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Author Topic: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage  (Read 9682 times)

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2022, 07:43:43 AM »
Great stuff, TAMU.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2022, 07:48:04 AM »
Thanks for posting, Wizard. Anxious so see how far Jop has jumped when he is healthy.

Glad Kam has added dimension to his game. Kam seems like a Vinnie Johnson Microwave piece to the puzzle. He will replace Morsell as the "go to" when MU needs a bucket.

I definitely see smaller lineups this year as the bigs will need time to develop. I am still not sure about a NCAA bid team but it will be fun to see the development. I love the PG pieces as that will add complexity for opposing defenses.

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2022, 09:28:44 AM »
Thank you TAMU Wizard
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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2022, 10:28:23 AM »
Thanks a ton for this, Wiz. A lot of great info and insight, and I feel I know more about the 2022-23 team than I would have if you hadn't posted it.

I liked reading Shaka's quotes, and it will be interesting to see if what he says about Oso actually happens.

I was very happy to hear about how good Kolek looked because we definitely need improved play from the PG position. Between his improvement, Stevie's improvement and the rookie, it looks like we're in good shape at the most important position on the floor.

My one nit: You sang praises of Kolek's shooting after he went 2-for-5 but were critical of O-Max going 1-for-5. So if Kolek had missed one more and O-Max had made one more, would the opposite have been true? You did warn us right at the beginning that your observations were based solely on the scrimmage, though, so I'll give you that.

Again, really appreciate you posting this. It reinforced that we all have every reason to believe our team will be better this season, as it should be in our coach's second year with his system and culture having been firmly established.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2022, 10:30:51 AM »
Thanks for posting, Wizard. Anxious so see how far Jop has jumped when he is healthy.

Glad Kam has added dimension to his game. Kam seems like a Vinnie Johnson Microwave piece to the puzzle. He will replace Morsell as the "go to" when MU needs a bucket.

I've been saying Kam had the look of a future go-to guy since pretty early last season. He appears to be ahead of schedule, and you very well might be right about him being that guy this season.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2022, 10:48:13 AM »
My one nit: You sang praises of Kolek's shooting after he went 2-for-5 but were critical of O-Max going 1-for-5. So if Kolek had missed one more and O-Max had made one more, would the opposite have been true? You did warn us right at the beginning that your observations were based solely on the scrimmage, though, so I'll give you that.

That's a fair NIT but I'll counter by saying that my praise for Kolek was less about him going 2/5 and more about him not firing line drives
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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2022, 11:54:45 AM »
My 2 cents...O-Max did't play great, but what he did he can do against anyone.  We've seen him do so, and I think he did look more comfortable putting the ball on the floor.  He hits an additional shot or 2 and we're talking differently.

TK...I have to see it in BEAST play to believe it.  He got to the rim with ease, and I think that speaks more to our interior deficiencies than an ability for him to finish...but we'll see.  If Kur had been on the opposing side...TK isn't doing what he did...

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2022, 12:00:06 PM »
My 2 cents...O-Max did't play great, but what he did he can do against anyone.  We've seen him do so, and I think he did look more comfortable putting the ball on the floor.  He hits an additional shot or 2 and we're talking differently.

TK...I have to see it in BEAST play to believe it.  He got to the rim with ease, and I think that speaks more to our interior deficiencies than an ability for him to finish...but we'll see.  If Kur had been on the opposing side...TK isn't doing what he did...

I’d hate to be so glass half empty because I’m usually not, but I sort of feel the same.

Seeing the guards score with ease in these scrimmages concerns me more about the defense than it makes me feel confident that they are ahead of schedule offensively.

Unfortunately won’t really know until they play against other good defenses in the OOC portion of the schedule.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2022, 01:43:10 PM »
I am very pleased to hear your report on Stevie. I was so confused by his offense last year. He had been a scorer in HS and while I get that the BEAST is a lot different than HS he just seemed so totally lost.  I really was not confident he would progress. I’m delighted he has. He is a really likable guy and his energy and defense are needed.  It will be great if he can add value on offense. Thanks for the report.

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2022, 06:30:55 PM »
Ty TAMU.  What do you see with S.Jones defensively?  Can he use his quicks to lock down opposing guards eventually?  How do you forsee Shaka using our four guards?

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2022, 06:34:45 PM »
If Oso gets in foul trouble cam we play Gold or will we have to play ZW at the 5?

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2022, 07:02:36 PM »
Keeyan, Gold, Wrightsil, OMax.     
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2022, 07:06:19 PM »
Keeyan, Gold, Wrightsil, OMax.   

Is Keeyan ahead of Gold?  Cool. 

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2022, 07:46:01 PM »
The event was decently attended though the crowd was at least 90% alumni and their families.


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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2022, 07:48:43 PM »
The event was decently attended though the crowd was at least 90% alumni and their families.


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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2022, 08:43:16 PM »
The event was decently attended though the crowd was at least 90% alumni and their families.


How do you know this?

I imagine he made the assumption that the parents who brought their children were not current Marquette students. Also, he’s a wizard.

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2022, 08:44:50 PM »
The event was decently attended though the crowd was at least 90% alumni and their families.


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He obviously asked every single person and made a list.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2022, 09:13:08 PM »
I imagine he made the assumption that the parents who brought their children were not current Marquette students. Also, he’s a wizard.

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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2022, 09:16:54 PM »
I imagine he made the assumption that the parents who brought their children were not current Marquette students. Also, he’s a wizard.
Parents, their children, and MU students……hey. Most of which are not alumni.

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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2022, 10:46:34 PM »
Parents, their children, and MU students……hey. Most of which are not alumni.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2022, 03:32:53 AM »
Parents, their children, and MU students……hey. Most of which are not alumni.

Seems a weird thing to be pedantic about…
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2022, 06:35:18 AM »
First time on scoop?
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2022, 06:44:50 AM »
Seems a weird thing to be pedantic about…
That’s priceless coming from you.

Was just curious as to how he reached the “at least 90%” number.


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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2022, 06:51:38 AM »
That’s priceless coming from you.

Was just curious as to how he reached the “at least 90%” number.


That’s the point. If *I* think it’s weirdly pedantic…
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