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tower912

Swain going down did not look good.  I hope he is OK.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: tower912 on January 22, 2025, 08:05:42 PMSwain going down did not look good.  I hope he is OK.

They didn't really show anything. Looked like he was holding his ankle, but the announcers said knee.

That was weird.
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Uncle Rico

The ending of that game really represents the nation as a whole
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2025, 07:53:25 PMA little concerned about how MU will handle the Johnnies' press, especially if they're allowed to maul us like this.

I'm a lot concerned. Their defense was brutal.
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: tower912 on January 22, 2025, 08:00:55 PMWell, if they use the proper postage.

Nah. They're gonna go postal on us. Unless we provide a sacrificial lamb. I nominate Muggsy. Anyone want to second the motion?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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bradforster

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 22, 2025, 08:07:55 PMThey didn't really show anything. Looked like he was holding his ankle, but the announcers said knee.

That was weird.

Swain has an ankle sprain.  He was in the handshake line at the end of the game.  X-rays were negative but he could miss some time.

MUDPT

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 22, 2025, 10:47:02 AMYes they do. They've already beat St. Johns and UConn. They have both Marquette and UConn at home yet to play. Only back 1 game in the standings.

T Rank has them losing just 3 more games the rest of the way which would put them at 15-5 in the league.

T Rank having them losing 3 more games, doesn't mean that they are going to lose just 3 more games.

CTWarrior

Too bad Xavier didn't hold on for that win.  Would have been a big help for our winning the conference.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: MUDPT on January 23, 2025, 05:42:25 AMT Rank having them losing 3 more games, doesn't mean that they are going to lose just 3 more games.

That's kind of implied in saying "which would put them at 15-5 in the league."

They absolutely have as good a chance as any to win the league. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but they control their own destiny and have an easier road ahead than MU, UConn, and St. John's.
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StillWarriors

Quote from: tower912 on January 22, 2025, 07:30:13 PMSJU gets every call at MSG.  Accept that when MU plays there.

That game never gets to OT without the horrendous officiating. Aside from all the hacking they let go, there were at least 4 blatant mis-calls on out of bounds plays, two of which overruled the original call (not on replay), a couple which led to buckets by St. John's. Smart approach by St. John's to beat the hell out of them and see what they could get away with, but that was a brutal showing by the refs.

TallTitan34

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Quote from: StillWarriors on January 23, 2025, 07:24:36 AMThat game never gets to OT without the horrendous officiating. Aside from all the hacking they let go, there were at least 4 blatant mis-calls on out of bounds plays, two of which overruled the original call (not on replay), a couple which led to buckets by St. John's. Smart approach by St. John's to beat the hell out of them and see what they could get away with, but that was a brutal showing by the refs.

Brian O'Connell missed a few of those out of bounds plays. 

He and Tim Clougherty did that game and the MU game the night before.

MUfan12

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 23, 2025, 08:10:45 AMBrian O'Connell missed a few of those out of bounds plays. 

He and Tim Clougherty did that game and the MU game the night before.

Two guys that need to hang it up. Terrible officials.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: StillWarriors on January 23, 2025, 07:24:36 AMThat game never gets to OT without the horrendous officiating. Aside from all the hacking they let go, there were at least 4 blatant mis-calls on out of bounds plays, two of which overruled the original call (not on replay), a couple which led to buckets by St. John's. Smart approach by St. John's to beat the hell out of them and see what they could get away with, but that was a brutal showing by the refs.

Marquette and St. John's are a lot a like in how they approach the game defensively. As far as offensively...Marquette utilizes the perimeter while SJU uses that same bully mindset down low.

SJU was 1-12 from 3 while Xavier was 8-20 and still lost. Can't imagine there have been too many teams that have won shooting under 10% from 3 when their opponent shoots 40%.
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 23, 2025, 08:10:45 AMBrian O'Connell missed a few of those out of bounds plays. 

He and Tim Clougherty did that game and the MU game the night before.

Normally think O'Connell is pretty good. Can get a little swayed by the crowd, but so can most refs. That said, this games was rough.
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bradforster

Quote from: StillWarriors on January 23, 2025, 07:24:36 AMThat game never gets to OT without the horrendous officiating. Aside from all the hacking they let go, there were at least 4 blatant mis-calls on out of bounds plays, two of which overruled the original call (not on replay), a couple which led to buckets by St. John's. Smart approach by St. John's to beat the hell out of them and see what they could get away with, but that was a brutal showing by the refs.

There's no question Xavier had nothing to do with its own demise after jumping out to a 16 point second half lead.  Those damn officials love St. John's basketball and the Kansas City Chiefs.  What can you do?

tower912

Quote from: bradforster on January 23, 2025, 11:16:30 AMThere's no question Xavier had nothing to do with its own demise after jumping out to a 16 point second half lead.  Those damn officials love St. John's basketball and the Kansas City Chiefs.  What can you do?
Swain going out did them no favors.  Neither did making poor decisions with the ball.
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Quote from: bradforster on January 23, 2025, 11:16:30 AMThere's no question Xavier had nothing to do with its own demise after jumping out to a 16 point second half lead.  Those damn officials love St. John's basketball and the Kansas City Chiefs.  What can you do?
No team should ever blow a 16 point lead and expect to win. Every team that has ever had a 16 point lead at some point should never lose....

Zog from Margo

Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 11:22:44 AMSwain going out did them no favors.  Neither did making poor decisions with the ball.

I actually thought that was the difference. Swain is really good. I can see why Shaka recruited him.

StillWarriors

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Quote from: bradforster on January 23, 2025, 11:16:30 AMThere's no question Xavier had nothing to do with its own demise after jumping out to a 16 point second half lead.  Those damn officials love St. John's basketball and the Kansas City Chiefs.  What can you do?

Never said X had nothing to do with it. Of course they could have overcome the calls, but the fact remains, numerous blatant incorrect calls had a significant impact more than a call or two in a typical game.

MUDPT

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 23, 2025, 06:46:18 AMThat's kind of implied in saying "which would put them at 15-5 in the league."

They absolutely have as good a chance as any to win the league. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but they control their own destiny and have an easier road ahead than MU, UConn, and St. John's.

No they don't. Current odds according to Torvik:
St. John's 50.5%
Marquette 45.8%
CREIGHTON 21.5%



tower912

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wadesworld

Quote from: MUDPT on January 23, 2025, 03:12:53 PMNo they don't. Current odds according to Torvik:
St. John's 50.5%
Marquette 45.8%
CREIGHTON 21.5%




Exactly.  Just because a team "controls their own destiny" doesn't mean they have "just as good of a chance" as any of the other teams.  Before BE play began, DePaul and Seton Hall did not have just as good of a chance to win the BE as Marquette or UCONN did.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 03:14:36 PMF 'em?

Kolek 'em sounds much more Marquetteian. Besides, I'm pretty sure I was the first to use "Kolek 'em" on scoop. I haven't contributed anything else since then. Come to think of it, probably nothing before that either.
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Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 23, 2025, 05:41:00 PMKolek 'em sounds much more Marquetteian. Besides, I'm pretty sure I was the first to use "Kolek 'em" on scoop. I haven't contributed anything else since then. Come to think of it, probably nothing before that either.
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