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Next up: A long offseason

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MuggsyB

6'0 and under powerhouses:

Meminger
Miller
Hutchins
Rowsey
Howard


4everwarriors

Pretty sure Lisa Dooley and Gail Pudvan were under 6'0 ft., aina?



#freerocket2022v2

#freeziggy2022
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 16, 2022, 07:20:37 PM
Pretty sure Lisa Dooley and Gail Pudvan were under 6'0 ft., aina?



#freerocket2022v2

#freeziggy2022

Who?

Have rocket and ziggy been banned for some reason? 

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

We R Final Four

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 16, 2022, 07:20:37 PM
Pretty sure Lisa Dooley and Gail Pudvan were under 6'0 ft., aina?



#freerocket2022v2

#freeziggy2022
Haha—well done.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on August 16, 2022, 07:25:01 PM
70's era cheerleaders

And, yes.

Am I missing any additional badass sub 6 footers?

Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

We R Final Four

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 16, 2022, 07:26:55 PM
Am I missing any additional badass sub 6 footers?
Cheerleaders? Probably.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:
Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 16, 2022, 07:29:44 PM
First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:


Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson

Holy Hell.  I totally forgot about Dominic.  Inexcusable.  We've had a number of cool little guys.

MuggsyB


MuggsyB

Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.


BCHoopster

Menninger by far, Al thought the Alcindor rule hurt Menninger more than the big guy

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 16, 2022, 07:29:44 PM
First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:
Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson

Not a bust among them.  Adding Sean Jones.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 16, 2022, 07:40:07 PM
Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.
Ners could
Goal is National Championship
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Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 16, 2022, 07:40:07 PM
Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.

Dom James could absolutely dunk
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 16, 2022, 08:00:58 PM
Dom James could absolutely dunk

I meant the other guys.  I'll admit I was about 2 inches from touching the rim in my prime.  And I worked hard to increase my vert.  :(

wadesworld

Ners. And boy could he ever dunk.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 16, 2022, 08:03:25 PM
I meant the other guys.  I'll admit I was about 2 inches from touching the rim in my prime.  And I worked hard to increase my vert.  :(

I missed the "other" in your post. I saw Markus dunk in practice once. I imagine some of the others could but I can't remember any of them doing it in a game
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


real chili 83

Dunking at the rec center counts, eh?

The Thing

Does dunking a tennis ball count? Because if so I was a badass dunker.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: wadesworld on August 16, 2022, 08:22:45 PM
Ners. And boy could he ever dunk.

Thanks Wades.  Yes I could.  Pretty much anything you wanted from tomahawks to 360s.  However, I'm too tall at 6'2" and of course Rec League only.  But I appreciate the compliment.

Now another short guy who could fly during my time at MU was the walk-on, Mark Harris

MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 16, 2022, 08:49:14 PM
I missed the "other" in your post. I saw Markus dunk in practice once. I imagine some of the others could but I can't remember any of them doing it in a game

I believe Spud had a '48 and Nate Robinson  had a '45.  Muggsy had a '44 but couldn't palm the ball.  Mannigault had a '50 and was 6'1 at best.

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: BCHoopster on August 16, 2022, 07:48:50 PM
Menninger by far, Al thought the Alcindor rule hurt Menninger more than the big guy
[/quote

Meminger.


Gato78

I would not call The Dream diminutive. He was nothing like the others mentioned.His game was at the rim and he didn't out jump people. He was just crafty and quick.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Gato78 on August 16, 2022, 09:26:19 PM
I would not call The Dream diminutive. He was nothing like the others mentioned.His game was at the rim and he didn't out jump people. He was just crafty and quick.

How are you and Mrs. Gato doing?  He's listed at 6'0 which is my criteria. 

willie warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 16, 2022, 07:31:13 PM
Holy Hell.  I totally forgot about Dominic.  Inexcusable.  We've had a number of cool little guys.
Dont forget Artie Green
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: willie warrior on August 17, 2022, 05:26:15 AM
Dont forget Artie Green

Just checked,  Mr. Green was 6'1" so he misses MuggsyBs 6'0" cutoff
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Newsdreams

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 17, 2022, 06:19:39 AM
Just checked,  Mr. Green was 6'1" so he misses MuggsyBs 6'0" cutoff
Well if 6' Butch could dunk.
Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

romey

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 16, 2022, 07:29:44 PM
First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:
Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson
Pretty sure Gary Rosenberger could conntribute.

MuggsyB

Butch Lee was only 6'0??  Whooops!

