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Author Topic: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread  (Read 274939 times)

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2275 on: February 10, 2023, 10:00:03 AM »
I know people like to say there was only two outcomes with this, but 4ever is right - this situation sunk him.  Should have found a way to get the team to  address conflict, play together and not implode during the season.  That was his job, he failed and thankfully we have moved on.

This is correct. The conflict was started by the Hausers which is not a knock on them, conflicts between college aged athletes happen. The fact that Wojo let that conflict fester and get to the point where it became a him or us situation is a failure on his part, arguably the biggest failure of his tenure. MU gave him a chance to recover and he failed.

I have no fears of a similar situation with the current coaching regime
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2276 on: February 10, 2023, 10:09:00 AM »
Has to win the league tourney to dance but LMU fans have to be excited.  They definitely can do it.  I’d cheer for him but he brought Markus to Marquette

This made me wonder...was Stan still around when Wojo recruited Oso?  The Chandler, AZ connection ran through Markus's family to Oso, but was Stan also instrumental in that recruitment?

I'd love to see the WCC become a bit of a Big East Lite.  Too bad that only St. Mary's has managed to rise the Gonzaga tide to be consistently any good.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2277 on: February 10, 2023, 10:22:46 AM »
This made me wonder...was Stan still around when Wojo recruited Oso?  The Chandler, AZ connection ran through Markus's family to Oso, but was Stan also instrumental in that recruitment?

I'd love to see the WCC become a bit of a Big East Lite.  Too bad that only St. Mary's has managed to rise the Gonzaga tide to be consistently any good.

What would that make the A10?

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2278 on: February 10, 2023, 10:24:36 AM »
This made me wonder...was Stan still around when Wojo recruited Oso?  The Chandler, AZ connection ran through Markus's family to Oso, but was Stan also instrumental in that recruitment?

I'd love to see the WCC become a bit of a Big East Lite.  Too bad that only St. Mary's has managed to rise the Gonzaga tide to be consistently any good.

The schools, at least the majority of them, do try and be successful.  There is a vacuum out west for sure.  Part of the problem is, they’re on the west coast and it’s hard to get eyeballs.  For a brief period, you could have argued Pepperdine would have been Gonzaga before Gonzaga
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2279 on: February 10, 2023, 10:27:21 AM »
This made me wonder...was Stan still around when Wojo recruited Oso?  The Chandler, AZ connection ran through Markus's family to Oso, but was Stan also instrumental in that recruitment?

I'd love to see the WCC become a bit of a Big East Lite.  Too bad that only St. Mary's has managed to rise the Gonzaga tide to be consistently any good.

Stan was the lead recruiter for both Oso and Garcia.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2280 on: February 10, 2023, 10:35:54 AM »
Should have kicked their asses off the team and told them to transfer.

Freshmen don't get to win battles of will with the coach and the first team all American.
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2281 on: February 10, 2023, 10:54:04 AM »
Should have kicked their asses off the team and told them to transfer.

Freshmen don't get to win battles of will with the coach and the first team all American.

Agreed.  The parents and big bro should've let little bro make his own decision and go where he wanted to go in the first place.  Instead they got a pouty brother who ended up writing a hand written letter and passed it around to all but one player on the team to get their signatures and took it to the head coach, while pops waited outside locker rooms to discuss shot selection with the head coach.  What a joke.

But, it all led to Shaka being here.  And for that I am very thankful.  I was excited when we landed Shaka.  I was disappointed in what I thought was a lack of talent coming in.  Turns out, Shaka knew more about the players on the team and the recruits coming in than I did.  Weird how that works out.

Hoping to see more of the offense that got us to #1 in KenPom's offensive efficiency this weekend, and then carry that over to the Xavier game against their poor defense.
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2282 on: February 10, 2023, 11:14:58 AM »
Agreed.  The parents and big bro should've let little bro make his own decision and go where he wanted to go in the first place.  Instead they got a pouty brother who ended up writing a hand written letter and passed it around to all but one player on the team to get their signatures and took it to the head coach, while pops waited outside locker rooms to discuss shot selection with the head coach.  What a joke.


