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NickelDimer

Izzo didn't use the MU gameplan or what?
No Finish Line

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: We R Final Four on March 23, 2023, 07:32:54 PM
Well his decision making was the worst we have ever seen.....due to the hand? Probably not.

Yup.  If you can play you can play.

I'd guess MSU's tournament experience just showed through more than Marquette's (lack thereof).
VIOLENCE!

MuggsyB

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 23, 2023, 08:07:05 PM
KSU shot 56% with only 5 turnovers (!!!) in an overtime game (!) against Izzo.

What have I been saying for days DD about this Izzo worshipping nonsense?  We played a piss poor game.  It's really that simple.  Especially after going up 3 in the 2H.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 23, 2023, 09:35:18 AM
Other teams during the course of our 19 wins in 21 games played good defense.  I never said they didn't defend well.  What I am saying is our ineptitude was primarily self-inflicted.  The tape doesn't lie.  Watch the stretch after we went up 3 in the 2H.  And had like 6 possessions to extend it.  That was the game and we all know this is where we crapped the bed.  This is much, much, different than being outplayed and the main reason why it's so frustrating and upsetting.   Again, Mich St.  couldn't make an open three.

Just watched defensive genius Tom Izzy hold K State to 98 points and their PG to an NCAA record 19 assists.

Give credence to your theory that is was mostly us who stopped us, not the Spartans.


Silent Verbal

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2023, 07:36:35 PM
jesmu

MU 100% beat themselves on Sunday. Worst performance of the year for the team.

This is where I'm at.  Saying the loss was "50% MSU's defense and 40% Kolek's thumb injury" is not accurate, IMO.  We had a ten minute window in the second half where we could've taken control of the game, and instead played our worst 10 minutes of the season.  Nothing wrong with just admitting we played like crap. 

It was a phenomenal season, but it ended on a stinker.  We averaged 80 on the season and scored 60, and K-State had what, at least 80 in regulation against MSU?  The moment was just too big for us this year.  Let's hope next year is different.  I think it will be.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 23, 2023, 08:07:01 PM
I'm baffled that "Mr. March" couldn't draw up a play when he needed one?

Is that maybe because all the offense at the end of the last 2 games has been ISO with Hoggard or Walker

Great pass by Joey to setup Hall.  Gutsy leadership to share the ball with the season on the line.  Went out like he came in, team first guy
Guster is for Lovers

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
Show joeys family now.

Yeah. They didn't but should have. They only show them happy and smiling. I wonder how the other families feel about the announcers and camera crew totally obsessing over the Hausers while rarely featuring them. And of course, they just had to tell the Sam and Joey leaving Marquette story for the 113th time. Thank God that crap is now in the rear-view mirror.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 23, 2023, 08:07:01 PM
I'm baffled that "Mr. March" couldn't draw up a play when he needed one?

Is that maybe because all the offense at the end of the last 2 games has been ISO with Hoggard or Walker

I watch a lot of college basketball, and I've never heard "Mr. March" used until this year.  I'm not sure where it came from, but take solace in the fact that only a complete loser would call Tom Izzo that in real life conversation.

NickelDimer

Aside from Kolek, watching KSU really shows how bad our offensive gameplan was
No Finish Line

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 23, 2023, 08:13:10 PM
Yeah. They didn't but should have. They only show them happy and smiling. I wonder how the other families feel about the announcers and camera crew totally obsessing over the Hausers while rarely featuring them. And of course, they just had to tell the Sam and Joey leaving Marquette story for the 113th time. Thank God that crap is now in the rear-view mirror.

Have I got news for you
Guster is for Lovers

MUfan12

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2023, 08:15:05 PM
Aside from Kolek, watching KSU really shows how bad our offensive gameplan was

If Nowell played like Kolek did the results woulda been very similar.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2023, 08:11:23 PM
Just watched defensive genius Tom Izzy hold K State to 98 points and their PG to an NCAA record 19 assists.

Give credence to your theory that is was mostly us who stopped us, not the Spartans.

Lenny, I've stated many times that other Scoopers being in la-la-land is beyond my control.  I do my best to state the obvious. 

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 23, 2023, 08:02:10 PM
Zero reason to be happy as an MU fan right now.

Not "happy" but I gotta admit feeling good about the outcome. First time I saw Nowell and he was damn impressive. Had some head scratching moments at the end of regulation but made up for it.


Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 23, 2023, 08:04:35 PM
I don't have my bracket in front of me.....how many B14 teams are left?  Ty.


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CountryRoads

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 23, 2023, 08:17:42 PM
Lenny, I've stated many times that other Scoopers being in la-la-land is beyond my control.  I do my best to state the obvious.

MU gave away a great opportunity. I think during the Shaka era we'll feel that way if we lose in the tournament more often than not since we will regularly have good teams with a chance to go deep. This year we lost to an average team in a weak conference.

MuggsyB

Muss going after the refs down 25 with 2 mins to go seems silly. 

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Dish

I realize I'm beating a dead horse, tough to see two All American point guards play the same team in 4 days and see two drastically different stat lines.

7/18, 20 points, 19 assists, 2 turnovers
2/8, 7 points, 5 assists, 6 turnovers

Bad nights happen, is what it is, frustrating nonetheless.

MuggsyB

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2023, 08:23:21 PM
MU gave away a great opportunity. I think during the Shaka era we'll feel that way if we lose in the tournament more often than not since we will regularly have good teams with a chance to go deep. This year we lost to an average team in a weak conference.

It happens and it obviously sucks.  I just don't get this Izzo scheme analysis at all.

NickelDimer

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 23, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
I realize I'm beating a dead horse, tough to see two All American point guards play the same team in 4 days and see two drastically different stat lines.

7/18, 20 points, 19 assists, 2 turnovers
2/8, 7 points, 5 assists, 6 turnovers

Bad nights happen, is what it is, frustrating nonetheless.
Right there with you. Will haunt my offseason. Almost inconceivable we weren't at least in the group of 16
No Finish Line

panda

https://twitter.com/gwizzy12/status/1639077191064403968?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A

Mr march calling ksu lucky. I guess the brilliant strategy of containing a point guard doesn't work when they have two good hands.


jesmu84

Quote from: panda on March 23, 2023, 08:35:39 PM
https://twitter.com/gwizzy12/status/1639077191064403968?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A

Mr march calling ksu lucky. I guess the brilliant strategy of containing a point guard doesn't work when they have two good hands.

Such a good guy

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