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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2022, 10:50:45 AM »
But now that it's been reported as cancelled from Marquette athletics, that's still exactly where they sit.

It would be like Marquette cancelling graduation ceremonies for 2025 and just mailing diplomas instead. They may not have put graduation on the actual calendar yet, but like Marquette Madness, it's an expected thing that happens every year.

Not a bad idea. I already had my job lined up ( in New Jersey) so I opted for the University to mail me my diploma. Nothing more boring in my opinion is sitting there listening to some politician/celebrity giving a commencement speech, throwing your cap in the air and everyone self congratulating each other for an outcome that should be expected after putting in all the work; and they don't even hand you your diploma at the commencement. I got more satisfaction receiving my first paycheck.

My parents were disappointed though and for that I do have some regrets.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2022, 10:53:16 AM »
The goal is getting the 3k of student season tickets holders at the Central Michigan game. Also, getting Marquette students who don't have season tickets or ever been to a game to be coming to this game.

Focus also will be on the practice at Fiserv Forum. Reviews from people that actually enjoy that event.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2022, 11:31:50 AM »
Social media engagement with the team throughout the off-season and preseason also makes this event a bit unnecessary.  Now they can post well-edited videos almost daily to hype up the student fan base.  Avoiding an awkwardly paced pseudo-practice was probably welcomed by the players and Shaka. 

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2022, 11:41:15 AM »
Madness drew no one in 2020 because it was 2020. It had minimal attendance last year because of a pandemic and masking requirements. A roughly 25-year tradition isn't exactly "we tried this a couple times and it didn't go great."

If Marquette wants to generate excitement around the new regime that already outperformed expectations, events like this are how you do it. Might that mean reimagining or innovating it? Sure. But cancelling it when the only other preseason options are the STH-only event at Fiserv and the kid-themed Haunted Hoops (particularly with no exhibition) seems short-sighted.

Frankly, their marketing recently has sucked. I never received my picking time mailer or point update this year. As I've been incredibly busy with a work transition, I missed my pick time because of that. Moving a buy game to the Al, cancelling Madness, the poorly attended picnic, and hiring a social media director with no Twitter experience isn't exactly a "we know what we're doing" approach.
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2022, 12:05:34 PM »
Madness drew no one in 2020 because it was 2020. It had minimal attendance last year because of a pandemic and masking requirements. A roughly 25-year tradition isn't exactly "we tried this a couple times and it didn't go great."

If Marquette wants to generate excitement around the new regime that already outperformed expectations, events like this are how you do it. Might that mean reimagining or innovating it? Sure. But cancelling it when the only other preseason options are the STH-only event at Fiserv and the kid-themed Haunted Hoops (particularly with no exhibition) seems short-sighted.

Frankly, their marketing recently has sucked. I never received my picking time mailer or point update this year. As I've been incredibly busy with a work transition, I missed my pick time because of that. Moving a buy game to the Al, cancelling Madness, the poorly attended picnic, and hiring a social media director with no Twitter experience isn't exactly a "we know what we're doing" approach.


I think these are legitimate criticisms. But I think when people are saying that losing Madness isn't that big of a deal, they are reflecting on what Madness was back in the day compared to how it has come off recently.  I agree that they should be doing SOMETHING to generate excitement, but I just feel that the current Madness concept was tired.
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2022, 12:13:26 PM »
Pretty disappointing.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2022, 12:15:59 PM »
My guess is that the players voted not to do it. I hate to say it but it had gotten kind of stale. I prefer the Haunted Hoops event
Has a date/time been announced for Haunted Hoops?

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2022, 12:18:48 PM »
If they wanted to do some event to generate hype, why not combine the STH picnic with a welcome back picnic for the students hosted by the Men’s and Women’s teams? Have a set time that coaches will talk and introduce the players. You could have a hoop setup and a table to register for tickets.

If there’s one thing I remember, free food brought a decent turnout for college students.

I feel like the period of the Drake’s of the world going to UK’s Madness set the expectations so high that anything else is kind of a letdown. Frankly, lack of success also hurts the excitement.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2022, 12:19:04 PM »
Madness drew no one in 2020 because it was 2020. It had minimal attendance last year because of a pandemic and masking requirements. A roughly 25-year tradition isn't exactly "we tried this a couple times and it didn't go great."

If Marquette wants to generate excitement around the new regime that already outperformed expectations, events like this are how you do it. Might that mean reimagining or innovating it? Sure. But cancelling it when the only other preseason options are the STH-only event at Fiserv and the kid-themed Haunted Hoops (particularly with no exhibition) seems short-sighted.

Frankly, their marketing recently has sucked. I never received my picking time mailer or point update this year. As I've been incredibly busy with a work transition, I missed my pick time because of that. Moving a buy game to the Al, cancelling Madness, the poorly attended picnic, and hiring a social media director with no Twitter experience isn't exactly a "we know what we're doing" approach.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2022, 12:22:33 PM »
Has a date/time been announced for Haunted Hoops?
Not yet. It's a bit early.
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2022, 12:22:59 PM »
For another school example, Xavier hold's Muskie Madness on Parent's Weekend as one of the family events.  Men's and Women's teams hold scrimmages and all people who attend get a t-shirt.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2022, 12:26:00 PM »
Has a date/time been announced for Haunted Hoops?

