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jesmu84

Good for the Senate (and expectedly, the house) for getting this done.

ZiggysFryBoy

Think you got your houses of Congress backwards, kin.

Agreed that this is good legislation.

IBTL

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 29, 2022, 05:28:40 PM
Good for the Senate (and expectedly, the house) for getting this done.

Ziggy is right ( a sentence I never thought I would say.

The House was a gimme. The Senate was always going to be the issue.

jesmu84

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on November 29, 2022, 05:45:18 PM
Think you got your houses of Congress backwards, kin.

Agreed that this is good legislation.

IBTL

My wording was poor. Expected the house to get it done.

Regardless, good for all

tower912

I have never seen the point in exempting the LGBTQ community from the horror and misery of marriage.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Congrats to the Republicans, including the two senators from North Carolina, for rejecting laws of hate and for recognizing this as good governance.

The language that had to be inserted to get it passed -- that religious organizations don't have to provide "goods or services" for the celebration of any marriage -- was fine, too. Who wants to have anything to do with an organization that hates them just for being who they are?

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Jay Bee

This isn't about equality or equal rights. It's about special benefits for certain people.

Absolutely pathetic.

Treat everyone the same.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 29, 2022, 11:20:14 PM

Treat everyone the same.

This is why Jay Bee doesn't care who he puts it in. he's an equal opportunist all for treating everyone the same.
Maigh Eo for Sam

Babybluejeans

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 29, 2022, 11:20:14 PM

Treat everyone the same.

Exactly what the bill ensures...should give it a read.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Babybluejeans on November 30, 2022, 02:59:44 PM
Exactly what the bill ensures...should give it a read.

IIRC, Jay Bee takes issue with married couples getting tax benefits but not single people.
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TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Jay Bee

Quote from: Babybluejeans on November 30, 2022, 02:59:44 PM
Exactly what the bill ensures...should give it a read.

No, it doesn't. Why should marriage be a factor in any law, rule or regulation?

Very discriminatory and hateful.
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Jockey

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on November 30, 2022, 03:19:44 PM
IIRC, Jay Bee takes issue with married couples getting tax benefits but not single people.

I don't imagine any woman (or man) would have him - as I am sure he is as charming in real life as on Scoop - so he misses out on a lifetime tax break.

tower912

Reports out of Ft. Myers said he and his wife were quite pleasant.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2022, 04:05:26 PM
Reports out of Ft. Myers said he and his wife were quite pleasant.   

I've met some folks from Scoop and they've all been extremely attractive

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2022, 04:05:26 PM
Reports out of Ft. Myers said he and his wife were quite pleasant.   

I thought that was Lenny (who I argue/discuss with a lot but seems like a good guy).

Johnny B

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2022, 03:23:59 PM
No, it doesn't. Why should marriage be a factor in any law, rule or regulation?

Very discriminatory and hateful.
5 year olds should marry 60 year olds cause why should marriage be a factor in any law, rule or regulation? Your comment is outrageously dumb in so many ways.

Jay Bee

Two people are exactly the same, except one is married and one isn't. They are treated differently to cheers of "equality"... why? Marriage rights reward married individuals— why is this celebrated?
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Johnny B

Your view is confusing and hurts my head. its celebrated cause it protects peoples freedom to get married, whilst people want to take it away. Go ahead and get married. marry a woman or man idc. nothing is stopping you.

forgetful

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2022, 05:18:41 PM
Two people are exactly the same, except one is married and one isn't. They are treated differently to cheers of "equality"... why? Marriage rights reward married individuals— why is this celebrated?

I'm not sure you understand the concept of marriage, and how many people were barred from partaking in a life together that is recognized by the rest of the nation.

Jay Bee

Quote from: forgetful on November 30, 2022, 09:15:41 PM
I'm not sure you understand the concept of marriage, and how many people were barred from partaking in a life together that is recognized by the rest of the nation.

I'm asking why are we talking about "equality" when it comes to marriage rights, when the rights defy equality?

Again, look at my question. What is equal about the government giving preferential treatment to those who are married vs those who are not?

Awful and wrong!
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Pakuni

Going to be a rough night at the JayBee home when he learns about child tax credits, mortgage interest deductions and senior exemptions.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on November 30, 2022, 10:53:14 PM
Going to be a rough night at the JayBee home when he learns about child tax credits, mortgage interest deductions and senior exemptions.

It's okay, his integrity would never allow him to use those deductions for personal gain.

The Lens

Quote from: Jockey on November 30, 2022, 04:45:29 PM
I thought that was Lenny (who I argue/discuss with a lot but seems like a good guy).

Lenny is fantastic, his wife is fantastic-er.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2022, 10:42:04 PM
I'm asking why are we talking about "equality" when it comes to marriage rights, when the rights defy equality?

Again, look at my question. What is equal about the government giving preferential treatment to those who are married vs those who are not?

Awful and wrong!

JB - you're 100% correct from an equality/fairness standpoint.

But Congress believes (and I agree) that marriage leads to a better, more stable society. So they offer incentives to encourage it, which is OK by me. Want less of an activity? Tax it. Want more? Subsidize it. It's what governments do.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Lens on December 01, 2022, 01:42:20 PM
Lenny is fantastic, his wife is fantastic-er.

As always, you're way too kind to me - but dead on re Mrs. Lenny!

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