#16 @ Ken Pom

[PGsHeroes32]

Byu sure as heck did not hold on

[BM1090]

Good think Marquette isn't visiting Storrs.

Oops

[BM1090]

Not sure who we passed (Missouri?), but MU is up to 3 in offensive efficiency

Up to 13th overall and 2nd in offensive efficiency, narrowly behind Purdue.

[Carl]

Byu sure as heck did not hold on

We were close enough that that we passed them by a nose anyway. #12

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We were close enough that that we passed them by a nose anyway. #12

12 ties our best KenPom rank since December 19, 2011, when a road loss to a bad LSU team knocked us from the top 10 to 14. We've reached 12 two other times since then:

First,  the very next game after that LSU debacle was a 14 point win over a solid (by buy game standards) UWM team which bumped us back up to 12. This was short-lived as a blowout loss at Vanderbilt knocked us out of the top 14 for the rest of the season (we hit 15 a few times). The team finished the season at 18.

The second, thanks to an overly optimistic preseason ranking of 18, two early wins over Loyola MD and Purdue got Wojo the number 12 ranking in Markus Howard's senior year. A blowout loss at Bucky ended that quickly and the team spent the majority of the season between 25 and 35, finishing at 31 without a BET or NCAAT.

I think Shaka breaks our streak of losing once we hit 12.

[JakeBarnes]

Up to 13th overall and 2nd in offensive efficiency, narrowly behind Purdue.

We passed Ohio State

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

12 ties our best KenPom rank since December 19, 2011, when a road loss to a bad LSU team knocked us from the top 10 to 14. We've reached 12 two other times since then:

First,  the very next game after that LSU debacle was a 14 point win over a solid (by buy game standards) UWM team which bumped us back up to 12. This was short-lived as a blowout loss at Vanderbilt knocked us out of the top 14 for the rest of the season (we hit 15 a few times). The team finished the season at 18.

The second, thanks to an overly optimistic preseason ranking of 18, two early wins over Loyola MD and Purdue got Wojo the number 12 ranking in Markus Howard's senior year. A blowout loss at Bucky ended that quickly and the team spent the majority of the season between 25 and 35, finishing at 31 without a BET or NCAAT.

I think Shaka breaks our streak of losing once we hit 12.

The Vanderbilt blowout loss was at home.  The previous year,  Marquette lost at Vanderbilt by 1 on a layup after Jae Crowder fell asleep on defense.

[Pepe Sylvia]

The Vanderbilt blowout loss was at home.  The previous year,  Marquette lost at Vanderbilt by 1 on a layup after Jae Crowder fell asleep on defense.

I bought my gf tickets to that Vandy game at home. Worst gift I've ever given anyone.

[MuMark]

Top 10 currently

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[GB Warrior]

Top 10 currently

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What does Kenpom say about the h2h with Xavier tomorrow?

[BM1090]

What does Kenpom say about the h2h with Xavier tomorrow?

85-83 Xavier.

[Carl]

You expect low numbers for the top teams in AdjO and AdjD but I find it a little interesting just how good the top 10 are on defense. Marquette is an outlier on defense compared to the rest of the top 10. Saint Mary's schedule at a glance doesn't seem to justify the gap between 9 and 10. Always curious about the math, more so this year because Marquette is just doing everything right. Seems like even a win tomorrow might not jump us to 9. It'll all shake out in the end. Couldn't be more pumped

[Mu8891]

UW ?  No. 65 in Kenpom ...

Hopefully they continue to lose and drop like a rock.

[Dickthedribbler]

UW ?  No. 65 in Kenpom ...

Hopefully they continue to lose and drop like a rock.

I smell what you're cookin', 8891.

[GoldenEagles03]

UW ?  No. 65 in Kenpom ...

Hopefully they continue to lose and drop like a rock.

Mississippi State is starting to look like a dumb loss too, but if we keep winning those losses won't matter.

I'm ok with UW losing the rest of their games.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Saint Mary's schedule at a glance doesn't seem to justify the gap between 9 and 10. Always curious about the math, more so this year because Marquette is just doing everything right.

