My all-diminutive MU fab 5

[MuggsyB]

6'0 and under powerhouses:

Meminger
Miller
Hutchins
Rowsey
Howard

[4everwarriors]

Pretty sure Lisa Dooley and Gail Pudvan were under 6'0 ft., aina?



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[MuggsyB]

Pretty sure Lisa Dooley and Gail Pudvan were under 6'0 ft., aina?



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#freeziggy2022

Who?

Have rocket and ziggy been banned for some reason? 

[tower912]

70's era cheerleaders

And, yes.

[We R Final Four]

Pretty sure Lisa Dooley and Gail Pudvan were under 6'0 ft., aina?



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Haha—well done.

[MuggsyB]

70's era cheerleaders

And, yes.

Am I missing any additional badass sub 6 footers?

[Newsdreams]

Am I missing any additional badass sub 6 footers?

Me

[tower912]

Mandy Johnson.

[We R Final Four]

Am I missing any additional badass sub 6 footers?

Cheerleaders? Probably.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:
Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson

[MuggsyB]

First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:


Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson

Holy Hell.  I totally forgot about Dominic.  Inexcusable.  We've had a number of cool little guys.

[MuggsyB]

Dominic had a legit '43 btw.

[MuggsyB]

Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Me

Technically, 5 and under.

[BCHoopster]

Menninger by far, Al thought the Alcindor rule hurt Menninger more than the big guy

[Dr. Blackheart]

First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:
Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson

Not a bust among them.  Adding Sean Jones.

[Newsdreams]

Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.

Ners could

[Newsdreams]

Technically, 5 and under.

 




 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.

Dom James could absolutely dunk

[MuggsyB]

Dom James could absolutely dunk

I meant the other guys.  I'll admit I was about 2 inches from touching the rim in my prime.  And I worked hard to increase my vert. 

[wadesworld]

Ners. And boy could he ever dunk.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I meant the other guys.  I'll admit I was about 2 inches from touching the rim in my prime.  And I worked hard to increase my vert. 

I missed the "other" in your post. I saw Markus dunk in practice once. I imagine some of the others could but I can't remember any of them doing it in a game

[real chili 83]

Dunking at the rec center counts, eh?

[The Thing]

Does dunking a tennis ball count? Because if so I was a badass dunker.

[Elonsmusk]

Ners. And boy could he ever dunk.

Thanks Wades.  Yes I could.  Pretty much anything you wanted from tomahawks to 360s.  However, I'm too tall at 6'2" and of course Rec League only.  But I appreciate the compliment.

Now another short guy who could fly during my time at MU was the walk-on, Mark Harris

[MuggsyB]

I missed the "other" in your post. I saw Markus dunk in practice once. I imagine some of the others could but I can't remember any of them doing it in a game

I believe Spud had a '48 and Nate Robinson  had a '45.  Muggsy had a '44 but couldn't palm the ball.  Mannigault had a '50 and was 6'1 at best.

[Dickthedribbler]

Menninger by far, Al thought the Alcindor rule hurt Menninger more than the big guy
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Meminger.

[Gato78]

I would not call The Dream diminutive. He was nothing like the others mentioned.His game was at the rim and he didn’t out jump people. He was just crafty and quick.

[MuggsyB]

I would not call The Dream diminutive. He was nothing like the others mentioned.His game was at the rim and he didn’t out jump people. He was just crafty and quick.

How are you and Mrs. Gato doing?  He's listed at 6'0 which is my criteria. 

[willie warrior]

Holy Hell.  I totally forgot about Dominic.  Inexcusable.  We've had a number of cool little guys.

Dont forget Artie Green

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Dont forget Artie Green

Just checked,  Mr. Green was 6'1" so he misses MuggsyBs 6'0" cutoff

[Newsdreams]

Just checked,  Mr. Green was 6'1" so he misses MuggsyBs 6'0" cutoff

Well if 6' Butch could dunk.

[romey]

First Team:
Dean Meminger
Markus Howard
Dominic James
Tony Miller
Aaron Hutchins

2nd Team:
Andrew Rowsey
Cordell Henry
Mo Acker
David Cubillan
Mandy Johnson

Pretty sure Gary Rosenberger could conntribute.

[MuggsyB]

Butch Lee was only 6'0??  Whooops!

I guess we have to start over.