I guess we have to start over.

wadesworld

Quote from: Elonsmusk on August 16, 2022, 08:58:26 PM
Thanks Wades.  Yes I could.  Pretty much anything you wanted from tomahawks to 360s.  However, I'm too tall at 6'2" and of course Rec League only.  But I appreciate the compliment.

Now another short guy who could fly during my time at MU was the walk-on, Mark Harris

SHEESH!  Thanks for the clarification.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 17, 2022, 08:44:08 AM
Butch Lee was only 6'0??  Whooops!

I guess we have to start over.

Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: romey on August 17, 2022, 08:27:24 AM
Pretty sure Gary Rosenberger could conntribute.

I'll have to take your word for it. I never saw him play and his career numbers don't jump off the page: 4.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg. Though I don't know how accurate the old record books are.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


withoutbias

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 17, 2022, 08:58:49 AM
I'll have to take your word for it. I never saw him play and his career numbers don't jump off the page: 4.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg. Though I don't know how accurate the old record books are.

Meaningless stats.  KenPom efficiency is what tells the real story.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WithoutBias on August 17, 2022, 09:08:04 AM
Meaningless stats.  KenPom efficiency is what tells the real story.

Sadly, we don't have that information from that era.  We'll have to rely on the Joe Beer Gut stats
"Well, we're all going to die."

MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 17, 2022, 08:57:08 AM
Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.

Okay.  Ty for getting the facts here.  My cutoff is non-negotiable.  :)

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 17, 2022, 09:19:01 AM
Sadly, we don't have that information from that era.  We'll have to rely on the Joe Beer Gut stats

Written in cuneiform on old clay tablets.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

THRILLHO

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 16, 2022, 07:40:07 PM
Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.
Cordell Henry dunked and also had an epic vertical.

TallTitan34



war1980rior

Quote from: romey on August 17, 2022, 08:27:24 AM
Pretty sure Gary Rosenberger could conntribute.
Rosenberger was well under 6'. He was listed as 6' but was substantially shorter than me (a good 3-4 inches).  I was 6'2" at the time.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 17, 2022, 08:57:08 AM
Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.

Diener is listed at 6'1" with a Miller Lite can balanced on his head.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 17, 2022, 08:44:08 AM
Butch Lee was only 6'0??  Whooops!

I guess we have to start over.
Yes, don't  know if with / without shoes
;D
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Newsdreams

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 17, 2022, 08:57:08 AM
Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.
Pretty sure he is barely 6'
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Newsdreams on August 17, 2022, 12:19:33 PM
Pretty sure he is barely 6'

Butch is 65 or 66 years old. If he WAS 6'0" in 1978 he probably IS about 5'10" now.

MuggsyB

Who's our starting all heavy team??  Is it alright if I slot Davante somewhere?  What a shame he lost focus his Sr. year.  I'm pretty sure he got up to 305 lbs. 

BCHoopster


Newsdreams

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 17, 2022, 04:48:26 PM
Butch is 65 or 66 years old. If he WAS 6'0" in 1978 he probably IS about 5'10" now.
Can go back 30 yrs standing by him...
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

LloydsLegs


LloydsLegs


tower912

Gardner
Key
Moore

Beyond that, we had a bunch of guys who were big, but not fat.

Copa.  6'9, 254, got invited to try out for the Cowboys after college.    But  not even slightly overweight.   
Jayce
Kerry Trotter and Pop Sims had round faces but weren't heavy.   Same with Derrick Wilson
Butch seemed like a thick body but wasn't obese. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Due da name, OD ring a bell, hey?




#freerocket2022v2

#freeziggy2022
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2022, 09:13:23 AM
Due da name, OD ring a bell, hey?





#freerocket2022v2

#freeziggy2022

Yes. No all portly MU Team would be complete without Odell Ball.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 18, 2022, 09:20:04 AM
Yes. No all portly MU Team would be complete without Odell Ball.

Was Cadougan in "portly" range?

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 18, 2022, 09:30:03 AM
Was Cadougan in "portly" range?

I would say Junior was "stout". Sounds nicer. ( Before his Senior year, I saw Junior Cadougan score 71 points in a Summer League game at Greenfield H.S. . Prior to that night, I wouldn't have bet that Junior could score 71 points if you left him alone in a gym for 40 minutes).

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: LloydsLegs on August 18, 2022, 08:24:41 AM
My apologies for stepping on your joke, Doc.

It wasn't a joke, just a fact.  ;)

NCMUFan

Maybe next thread is "ALL-played out of position" team.
Guys who did not play their natural position for MU.