Math is pretty easy in this case:

42 point win over #162 Portland
36 point win over #171 Vermont
30 point win over #63 North Texas
28 point win over #110 Hofstra
27 point win over #199 San Diego
20 point win over #135 Missouri State
14 point win over #102 Loyola Marymount
13 point win over #150 New Mexico State
12 point win over #146 Wyoming

The Gaels know how to kick the everliving shite out of solid mid-majors and have only lost close games. It's why they are top 10 in KenPom but only have 24 votes in the AP poll.

[cheebs09]

Mississippi State is starting to look like a dumb loss too, but if we keep winning those losses won't matter.

I'm ok with UW losing the rest of their games.

I might not be remembering correctly, but I feel like the committee has been more leaning towards rewarding big wins than penalizing bad losses. It feels like the avoiding bad losses hasn't mattered as much.

[GoldenEagles03]

I might not be remembering correctly, but I feel like the committee has been more leaning towards rewarding big wins than penalizing bad losses. It feels like the avoiding bad losses hasn't mattered as much.

I don't think UW or MSU will end up as bad losses, just dumb ones with how good we've shown to be and how unimpressive they both are.

I thought UW would be really solid this year after seeing them light up the Fiserv. I'd be happy with them faltering.

[DoctorV]

I don't think UW or MSU will end up as bad losses, just dumb ones with how good we've shown to be and how unimpressive they both are.

I thought UW would be really solid this year after seeing them light up the Fiserv. I'd be happy with them faltering.

Forget the quadrants for a second and take a step back

Both MSU and UW are good teams, or ant the very least good defensive teams that play an veeery slow tempo, and will still have a decent chance to make the tournament.

Mississippi st has lost 5 of their last 6 but everyone knew regression was coming.
Ditto with Wisconsin.
Miss St lost on the road to top 25 auburn 69-63 and covered the spread so that's not a bad loss.

If anything it shows what I said early on- this seasons non-con slate showed this years squads kryptonite- good defensive teams that play slow as hell.
Miss St, Purdue and UW all fit that mold.
Providence not so much, but that was an early conference game in a tough spot with a crazy outlier in FT points.

In the BE, Seton Hall actually fits that mold the most, so I'd actually expect a loss in Joisey.
16D in KenPom, 237 tempo. So not quite as slow as what has caused Marquette losses, but in that same mold as the tough D/slow pace. Nova also kinda fits with their slow arsed pace but MU already handled them on the road and I'd expect a home dub (although it won't be easy imo).

If you're thinking bigger picture...
Keep me away from
Houston, UCLA, Purdue, St Mary's, Virginia, Iowa St, Rutgers, Duke, OKSt, UCF, Dayton, NW, North Texas, etc.

Unfortunately, seems like there are a lot of this type of team out there, hopefully they don't end up in Marquettes path.

[Tha Hound]

Forget the quadrants for a second and take a step back

Both MSU and UW are good teams, or ant the very least good defensive teams that play an veeery slow tempo, and will still have a decent chance to make the tournament.

Mississippi st has lost 5 of their last 6 but everyone knew regression was coming.
Ditto with Wisconsin.
Miss St lost on the road to top 25 auburn 69-63 and covered the spread so that's not a bad loss.

If anything it shows what I said early on- this seasons non-con slate showed this years squads kryptonite- good defensive teams that play slow as hell.
Miss St, Purdue and UW all fit that mold.
Providence not so much, but that was an early conference game in a tough spot with a crazy outlier in FT points.

In the BE, Seton Hall actually fits that mold the most, so I'd actually expect a loss in Joisey.
16D in KenPom, 237 tempo. So not quite as slow as what has caused Marquette losses, but in that same mold as the tough D/slow pace. Nova also kinda fits with their slow arsed pace but MU already handled them on the road and I'd expect a home dub (although it won't be easy imo).

If you're thinking bigger picture...
Keep me away from
Houston, UCLA, Purdue, St Mary's, Virginia, Iowa St, Rutgers, Duke, OKSt, UCF, Dayton, NW, North Texas, etc.

Unfortunately, seems like there are a lot of this type of team out there, hopefully they don't end up in Marquettes path.

Hopefully Marquette doesn't end up in their path*

[MU82]

If we played Madison or Mississippi State today, we'd win either game handily. We're just better now, and they aren't.

I agree with Tha Hound's take -- we're gonna be a matchup problem that other team's aren't gonna want to face.