If they follow last year's calendar, the STH practice would be Thursday, October 13 & Haunted Hoops would be Sunday, October 30. Personally, I look forward to HH the most. Fantastic event.
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2022, 12:26:37 PM »
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2022, 12:27:11 PM »
Madness drew no one in 2020 because it was 2020. It had minimal attendance last year because of a pandemic and masking requirements. A roughly 25-year tradition isn't exactly "we tried this a couple times and it didn't go great."

If Marquette wants to generate excitement around the new regime that already outperformed expectations, events like this are how you do it. Might that mean reimagining or innovating it? Sure. But cancelling it when the only other preseason options are the STH-only event at Fiserv and the kid-themed Haunted Hoops (particularly with no exhibition) seems short-sighted.

Frankly, their marketing recently has sucked. I never received my picking time mailer or point update this year. As I've been incredibly busy with a work transition, I missed my pick time because of that. Moving a buy game to the Al, cancelling Madness, the poorly attended picnic, and hiring a social media director with no Twitter experience isn't exactly a "we know what we're doing" approach.

This is especially disappointing because Shaka and his VCU team took Richmond by storm. The entire metro area bought in. Of course, success on the court was a huge factor but their band and the way the students and other fans bought into Havoc and the game experience was contagious. It fed on itself. Granted, VCU being very strong in the performing (as well as the visual) arts helped with the creation of a great band, but I'm trying to focus on the overall effect.
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2022, 12:34:55 PM »
Madness drew no one in 2020 because it was 2020. It had minimal attendance last year because of a pandemic and masking requirements. A roughly 25-year tradition isn't exactly "we tried this a couple times and it didn't go great."

If Marquette wants to generate excitement around the new regime that already outperformed expectations, events like this are how you do it. Might that mean reimagining or innovating it? Sure. But cancelling it when the only other preseason options are the STH-only event at Fiserv and the kid-themed Haunted Hoops (particularly with no exhibition) seems short-sighted.

Frankly, their marketing recently has sucked. I never received my picking time mailer or point update this year. As I've been incredibly busy with a work transition, I missed my pick time because of that. Moving a buy game to the Al, cancelling Madness, the poorly attended picnic, and hiring a social media director with no Twitter experience isn't exactly a "we know what we're doing" approach.

I think it has lost its luster because of the practice rule changes. Though our relationship with FOX  has been beneficial I always thought college game day on ESPN really highlighted the programs that hosted the show. Despite that many here feel Crean still sucks he did sell Marquette basketball more than any coach in the last 20 years.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2022, 12:42:36 PM »
Right, but MU's statement kinda felt that way- "We are focusing promotional efforts on our regular-season games at both Fiserv Forum and the Al McGuire Center..."

Speaking of which, I reached out to them a week or so ago on when the STH single game tickets sales are now that the BE schedule is out? Crickets...

Can't sell tickets if you don't have a broad communication on timelines and process.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2022, 12:49:57 PM »
I mean, I get it, but that just sounds like something that schools say when they need a reason to say something.  They don't want to say "Madness has been drawing less people because it got boring."

Madness is drawing less people as they made it a student only event during homecoming (this weekend).  Students stuck around for the giveaways and intros and would leave.

That said, MU has a student only game this year at The Al instead.  More so, our next two recruiting classes are full so this isn't a big opportunity for recruits. The CMU game will be a better opportunity for future recruits.
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2022, 12:51:31 PM »
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2022, 12:54:15 PM »
Maybe they were afraid of another convocation-type protest…

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2022, 12:54:36 PM »
God damn cancel culture

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« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2022, 01:20:52 PM »
Speaking of which, I reached out to them a week or so ago on when the STH single game tickets sales are now that the BE schedule is out? Crickets...



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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2022, 01:37:44 PM »
But will complaining about no Madness be as fulfilling as complaining about how much Madness stunk?
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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2022, 01:55:44 PM »
That stuff always happens in October.

Again, my complaint is about communication and process, just like in this case with Madness where the student newspaper prompted the AD. When are these open scrimmages, when are the kickoff events, what are the packs, are there limits on single game purchases, is there a Halloween event, what are the costs, is there a Bud Light corner? When is NMD?

If MU's focus is selling, they need to market. It's like for the Summer BBQ event, the communication came shortly before and MU was surprised by the low turn out/sign up.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2022, 02:28:17 PM »
For another school example, Xavier hold's Muskie Madness on Parent's Weekend as one of the family events.  Men's and Women's teams hold scrimmages and all people who attend get a t-shirt.

This would be perfect.  Great idea.

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Re: Marquette Madness Cancelled
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2022, 02:35:26 PM »
Not yet. It's a bit early.
Why?  Is it a scheduling issue for MU to go out 1.5 months at the AL because of other sports/needs that would take priority or does MU basketball need flexibility?

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