[wadesworld]

Thanks Wades.  Yes I could.  Pretty much anything you wanted from tomahawks to 360s.  However, I'm too tall at 6'2" and of course Rec League only.  But I appreciate the compliment.

Now another short guy who could fly during my time at MU was the walk-on, Mark Harris

SHEESH!  Thanks for the clarification.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Butch Lee was only 6'0??  Whooops!

I guess we have to start over.

Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Pretty sure Gary Rosenberger could conntribute.

I'll have to take your word for it. I never saw him play and his career numbers don't jump off the page: 4.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg. Though I don't know how accurate the old record books are.

[withoutbias]

I'll have to take your word for it. I never saw him play and his career numbers don't jump off the page: 4.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg. Though I don't know how accurate the old record books are.

Meaningless stats.  KenPom efficiency is what tells the real story.

[Uncle Rico]

Meaningless stats.  KenPom efficiency is what tells the real story.

Sadly, we don’t have that information from that era.  We’ll have to rely on the Joe Beer Gut stats

[MuggsyB]

Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.

Okay.  Ty for getting the facts here.  My cutoff is non-negotiable. 

[The Sultan of Semantics]

Sadly, we don’t have that information from that era.  We’ll have to rely on the Joe Beer Gut stats

Written in cuneiform on old clay tablets.

[THRILLHO]

Could any of these other guys dunk?  I was just curious.

Cordell Henry dunked and also had an epic vertical.

[TallTitan34]

Derrick Wilson Dunk: https://twitter.com/MUOverload/status/1479543362969612297?s=20&t=UH-NbR2WmOPeYMTfLAxqQg

[wadesworld]

Derrick Wilson Dunk: https://twitter.com/MUOverload/status/1479543362969612297?s=20&t=UH-NbR2WmOPeYMTfLAxqQg

How could Scoop forget?  Reminded Ners of himself.

[war1980rior]

Pretty sure Gary Rosenberger could conntribute.

Rosenberger was well under 6'. He was listed as 6' but was substantially shorter than me (a good 3-4 inches).  I was 6'2" at the time.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.

Diener is listed at 6'1" with a Miller Lite can balanced on his head.

[Newsdreams]

Butch Lee was only 6'0??  Whooops!

I guess we have to start over.

Yes, don't  know if with / without shoes
 

[Newsdreams]

Butch Lee was listed as 6'1" at Marquette but he was listed at 6'0" as a pro.

Pretty sure he is barely 6'

[Lennys Tap]

Pretty sure he is barely 6'

Butch is 65 or 66 years old. If he WAS 6’0” in 1978 he probably IS about 5’10” now.

[MuggsyB]

Who's our starting all heavy team??  Is it alright if I slot Davante somewhere?  What a shame he lost focus his Sr. year.  I'm pretty sure he got up to 305 lbs. 

[BCHoopster]

Damon Key right there

[Newsdreams]

Butch is 65 or 66 years old. If he WAS 6’0” in 1978 he probably IS about 5’10” now.

Can go back 30 yrs standing by him...

[LloydsLegs]

Me

I guess a sub five footer also is sub six feet.

[LloydsLegs]

Technically, 5 and under.

My apologies for stepping on your joke, Doc.

[tower912]

Gardner
Key
Moore

Beyond that, we had a bunch of guys who were big, but not fat.

Copa.  6'9, 254, got invited to try out for the Cowboys after college.    But  not even slightly overweight.   
Jayce
Kerry Trotter and Pop Sims had round faces but weren't heavy.   Same with Derrick Wilson
Butch seemed like a thick body but wasn't obese. 

[4everwarriors]

Due da name, OD ring a bell, hey?




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[Dickthedribbler]

Due da name, OD ring a bell, hey?





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Yes. No all portly MU Team would be complete without Odell Ball.

[MuggsyB]

Yes. No all portly MU Team would be complete without Odell Ball.

Was Cadougan in "portly" range?

[Dickthedribbler]

Was Cadougan in "portly" range?

I would say Junior was "stout". Sounds nicer. ( Before his Senior year, I saw Junior Cadougan score 71 points in a Summer League game at Greenfield H.S. . Prior to that night, I wouldn't have bet that Junior could score 71 points if you left him alone in a gym for 40 minutes).

[Dr. Blackheart]

My apologies for stepping on your joke, Doc.