MU82

All Trashed By Scoopers But Became Valuable Contributors Team:

Lockett
Blue
Reinhardt
Anim
O-Max

(I wasn't around these parts long enough ago to know if the likes of Jimmy and Jae were routinely ripped.)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM
All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

Justin Lewis
"Well, we're all going to die."

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM
All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

Wut? No #freerocket2022v2 #freeziggy2022??

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on August 18, 2022, 11:27:09 AM


(I wasn't around these parts long enough ago to know if the likes of Jimmy and Jae were routinely ripped.)

Jimmy was trashed for sure. Jae, not that I recall.

Goose

82


Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 18, 2022, 01:23:10 PM
Jimmy was trashed for sure. Jae, not that I recall.

Thanks for the info.

Quote from: Goose on August 18, 2022, 02:31:48 PM
Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

I don't remember it, but I don't doubt it.

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM
All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

Sam was pretty much worshipped during his time at Marquette. VSS ... many here were hoping he wouldn't go pro after a year or 2. Very, very few trashed Henry during his fine season at Marquette.

Of course, Markus Howard was trashed far more than any of the above during his time at MU -- including by you, a guy who knows so much stink about basketball that you thought the Bucks shoulda traded Giannis and all of his "smoes" right before the Bucks went on to win the title.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on August 18, 2022, 02:53:29 PM
Thanks for the info.

I don't remember it, but I don't doubt it.

Sam was pretty much worshipped during his time at Marquette. VSS ... many here were hoping he wouldn't go pro after a year or 2. Very, very few trashed Henry during his fine season at Marquette.

Of course, Markus Howard was trashed far more than any of the above during his time at MU -- including by you, a guy who knows so much stink about basketball that you thought the Bucks shoulda traded Giannis and all of his "smoes" right before the Bucks went on to win the title.

Imagine hating Markus Howard.  Amazing
"Well, we're all going to die."

Herman Cain

Quote from: Goose on August 18, 2022, 02:31:48 PM
82


Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.
He was regularly referred to as a Chucker early on until he started hitting lot of threes .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Goose on August 18, 2022, 02:31:48 PM
82


Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

100% true, Goose.

JWags85

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 18, 2022, 01:23:10 PM
Jimmy was trashed for sure. Jae, not that I recall.

I love JFB and I loved him at MU, but a good chunk of that trashing was justified for awhile.  He improved greatly into his Jr year but he was super soft.  It was infuriating.  I remember just getting tossed around down low and finishing abysmally inside.  He came back the next year stronger and meaner and the rest is history.

MUUWUWM

I ran into Odell Ball, at the speedway gas station and 92nd Burleigh, about two weeks ago.
I had on a Marquette Warriors cap, and he goes I like that cap!

He proceeds to Identify himself as Odell Ball.
We talked for a little bit, took a selfie with him.
He identified with the warrior logo versus the golden eagle which is why he spoke to me.

MU82

Quote from: MUUWUWM on August 18, 2022, 06:57:54 PM
I ran into Odell Ball, at the speedway gas station and 92nd Burleigh, about two weeks ago.
I had on a Marquette Warriors cap, and he goes I like that cap!

He proceeds to Identify himself as Odell Ball.
We talked for a little bit, took a selfie with him.
He identified with the warrior logo versus the golden eagle which is why he spoke to me.

Odell was the Warriors' center my freshman year. We had a nice team -- Sam Worthen, Bernard Toone, Michael Wilson, Oliver Lee, Robert Byrd, Odell Ball, Artie Green. We had DePaul in trouble in the NCAAT but blew a late lead (and effen DePaul went on to play in the Magic-Bird FF). The next offseason, the only recruit Hank signed was Terrell Schlundt, and the program was on its way downhill.

Odell was an above-average college center back then -- 11 ppg on 55% shooting. I enjoyed watching him play.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 18, 2022, 05:01:36 PM
He was regularly referred to as a Chucker early on until he started hitting lot of threes .

To defend this as I agreed, he was taking 30%+ of the shots early on and was NOT at all efficient (chucker). He settled in later and played much better. One of the better senior transfers.

That said, we didn't know then that Wojo wanted PG chuckers.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on August 18, 2022, 11:27:09 AM
All Trashed By Scoopers But Became Valuable Contributors Team:

Lockett
Blue
Reinhardt
Anim
O-Max

(I wasn't around these parts long enough ago to know if the likes of Jimmy and Jae were routinely ripped.)

Derrick Wilson, Jake Thomas

AlienWarrior

Did anyone mention Lloyd Walton?

Newsdreams

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2022, 11:49:36 AM
All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry
The BS on this one big it is...
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

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