Is this all true? This is the most details I've seen so far.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2283 on: February 10, 2023, 11:19:01 AM »
Is this all true? This is the most details I've seen so far.

A part of it was a Scoop rumor, so stone cold lock to be true.

A part of it is second hand information to me, but it's from someone I trust.
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2284 on: February 10, 2023, 11:19:45 AM »
Should have kicked their asses off the team and told them to transfer.

Freshmen don't get to win battles of will with the coach and the first team all American.

Well either way they ended up leaving, so you got your wish. Outside of Wojo's hefty buyout, can't say it really worked out for him.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2285 on: February 10, 2023, 11:33:09 AM »
Wojo was an average coach.  Never grew beyond his Duke roots.   Somehow managed to not recruit enough big guards  and switchables to ever be more than average.  After the initial shock, and hearing things from people I know and trust, I viewed the Hauser situation as essentially the same as the Jeronne situation.   I thought Wojo was weak for not handling it like Buzz did.

But Wojo is gone and I like Shaka better.
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2286 on: February 10, 2023, 11:45:18 AM »
Wojo was an average coach.  Never grew beyond his Duke roots.   Somehow managed to not recruit enough big guards  and switchables to ever be more than average.  After the initial shock, and hearing things from people I know and trust, I viewed the Hauser situation as essentially the same as the Jeronne situation.   I thought Wojo was weak for not handling it like Buzz did.

But Wojo is gone and I like Shaka better.

Wojo was pretty good at recruiting talented pieces, but lousy at figuring out how to put them all together.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2287 on: February 10, 2023, 11:46:41 AM »
Should have kicked their asses off the team and told them to transfer.

Freshmen don't get to win battles of will with the coach and the first team all American.

Hardooooooo!

When you promise the world to get a recruit and don’t “derecruit” them when they arrive on campus, you embolden them to make stances like Joey made.

Rookie mistake from a rookie coach. It never should’ve arrived at the point of choosing between two groups. Extremely poor leadership.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2288 on: February 10, 2023, 12:00:54 PM »
Agreed.  The parents and big bro should've let little bro make his own decision and go where he wanted to go in the first place.

I don't think there's any truth to the idea that Joey's parents or brothers didn't let him make his own decision. What I do think there is truth in is that Joey made a mistake that a lot of young people make and made a decision for the sake of pleasing others that he ended up regretting.
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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2289 on: February 10, 2023, 12:10:22 PM »
I don't think there's any truth to the idea that Joey's parents or brothers didn't let him make his own decision. What I do think there is truth in is that Joey made a mistake that a lot of young people make and made a decision for the sake of pleasing others that he ended up regretting.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2290 on: February 10, 2023, 06:05:27 PM »
I’m just really glad we’ve all moved on

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2291 on: February 10, 2023, 07:14:03 PM »
Is this all true?

You’re kidding, right?

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2292 on: February 10, 2023, 07:39:08 PM »
This made me wonder...was Stan still around when Wojo recruited Oso?  The Chandler, AZ connection ran through Markus's family to Oso, but was Stan also instrumental in that recruitment?

I'd love to see the WCC become a bit of a Big East Lite.  Too bad that only St. Mary's has managed to rise the Gonzaga tide to be consistently any good.

Stan recruited Oso. Stan also positioned Marquette with a good chance for DaRon Holmes, (also from Phoenix) before Stan left for LMU.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2293 on: February 10, 2023, 07:40:41 PM »
Refs working hard for Xavier in this one. Three phantom shooting fouls called on Butler this half. Heading into the under eight with the softest moving screen call in the history of basketball.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2294 on: February 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM »
New Mexico State indefinitely suspends basketball program, reportedly due to hazing allegations.


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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2295 on: February 10, 2023, 09:47:43 PM »
New Mexico State indefinitely suspends basketball program, reportedly due to hazing allegations.

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Re: 2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread
« Reply #2297 on: February 10, 2023, 10:42:27 PM »
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« Reply #2298 on: February 10, 2023, 10:55:08 PM »
New Mexico State indefinitely suspends basketball program, reportedly due to hazing allegations.

It’s not like one of their players killed someone…….oh wait.

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