.

I don't need purity, but I also don't need sexual assault cases involving the men's basketball program.

MU gave Buzz is big shot, and he gave us a nice run of success on the court. But you can't gloss over the other stuff completely. It was a black mark on his tenure here.

Viper

Quote from: Mu8891 on April 24, 2023, 09:07:43 AM
I'm glad Buzz is gone.  He had lots of on court success, but he was and is an arrogant jag.  And the teams off court issues should not be tolerated at MU ... and they weren't.

And ... yes... as for past coaches...
Crean and Wojo have been very complimentary of MU.  And KO and Deane showed up at the 100th and both said good things ( and stole the show )

Buzz has no character and is one of the most " fake " people I've ever met.
... How much time did you spend with Buzz? Sounds like you know him or spent a lot of time around him and the program?

Coleman

I loved Buzz. Didn't like the way he left but that was a fun ride when he was at MU. Some of my favorite players during his tenure too....Jae Crowder, JFB, Davante Gardner

I thought it was specific to Crean before, but I guess sour grapes over former MU coaches never stops

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

SonOfWarrior

Buzz's character was revealed into the latter half of his coaching tenure at Marquette.  He is all but a facade with a Buzz first mentality. 

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 24, 2023, 11:45:37 AM
I don't need purity, but I also don't need sexual assault cases involving the men's basketball program.


And Buzz's improper meddling into said cases.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Viper

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on April 24, 2023, 12:26:46 PM

And Buzz's improper meddling into said cases.
for those of us not aware of the facts around that, please share

Coleman


The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

"Improper meddling" is an over-statement.

Not appropriately carrying out his responsibilities as an employee during a Title IX investigation is more accurate.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

TallTitan34

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 24, 2023, 11:45:37 AM
There might only be two boxes elsewhere, but that's never how it has worked at MU.

I don't need purity, but I also don't need sexual assault cases involving the men's basketball program.

MU gave Buzz is big shot, and he gave us a nice run of success on the court. But you can't gloss over the other stuff completely. It was a black mark on his tenure here.

This.

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