No va is Spanish for 'won't go'

[MU82]

Any open 3 point shot within the flow >>>>>>contested Jop 3.

Ive seen enough of the deep 3 from Jop with a guy in his face. Ill take Chase or Stevie or Ben or Sean to hit that open 3 instead.

We're all praising Shaka's work last night, but I'll pick one little nit: The last shot of the first half sucked.

We had plenty of time to set up something good, but we got a forced, deep 3 from Jop. Plus, he shot it so early that Nova had a decent shot to steal 3 points at the end of the half. Yuck.

[Goose]

82

I think that was just a stupid play by Joplin, but I could be wrong. It was a bad play/shot and way to early to shoot.

[BCHoopster]

Jop and even Sean Jones have to realize what is good shot and what is not.  Not surprising he threw it up, he is much better scorer when he hits that first shot.  What amazes me more is that he actually has zero hops.  Surprising

[The Sultan]

Jop and even Sean Jones have to realize what is good shot and what is not.  Not surprising he threw it up, he is much better scorer when he hits that first shot.  What amazes me more is that he actually has zero hops.  Surprising

He's not a great athlete.

[MU82]

82

I think that was just a stupid play by Joplin, but I could be wrong. It was a bad play/shot and way to early to shoot.

The head coach is the CEO, especially in late-game situations. If Shaka can't depend on Joplin to follow his instructions, then he made a mistake having him on the floor.

Shaka's great, but not above criticism.

[Goose]

82

If Shaka advised Joplin to take a quick shot with 5 seconds left in the half, then he deserves criticism. I am sure there will be plenty to criticize Shaka over the next decade.

[The Sultan]

The head coach is the CEO, especially in late-game situations. If Shaka can't depend on Joplin to follow his instructions, then he made a mistake having him on the floor.

Shaka's great, but not above criticism.

And you're just seeking reasons to be critical. Every coach makes calls during games that don't work out.

[wadesworld]

But Joplin once dunked on a wide open breakaway transition in practice. He has to be athletic.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1587490957896867843?t=x3X3xvz3C1c3WdU8zoICMw&s=19

Jop looks significantly more mobile. Hopefully that helps him on the defensive end. Seems as though being a vocal leader is something he's working on too. Excited for where he could get to with his game.

[mu35577]

I find it interesting , Whitmore had 10 pts in the first 6:30 min and 4 pts the rest of the game ! ! ! 

I was at the game and I don't think we are talking enough about O-Max's defense on Whitmore after the early flurry. It was very evident that Whitmore wanted to attack when he got the ball on the wing, but O-Max wouldn't budge. Stuck up on him and was strong when Whitmore tried to burst by. Yes, Neptune's decision to leave Whitmore on the bench late in second half was weird, but O-Max defense on him needs to praised more. White on rice.

[Jockey]

He's not a great athlete.

You're right. He needs to quit trying to create off the dribble. Just be a spot-up three point shooter.

[The Sultan]

You're right. He needs to quit trying to create off the dribble. Just be a spot-up three point shooter.

Actually I think its the opposite. He settles too much. He is big enough to bully his way to the basket at times. But the step back 3?  No bueno.

[Shooter McGavin]

Actually I think its the opposite. He settles too much. He is big enough to bully his way to the basket at times. But the step back 3?  No bueno.

Yep.  I think he has to perfect the old man YMCA game.  And take all open threes. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Actually I think its the opposite. He settles too much. He is big enough to bully his way to the basket at times. But the step back 3?  No bueno.

I wouldn't mind seeing some more post ups when the matchup is right vs him trying to create off the dribble.

[Goose]

Post Joplin up and let him score down low. He needs to use his body and create the shots in the paint. I know I am in the minority on this, but I really think he will be a scoring machine if he sticks around the basket. Maybe if Stevie can keep the defense honest, we will see more of Joplin down low.

[Tha Hound]

Post Joplin up and let him score down low. He needs to use his body and create the shots in the paint. I know I am in the minority on this, but I really think he will be a scoring machine if he sticks around the basket. Maybe if Stevie can keep the defense honest, we will see more of Joplin down low.

Funny you say that because everytime I see Joplin try to back someone down or even drive the lane, I cringe. He's not good with his back to the hoop.

[tower912]

I think back to Jamal Cain.   I get the same cringe I got in early years Jamal Cain.    I don't think Joplin is as quick.     I can see him doing the pull up in another year.   

All of that aside, he is just a kid taking on a bigger role.    Trying to do all of the things his coach wants him to do.   Rebound, play defense, make the right play on offense.    Patience.     Hopefully, it will all fall into place for him soon.   

[jfp61]

Post Joplin up and let him score down low. He needs to use his body and create the shots in the paint. I know I am in the minority on this, but I really think he will be a scoring machine if he sticks around the basket. Maybe if Stevie can keep the defense honest, we will see more of Joplin down low.

I know this is a joke. But lets just say some Joplin stats.

Joplin has the worst 2pt FG percent on the team!

