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Who should be the 6th Man?

Chase Ross
51 (54.8%)
Sean Jones
6 (6.5%)
David Joplin
36 (38.7%)

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Voting closed: November 11, 2022, 10:39:42 AM

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6th Man
« on: November 08, 2022, 10:39:42 AM »
I can't decide who should be the 6th man for this team. It feels like Shaka wants it to be Joplin, but I can't tell if Joplin actually wants it. Apparently, he did play fantastic in the Mizzou scrimmages earlier this fall, but if he shoots like he did last night I don't see his minutes going up. Sean Jones obviously had hype, but how much of him is just a highlight player? He seems to be a little out of control, could just be a learning curve for the freshman. Then, Chase Ross, who in my opinion looked like the best out of the 3 last night. He played maturely and knew his rotations on defense. He has my vote.
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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2022, 10:42:27 AM »
One game at a time.   It will reveal itself.
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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2022, 10:43:36 AM »
I think it's been one game. I also think that Joplin will have night last night and he will also have nights were he scores 28 in 30 minutes. Jones I think will see his minutes rise throughout the season. Ross I think will settle into 10-15 minutes off the bench role.

I also wouldn't count out Wrightsil yet. Transfers always have an adjustment period and he missed a lot of the offseason due to injury. Maybe he never gets there but it's too early to say.
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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2022, 10:43:48 AM »
Based on 1 game-It's Ross but I do feel like Joplin is much better than what he showed last night. Him and Wrightsil showed literally nothing.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2022, 11:08:20 AM »
Chase Ross looked very composed last night and I thought in this one game he looked to be the best "6th man."  But one game is not exactly a good sample size.

Sean Jones showed some serious flashes of skill and I'm looking forward to the player he becomes.  Last night though he looked exactly like you'd expect a freshman to be: young and nervous in their first game.  It was very evident when he was at the line.  This should take care of itself with a few more games under his belt and as the season progresses.

I saw huge improvement on Joplins defense from last year.  Is her perfect yet, clearly not... but the rotations and where he is on the floor was a HUGE leap.  Now let's see him hit some of those shots!

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2022, 11:10:51 AM »
I'm officially starting the Chase Ross fan club.  Bold prediction:  Honestly saw all I needed to see to say that he's the best looking freshman guard prospect at MU that I recall in a long time - perhaps since Jerel/Wes.  The physical skills are there - strength, athleticism - and he was really poised for a freshman playing in his first college basketball game.  His defense was really good last night too.

He's going to force his way to a 20-25 minute role per game.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2022, 11:31:35 AM »
Ross looks a lot better than I thought he would look. I think he’ll be pretty consistent and solid this year overall. I think he fits in well anywhere from 2-4 and will be good for small ball when Oso is in foul trouble. Jones and Joplin will have more better individual games but also more terrible games mixed in. Expecting Wrightsil to be just more of a role player, which is fine.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2022, 11:42:40 AM »
I saw huge improvement on Joplins defense from last year.  Is her perfect yet, clearly not... but the rotations and where he is on the floor was a HUGE leap.  Now let's see him hit some of those shots!

The steal was nice, but I'll disagree that Jop's defense looked better. He was out of position a couple of times last night. Once Kam literally had to push him into position because he had picked up the wrong man in transition. But like you said earlier in your post, one game sample size. Doesn't mean he hasn't improved, I just don't think he showed it last night.
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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2022, 11:47:30 AM »
I think it's been one game. I also think that Joplin will have night last night and he will also have nights were he scores 28 in 30 minutes. Jones I think will see his minutes rise throughout the season. Ross I think will settle into 10-15 minutes off the bench role.

I also wouldn't count out Wrightsil yet. Transfers always have an adjustment period and he missed a lot of the offseason due to injury. Maybe he never gets there but it's too early to say.
Night(s) plural? Multiple 28pt games from Joplin? I'll take under .5 28pt games from Joplin this season. I agree with your overall point that he'll be hot/cold throughout the season and I'm still optimistic about him this season. Wish he would try to be more versatile on offense instead of just a spot-up shooter.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2022, 11:49:13 AM »
I'm officially starting the Chase Ross fan club.  Bold prediction:  Honestly saw all I needed to see to say that he's the best looking freshman guard prospect at MU that I recall in a long time - perhaps since Jerel/Wes.  The physical skills are there - strength, athleticism - and he was really poised for a freshman playing in his first college basketball game.  His defense was really good last night too.

