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Jables1604

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 18, 2024, 11:44:55 AMI wonder what lesson they'll learn from this event?  Men's golf is probably the least relevant it's been in decades.

LIV is a bust.  The Tour is losing sponsors and viewers.  Players on both tours have no idea the product sucks and don't care.  The players that do care on the PGA side are dismissed unless they care solely about money. 

Without the majors, the sport would be on the level of bowling

If past history is any indication they won't learn any lesson.

I kind of got involved in the sport later in life so my experience starts just prior to the dawn of the Tiger era. My understanding is that people weren't exactly lining up to watch Hal Sutton and Corey Pavin duke it out before Eldrick came on the scene.

Most likely will be cyclical. Somebody will come along and reignite interest in the sport. For the time being I'm not certain crowds will show up to watch Justin Thomas or Jordan Spieth.

Ancillary benefit is, at least where I live, tee times are much more available than they were just a few years ago.


tower912

Seriously jealous.  COVID drove non-golfers to the course to drink, and around here, they have not left.  Having 12 golf courses in a 30 mile radius close in the last 15 years kind of sucks, too.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jables1604 on December 18, 2024, 06:45:14 PMIf past history is any indication they won't learn any lesson.

I kind of got involved in the sport later in life so my experience starts just prior to the dawn of the Tiger era. My understanding is that people weren't exactly lining up to watch Hal Sutton and Corey Pavin duke it out before Eldrick came on the scene.

Most likely will be cyclical. Somebody will come along and reignite interest in the sport. For the time being I'm not certain crowds will show up to watch Justin Thomas or Jordan Spieth.

Ancillary benefit is, at least where I live, tee times are much more available than they were just a few years ago.



We need to shrink the game.

What's amazing is, the majors feel obligated to increase purses.  The money athletes make now has become to numb to sports fans.  There was a time when you could brag about prize money for your event.  Now?  Nobody cares.  Golf keeps thinking more money makes the product better when the average fan doesn't care about it.
Guster is for Lovers

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2024, 06:48:08 PMSeriously jealous.  COVID drove non-golfers to the course to drink, and around here, they have not left.  Having 12 golf courses in a 30 mile radius close in the last 15 years kind of sucks, too.
All the Country Clubs in our area have long wait lists and they are upping initiation fees and dues. Only way to get into some is buy a home in Country Club community.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

tower912

Pay attention when your kid is on the tee.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

One last 2024 round today.  God bless global warming.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


CreightonWarrior

Anyone been to Treetops Resort in northern Michigan? Looking at that for the 2025 trip.

tower912

Many times.   It is lovely.  They do the lodging and resort part well.  The courses are beautiful.  Some truly memorable, some generic Northern Michigan
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

swoopem

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 29, 2024, 12:20:35 PMAnyone been to Treetops Resort in northern Michigan? Looking at that for the 2025 trip.

Yeah I have. It's pretty good, not great. I remember really liking one of the courses and the others were decent. I did shoot my career low of 80 there.

The par 3 course is awesome. The lodging was good and it was cheap but I like going to Boyne, Forest Dunes, or Arcadia more

But I would go back
Bring back FFP!!!

tower912

I love Forest Dunes/Loop.  Lodging isn't ideal.  But the Loop is destination golf.  Arcadia South is on my 2025 list.   If you really want to get off the beaten path (A) Forest Dunes, and (B) Garland.  Northern Michigan meets Florida golf in that there is a lot of water. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on December 29, 2024, 12:34:36 PMI love Forest Dunes/Loop.  Lodging isn't ideal.  But the Loop is destination golf.  Arcadia South is on my 2025 list.   If you really want to get off the beaten path (A) Forest Dunes, and (B) Garland.  Northern Michigan meets Florida golf in that there is a lot of water. 
tower912:
I recommend you try Lincoln Hills Golf Club in Ludington in 2025  . The course is semi-private so you can get tee times. Wind Dunes etc make it challenging from the back. I think you will enjoy it. Nice  Club House after round. Somewhat of a hidden gem in the Michigan rota.

https://lincolnhillsgc.com/
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

cheebs09

Looks like LIV reached a deal with Fox. I'm a bit surprised by that unless they really want some golf to televise.

tower912

Don't discuss politics.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Keegan needs to lose the mustache.


Is anybody seriously tempted by any shiny new toys?  Willing to fix all of your golf problems by throwing money at them?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jutaw22mu

My golf problems cannot be fixed!!

tower912

My golf problem is that I think they CAN be fixed by buying new toys.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 02:06:34 PMMy golf problem is that I think they CAN be fixed by buying new toys.

I have a buddy who was a solid golfer, 10ish handicap.  Wanted to get over the hump into the 7-8 range.  Was CONVINCED he needed to be longer off the tee despite not having an exceptional short game, just serviceable.  Spent a few grand on not one but 2 new drivers and fittings...couldn't hit them to save his life.  Went from hitting a controllable slice/power fade in the 230-240s...to spraying 250+.  He's went back to his original driver.  Look forward to him doing the same thing with putters this summer instead of just hitting the practice green for hours.

tower912

I bought a Titleist GT2 in August and did find 10 yards and more fairways through the autumn.   To the point that I may have sold a couple more as my buddies got serious cases of the covets.  Two of them hit their longest drives of the year with my driver.   
  My last round of 2024 was on 12/27. I rolled in 50 feet of putts on the last two holes to shoot even.   So, I don't NEED anything.  But I am always checking.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 03:04:05 PMI bought a Titleist GT2 in August and did find 10 yards and more fairways through the autumn.   To the point that I may have sold a couple more as my buddies got serious cases of the covets.  Two of them hit their longest drives of the year with my driver.   
  My last round of 2024 was on 12/27. I rolled in 50 feet of putts on the last two holes to shoot even.   So, I don't NEED anything.  But I am always checking.

I played Augusta last weekend with Fred Ridley and he tried talking me out of buying the new Qi35.  Thinks I should challenge myself hitting persimmon
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 23, 2025, 05:10:50 PMI played Augusta last weekend with Fred Ridley and he tried talking me out of buying the new Qi35.  Thinks I should challenge myself hitting persimmon
How much damage from the hurricanes and ice storms?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 05:21:33 PMHow much damage from the hurricanes and ice storms?

16 was lost but it's fine.  We played the tips and I didn't notice a big difference.  Lost a bunch of trees but they've already been replaced
Guster is for Lovers

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