Bama/Oats/Miller

[MuggsyB]

Was gonna comment on this. so classless.

Oats is apparently on top of the situation.  Alabama continues to handle the situation with masterclass transparency and integrity. 

[panda]

Oats is apparently on top of the situation.  Alabama continues to handle the situation with masterclass transparency and integrity.

What is Brandon miller guilty of ?

[wadesworld]

What is Brandon miller guilty of ?

Bringing a loaded gun that ended up being used to murder someone to the scene of that murder.

[MurphysTillClose]

What is Brandon miller guilty of ?

Lol

[panda]

Bringing a loaded gun that ended up being used to murder someone to the scene of that murder.

Is returning a legal firearm to its owner a crime?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Is returning a legal firearm to its owner a crime?

You think you might want to consider context when determining the quality of his decision? Right now in this thread no one is discussing whether he broke the law.

[Newsdreams]

Is returning a legal firearm to its owner a crime?

I don't know Alabama laws, here if it isn't your gun is a felony.

[panda]

You think you might want to consider context when determining the quality of his decision? Right now in this thread no one is discussing whether he broke the law.

My interpretation is his teammate left his gun in miller's car. Miller found out he was in possession of it when miles told him to bring it to him and miller returned it.

Unbelievably unfortunate circumstances that miller will forever be intertwined with. I don't believe there's any wrongdoing on his part for returning a fire arm that he wasn't aware was in his car until the owner told him it was.


To clarify - oats handles this extremely poorly. He and miles are the ones blame/actions should be thrown at not miller.

[wadesworld]

My interpretation is his teammate left his gun in miller's car. Miller found out he was in possession of it when miles told him to bring it to him and miller returned it.

Unbelievably unfortunate circumstances that miller will forever be intertwined with. I don't believe there's any wrongdoing on his part for returning a fire arm that he wasn't aware was in his car until the owner told him it was.


To clarify - oats handles this extremely poorly. He and miles are the ones blame/actions should be thrown at not miller.

Lol.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

My interpretation is his teammate left his gun in miller's car. Miller found out he was in possession of it when miles told him to bring it to him and miller returned it.

Unbelievably unfortunate circumstances that miller will forever be intertwined with. I don't believe there's any wrongdoing on his part for returning a fire arm that he wasn't aware was in his car until the owner told him it was.


To clarify - oats handles this extremely poorly. He and miles are the ones blame/actions should be thrown at not miller.

At least we agree on Oats.

A likely NBA lottery pick used extremely poor judgment based on the circumstances. His decision contributed to a young woman's death.

The intro today was in extremely poor taste and I don't care if that has been how it's been done all season.

[Jay Bee]

"Hey I never cried about this 20x times before, but now I will and you should be in hell!!"

[Skatastrophy]

im defending a witness to a crime

I feel like they planned a crime together, given the conversation around "bring me my gun, this dude is trippin'" and the response of "okay it's in the back seat and there's one in the chamber."

[Newsdreams]

I feel like they planned a crime together, given the conversation around "bring me my gun, this dude is trippin'" and the response of "okay it's in the back seat and there's one in the chamber."

Never saw text, some random dude answered text.

[robmufan]

Bama is disgusting, nothing more needs to be said.

I get he might not legally be charged, but the blood of a woman is all over this program, no matter which way you spin it.

[cheebs09]

I feel like they planned a crime together, given the conversation around "bring me my gun, this dude is trippin'" and the response of "okay it's in the back seat and there's one in the chamber."

I thought the same guy sent those texts. I didn't think that was Miller's response. But I definitely could be wrong.

[wadesworld]

I thought the same guy sent those texts. I didn't think that was Miller's response. But I definitely could be wrong.

I believe that's right. Which means he shouldn't be going to jail. BUT it also means that Alabama athletics is just okay with its athletes driving around guns to each other, with the person asking for it making his intent relatively clear.

[Newsdreams]

I believe that's right. Which means he shouldn't be going to jail. BUT it also means that Alabama athletics is just okay with its athletes driving around guns to each other, with the person asking for it making his intent relatively clear.

He will get suit in civil court for most of his NBA money.

[BallBoy]

I believe that's right. Which means he shouldn't be going to jail. BUT it also means that Alabama athletics is just okay with its athletes driving around guns to each other, with the person asking for it making his intent relatively clear.

