Purdue V Bucky ...

[MuggsyB]

They aren't eliminated yet, but they needed to get this one to feel any comfort at all.

You mean they're in if they beat Minnesota,?  Uh.....no.

I would say they need three more wins minimum. 

[PGsHeroes32]

You mean they're in if they beat Minnesota,?  Uh.....no.

No, but they can win a game or two in B10 tourney and get in with the Minny win.

The minny win keeps them from being eliminated(sans BTT win)

[BM1090]

You mean they're in if they beat Minnesota,?  Uh.....no.

I would say they need three more wins minimum.

I don't think they are in if they beat Minnesota, but it keeps them alive.

Will be very interesting if they beat Minnesota this weekend and then again in the Big Ten Tournament then lose their second round game. 18-14 might be enough to get them into Dayton.

If they lose either of the games to Minnesota, they are done.

[MuggsyB]

No, but they can win a game or two in B10 tourney and get in with the Minny win.

The minny win keeps them from being eliminated(sans BTT win)

I suppose.  I could easily  see Minny punking them though. 

[MuggsyB]

I don't think they are in if they beat Minnesota, but it keeps them alive.

Will be very interesting if they beat Minnesota this weekend and then again in the Big Ten Tournament then lose their second round game. 18-14 might be enough to get them into Dayton.

If they lose either of the games to Minnesota, they are done.

Brew would have a better idea of the bubble teams that can put them to sleep.

[CountryRoads]

I suppose.  I could easily  see Minny punking them though. 

Badgers gain nothing from winning the game against Minnesota. It would only be the final nail in the coffin for an at large.

[GoldenEagles03]

No, but they can win a game or two in B10 tourney and get in with the Minny win.

The minny win keeps them from being eliminated(sans BTT win)

I think they automatically finish in the bottom 4 meaning they'll be 1 of 4 teams playing on day 1.

They probably have to play Minnesota back to back.

[Dickthedribbler]

16-13 ( 8-11) and tied for 11th place in the B10. Going into the Purdue game a NET of 75  and a current KenPom of 67.

What the he!! about that mess screams NCAA deserving. And equally how does beating one of the worst P5 teams in the country ( Minnesota) once, or even twice, improve that situation??.

[MuggsyB]

16-13 ( 8-11) and tied for 11th place in the B10. Going into the Purdue game a NET of 75  and a current KenPom of 67.

What the he!! about that mess screams NCAA deserving. And equally how does beating one of the worst P5 teams in the country ( Minnesota) once, or even twice, improve that situation??.

It doesn't dtd but a loss to Minny could introduce them to darkness with no hope whatsoever of making the dance. 

[Dickthedribbler]

It doesn't dtd but a loss to Minny could introduce them to darkness with no hope whatsoever of making the dance. 

I agree. But the Gophers are putrid, in spite of beating Rutgers tonight, so I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Minnesota win ( although it will be their Senior Night and the "Barn" reportedly has a bad shooting background and add to that maybe some tired Badger legs and an upset could be in the cards )

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).

I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in.  A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!

[mugrad_89]

I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).

I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in.  A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!

Literally no one is saying that beating St. John's tomorrow and then either them or Butler next Thursday will get us a 2 seed.  The only way a 2 is even in play is winning the BET.

[MuggsyB]

I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).

I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in.  A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!

TAMU,
If memory serves this is a Rodent team that was lucky to beat Minny in Madison.  So, essentially that win had to "help" them correct?  Had they lost (and they absolutely should have) they would be a 15-14 team and closer to 100 in the NET?  They wouldn't even be mentioned as a potential bubble team.  In their dismal existence beating Minnry meant something and as you said moving spots at their position in the S-Curve matters. 

Now, as far as MU passing teams to the 2 line after wins over Butler and DePaul?  I would say no.  That said by beating them we stay in a position which still give us the opportunity to pass these teams so the wins are vitally important.  Lastly, I'm not sold that Baylor or Kansas St. are 2 seed locks.  I do believe the committee will consider the medieval beat-down we showcased on Baylor which resulted in their worst loss in many, many, years.  What I'm saying is a 2 seed is in play for MU.  If we win out I'm quite confident we will get it .

[Heisenberg]

Gard has finished below 5th twice. He's been top 2 more than lower than 5th.

And at 8-11, Bucky is tied for 11th this year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Literally no one is saying that beating St. John's tomorrow and then either them or Butler next Thursday will get us a 2 seed.  The only way a 2 is even in play is winning the BET.

Maybe you aren't saying that but there are those who literally believe we are already a 2 seed (or at least believe that we have passed teams like Rexas, Baylor, and Arizona) and others who have said we only need to win 1 or 2 more to lock up a 2 seed.

[Dickthedribbler]

Who is saying all of these things. I guess I missed it.

[wadesworld]

Correct. Which has nothing to do with beating DePaul, Butler, and St. John's and everything to do with beating Xavier and addressing our one weakness (no high quality wins outside of FISERV) since the reveal was put together, as well as not taking any losses while teams above us have. Avoid the bad losses and a loss to UCONN/Creighton doesn't hurt us.

[mugrad_89]

It doesn't dtd but a loss to Minny could introduce them to darkness with no hope whatsoever of making the dance. 

Rooting for Dawson to drop 50 on Bucky!

[MuggsyB]

I wonder if Essigan will transfer?  He has a pretty high ceiling imo.  If I were him I'd bolt and get on a team that plays faster and in the open floor.  And I'm not just saying this because I hate Wisky. 

[Uncle Rico]

I wonder if Essigan will transfer?  He has a pretty high ceiling imo.  If I were him I'd bolt and get on a team that plays faster and in the open floor.  And I'm not just saying this because I hate Wisky.

He can't guard

[CountryRoads]

I wonder if Essigan will transfer?  He has a pretty high ceiling imo.  If I were him I'd bolt and get on a team that plays faster and in the open floor.  And I'm not just saying this because I hate Wisky.

That roster just needs a major upgrade in talent. Their rotation players include 2 preferred walkons, a UWGB transfer, and a player who was only recruited at that level because of his brother. That's just not going to get it done, which is why they are at the bottom of the big ten.

I'd be surprised if Essegian transfers but I think Hepburn leaves.

[MuggsyB]

He can't guard

True but he's potentially a very good scorer. 

[The Sultan]

Literally no one is saying that beating St. John's tomorrow and then either them or Butler next Thursday will get us a 2 seed.  The only way a 2 is even in play is winning the BET.

A week ago there were people saying if we win out the regular season, we may get a 2 seed even if we lose in the BET semis.

[MuggsyB]

That roster just needs a major upgrade in talent. Their rotation players include 2 preferred walkons, a UWGB transfer, and a player who was only recruited at that level because of his brother. That's just not going to get it done, which is why they are at the bottom of the big ten.


I'd be surprised if Essegian transfers but I think Hepburn leaves.

I actually like their three guards much better than I like their bigs. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

He can't guard

He's waiting on Wojo's landing spot, hey?