Joplin shoots 57.1% at the rim, the only players who shoot worse at the rim are Kolek and Sean Jones. He is in the 24th percentile for players at his height. Neither Kolek nor Sean are given assisted attempts at the rim like Joplin is.

Joplin shoots 40% in the paint (not at the rim). Only Kam and Omax are worse (those attempts are usually end of shot clock prayers)

Joplin shoots 25% in the midrange. He has the second worst percentage on the team. And he takes the MOST midrange shots on the team.

Joplin needs to just stand in the corner and hope Kam or Kolek can get him the ball for an open three. He shoots 50% in the corners and 35.9% above the break (only behind Kolek).

And this is ignoring the fact that Joplin doesn't have an affinity to pass the ball, and he has a 5.6 assist rate and a 18.1 TO Rate, and he is the worst defender on our team. (though he played adequately on defense against Nova for 5 minutes in the second half).

As of this last game Chase Ross is officially a better player than him. I would flip their minutes instantly.

[Goose]

jfp

My post is not a joke. I trust that your stats are accurate and my post said I believe he WILL be a scoring machine in the paint down the road. The kid is a scorer and I do not believe his future is being a three point specialist at MU.

He is not a scoring machine in the point at the moment, but he has shown glimpses that makes me believe he will be a big threat down low at some point during his college career. He needs to learn to get in the right position and use his body to his advantage and I think he will be a force.

I can say at the moment he is only guy on the team that has really pissed me off this season and on multiple occasions. So, I am not a Joplin super fan of family member. I could be flat out wrong two years from now, but I think once he learns to play down there he will be tough stop.

[Goose]

The Hound

See my post to jfp. Joplin was frustrated me more than any other player. My thoughts on him scoring low has zero with him dribbling into the lane. IMO, he is going to be guy that gets 10+ points a game down in the paint at some point of his career.

I agree on cringing when Joplin tries to barrel into the lane and I hope we see less of that. I also hope we see less him 20-25 away from the basket and more down low post from him.

[NCMUFan]

Shaka knows his players and their potentials.
Present and future look bright for Joplin.

[PGsHeroes32]

jfp

My post is not a joke. I trust that your stats are accurate and my post said I believe he WILL be a scoring machine in the paint down the road. The kid is a scorer and I do not believe his future is being a three point specialist at MU.

He is not a scoring machine in the point at the moment, but he has shown glimpses that makes me believe he will be a big threat down low at some point during his college career. He needs to learn to get in the right position and use his body to his advantage and I think he will be a force.

I can say at the moment he is only guy on the team that has really pissed me off this season and on multiple occasions. So, I am not a Joplin super fan of family member. I could be flat out wrong two years from now, but I think once he learns to play down there he will be tough stop.

I think some of the Jop flack on here is mind boggling at times. The guy is absolutely flawed as he still works to refining his game at this level and limit the things hes bad at(like dribbling and sidde stepping at negative speed) but hes also got some true god given talent scoring the basektball.

The guy can get buckets. And I said it in a game thread a few games ago, IF(and its a big if) he is either able to improve defensively and/or work on his sloppy/weak ball skills in the paint. He will be a near 20 ppg scorer imo.

We are a pretty damn good basketball team when basically the only player getting piled on is the 6th man who is capable of scoring 15 pts in 20 minutes of PT at any time.

[Goose]

PG

I agree. Plus, my posts on the topic are that I believe he will be a 20ppg down the road.

[tower912]

I think he is a couple of games away from having a Kam-like breakthrough, understanding good and bad shots and how to get them in the flow of the offense.
That will be fun.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I think some of the Jop flack on here is mind boggling at times. The guy is absolutely flawed as he still works to refining his game at this level and limit the things hes bad at(like dribbling and sidde stepping at negative speed) but hes also got some true god given talent scoring the basektball.

The guy can get buckets. And I said it in a game thread a few games ago, IF(and its a big if) he is either able to improve defensively and/or work on his sloppy/weak ball skills in the paint. He will be a near 20 ppg scorer imo.

We are a pretty damn good basketball team when basically the only player getting piled on is the 6th man who is capable of scoring 15 pts in 20 minutes of PT at any time.

Dead on. Shaka needs him to be a banger this season with Zach out.  And he will need to fully assume the SF starter role next season. I remember Lazar his frosh and sophomore years.  Not super athletic or strong, just a good shooter.  Then his junior year came and he was a different body type and became a banger. 

[StillAWarrior]

[Joplin] is not a scoring machine in the point at the moment, but he has shown glimpses that makes me believe he will be a big threat down low at some point during his college career. He needs to learn to get in the right position and use his body to his advantage and I think he will be a force.

At the Purdue game, when Joplin entered the game in the second half I leaned over to my brother and said, "Joplin is one of our better scorers, and he hasn't even scored yet." He proceeded to make me look like I knew what I was talking about and scored 15 of MU's 17 points in the next five minutes. MU went from down 5 to up 9 in that span. The kid can definitely score. I think it's pretty clear that Shaka and his staff are doing a good job helping these kids improve their games. I'm optimistic that we'll continue to see improvement and Joplin will more consistently show the skill and execution that we've seen flashes of.