That is correct. The quote came from Miles to Davis. Not from Miller.

the initials reports made it sound like Miles texted Miller to bring his gun and Miller came with intent to deliver the gun.  It hasn't been shown whether Miller even knew he had it.

Later reports showed his intent was to pick  Miles up and he was already on his way. Miles gun just happened to be in the car.

https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/story/sports/college/basketball/2023/02/22/alabama-greg-byrne-darius-miles-brandon-miller-unaware-text-capital-murder-case/69934199007/

"The text message released (Tuesday) was when Brandon was going to pick him up, and was already almost there."

So here are the events as published so far.
1.  Miller gave Davis and Miles a ride to the bar
2.  Miles leaves his gun in the back of Miller's car
3. Miller goes to eat separately. miles and Davis go to bar
4.  While Miller was eating, Miles asks for Miller to come pick him up and take him elsewhere. miller says he will come later as he needs to drop someone off
5.  Miles texted Miller over a course of an hour to come get him.  Miller is in route to pick up Miles
6. Miles and David get into incident with Victims boyfriend
7. As Miller is almost there Miles texts him to bring gun.
8.  After Miller arrives, Miles gets his own gun.
9. Miles hands gun to Davis says heat is in the hat and one in the chamber.
10.  Davis shoots at victim's boyfriend and hits the victim.
11.  Boyfriend shoots Davis is shoulder and hits Millers car further up the street.
12.  Miller drives away. Undisclosed if he gave the ride to Miles and Davis.
13.  Boyfriend drives victim to a police car stationed nearby. She is deceased.
14. At apartments, Miles called police that Davis was shot but says boyfriend was aggressor.
15.  When confronted with tape, Miles changes story.
16.  Miller is contacted by police and he provides requested info.
17.  Police don't charge him.

I think the headline makes it sound like Millers involvement was more nefarious than it was.

[The Sultan]

Reading into this more, I really think it would have been best for Oats to sit Miller for a few games when they found out the particulars - not because he did anything particularly wrong, but because creating some space between the incident and when he played again would have been helpful. The truth helps Miller. Letting it come out how it did, and putting him on the floor, doesn't seem to be a good idea.

[rocket surgeon]

Reading into this more, I really think it would have been best for Oats to sit Miller for a few games when they found out the particulars - not because he did anything particularly wrong, but because creating some space between the incident and when he played again would have been helpful. The truth helps Miller. Letting it come out how it did, and putting him on the floor, doesn't seem to be a good idea.

  yes, i believe you are right here sully(gasp!!) but "just win baby" are 3 powerful words. 

i can imagine oats and the powers that be had to have rehearsed their logic because unless they are STUPID, they had to know the blow back would be immediate if not sooner

[connie]

Well, in fairness to Oats, he was probably way too busy "drawing up plays" to pay any attention to what members of his team were doing at the time. 

[The Sultan]

I think in the long run, having Miller sit for a bit would have been better for the player, coach and the team. Now he is the target of boos, Oats looks like a moron, and any deep run is going to be accompanied with "but..."  And all of this may prevent a deep run to begin with.

And the thing is, I can't really figure out how Oats got here. I'm good friends with a guy who played with him at Maranatha Baptist, and who still keeps in touch with him, and he can't be more effusive about what a good guy he is.

[rocket surgeon]

I think in the long run, having Miller sit for a bit would have been better for the player, coach and the team. Now he is the target of boos, Oats looks like a moron, and any deep run is going to be accompanied with "but..."  And all of this may prevent a deep run to begin with.

And the thing is, I can't really figure out how Oats got here. I'm good friends with a guy who played with him at Maranatha Baptist, and who still keeps in touch with him, and he can't be more effusive about what a good guy he is.

  good guy$ like to win too, e$pecially when  $pride$ is$ involved.  oh, and then there are the boo$ter$ who want to have a word/beer with you after the game

gee, i wonder how miller's legal fee$ are being paid...no i'm not

[The Sultan]

Probably through his NIL deal. And I doubt he has much in legal fees at this point.

[Uncle Rico]

  yes, i believe you are right here sully(gasp!!) but "just win baby" are 3 powerful words. 

i can imagine oats and the powers that be had to have rehearsed their logic because unless they are STUPID, they had to know the blow back would be immediate if not sooner

Miller did nothing wrong