He's going to force his way to a 20-25 minute role per game.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2022, 11:58:03 AM »
Kam Jones? 1st Team All Big East Freshman

Good point.   8-)  But from my perspective Ross is a physical specimen already, was disruptive defensively, and played a really poised/sound floor game. Kam, definitely more gifted offensively at this stage.  Projecting long term Ross looks like the kind of player that could develop into an NBAer. 

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2022, 12:02:13 PM »
Night(s) plural? Multiple 28pt games from Joplin? I'll take under .5 28pt games from Joplin this season. I agree with your overall point that he'll be hot/cold throughout the season and I'm still optimistic about him this season. Wish he would try to be more versatile on offense instead of just a spot-up shooter.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2022, 12:06:39 PM »
I'm officially starting the Chase Ross fan club.  Bold prediction:  Honestly saw all I needed to see to say that he's the best looking freshman guard prospect at MU that I recall in a long time - perhaps since Jerel/Wes.  The physical skills are there - strength, athleticism - and he was really poised for a freshman playing in his first college basketball game.  His defense was really good last night too.

He's going to force his way to a 20-25 minute role per game.

I mean come on.  You can not like how the guy played or how he was allowed to play by the coach, but Chase Ross looks not even remotely close to as good as Markus Howard did as a freshman.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2022, 12:08:23 PM »
I mean come on.  You can not like how the guy played or how he was allowed to play by the coach, but Chase Ross looks not even remotely close to as good as Markus Howard did as a freshman.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2022, 12:08:30 PM »
Ross reminds me of Joe Chapman but with DJO athleticism.

Good defender, good spot up shooter, and a real threat as a transition finisher.  A lot to build off of.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2022, 12:14:04 PM »
Ross reminds me of Joe Chapman but with DJO athleticism.

Did you just put them in a blender?

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2022, 12:20:55 PM »
Well if you include the scrimmages, you already lost on your bet.
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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2022, 12:26:07 PM »
The steal was nice, but I'll disagree that Jop's defense looked better. He was out of position a couple of times last night. Once Kam literally had to push him into position because he had picked up the wrong man in transition. But like you said earlier in your post, one game sample size. Doesn't mean he hasn't improved, I just don't think he showed it last night.

Agreed, and on another occasion he did the point to his guy for a teammate to guard only to stand and do nothing and guard no one himself. He is out of position a lot and doesn’t seem to have the scrappy gene to get back into a good spot on the floor. I know it’s early, but there doesn’t seem to be a drive. Even Wrightsil and Gold showed spark. I hope I am wrong that Joplin doesn’t have it.

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2022, 12:26:48 PM »
Can i choose a healthy Emarion Ellis? He looks nearly 6'8" now.

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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2022, 12:51:12 PM »
One game at a time.   It will reveal itself.

Man, I just finished a good long laugh at that one. You know you're on Scoop, right?

I mean come on.  You can not like how the guy played or how he was allowed to play by the coach, but Chase Ross looks not even remotely close to as good as Markus Howard did as a freshman.

Stop it! Just because in his freshman year Markus shot 55% from 3, had multiple 20+ point games, and came up huge down the stretch as we won 4 of 5 to make the NCAAs (18.8 ppg, 69%!! from 3) ... and just because he went on to be a two-time All-American who led us to 3 NCAA tournaments in 4 seasons ... don't ever forget he was a Wojo guy, therefore pure evil and a total failure.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2022, 02:20:39 PM »
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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2022, 02:27:07 PM »
I mean come on.  You can not like how the guy played or how he was allowed to play by the coach, but Chase Ross looks not even remotely close to as good as Markus Howard did as a freshman.

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2022, 02:38:08 PM »
Did you just put them in a blender?

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Re: 6th Man
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2022, 03:54:08 PM »
I mean come on.  You can not like how the guy played or how he was allowed to play by the coach, but Chase Ross looks not even remotely close to as good as Markus Howard did as a freshman.

As you like to say Wades:  Chase is a "dude."  Markus was a prolific scorer, marginal (at best) defender, and quite frankly, pretty selfish.