It wasn't a joke, just a fact. 

[NCMUFan]

Maybe next thread is "ALL-played out of position" team.
Guys who did not play their natural position for MU.

[MU82]

All Trashed By Scoopers But Became Valuable Contributors Team:

Lockett
Blue
Reinhardt
Anim
O-Max

(I wasn't around these parts long enough ago to know if the likes of Jimmy and Jae were routinely ripped.)

[4everwarriors]

All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

[Uncle Rico]

All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

Justin Lewis

[The Sultan of Semantics]

Justin Lewis

Tom Crean

[Spotcheck Billy]

All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

Wut? No #freerocket2022v2 #freeziggy2022??

[Lennys Tap]

(I wasn't around these parts long enough ago to know if the likes of Jimmy and Jae were routinely ripped.)

Jimmy was trashed for sure. Jae, not that I recall.

[Goose]

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Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

[MU82]

Jimmy was trashed for sure. Jae, not that I recall.

Thanks for the info.

Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

I don't remember it, but I don't doubt it.

All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

Sam was pretty much worshipped during his time at Marquette. VSS ... many here were hoping he wouldn't go pro after a year or 2. Very, very few trashed Henry during his fine season at Marquette.

Of course, Markus Howard was trashed far more than any of the above during his time at MU -- including by you, a guy who knows so much stink about basketball that you thought the Bucks shoulda traded Giannis and all of his "smoes" right before the Bucks went on to win the title.

[Uncle Rico]

Thanks for the info.

I don't remember it, but I don't doubt it.

Sam was pretty much worshipped during his time at Marquette. VSS ... many here were hoping he wouldn't go pro after a year or 2. Very, very few trashed Henry during his fine season at Marquette.

Of course, Markus Howard was trashed far more than any of the above during his time at MU -- including by you, a guy who knows so much stink about basketball that you thought the Bucks shoulda traded Giannis and all of his "smoes" right before the Bucks went on to win the title.

Imagine hating Markus Howard.  Amazing

[Herman Cain]

82


Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

He was regularly referred to as a Chucker early on until he started hitting lot of threes .

[Lennys Tap]

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Matt Carlino took a lot of abuse early in his time at MU.

100% true, Goose.

[JWags85]

Jimmy was trashed for sure. Jae, not that I recall.

I love JFB and I loved him at MU, but a good chunk of that trashing was justified for awhile.  He improved greatly into his Jr year but he was super soft.  It was infuriating.  I remember just getting tossed around down low and finishing abysmally inside.  He came back the next year stronger and meaner and the rest is history.

[MUUWUWM]

I ran into Odell Ball, at the speedway gas station and 92nd Burleigh, about two weeks ago.
I had on a Marquette Warriors cap, and he goes I like that cap!

He proceeds to Identify himself as Odell Ball.
We talked for a little bit, took a selfie with him.
He identified with the warrior logo versus the golden eagle which is why he spoke to me.

[MU82]

I ran into Odell Ball, at the speedway gas station and 92nd Burleigh, about two weeks ago.
I had on a Marquette Warriors cap, and he goes I like that cap!

He proceeds to Identify himself as Odell Ball.
We talked for a little bit, took a selfie with him.
He identified with the warrior logo versus the golden eagle which is why he spoke to me.

Odell was the Warriors' center my freshman year. We had a nice team -- Sam Worthen, Bernard Toone, Michael Wilson, Oliver Lee, Robert Byrd, Odell Ball, Artie Green. We had DePaul in trouble in the NCAAT but blew a late lead (and effen DePaul went on to play in the Magic-Bird FF). The next offseason, the only recruit Hank signed was Terrell Schlundt, and the program was on its way downhill.

Odell was an above-average college center back then -- 11 ppg on 55% shooting. I enjoyed watching him play.

[Dr. Blackheart]

He was regularly referred to as a Chucker early on until he started hitting lot of threes .

To defend this as I agreed, he was taking 30%+ of the shots early on and was NOT at all efficient (chucker). He settled in later and played much better. One of the better senior transfers.

That said, we didn't know then that Wojo wanted PG chuckers.

[Dr. Blackheart]

All Trashed By Scoopers But Became Valuable Contributors Team:

Lockett
Blue
Reinhardt
Anim
O-Max

(I wasn't around these parts long enough ago to know if the likes of Jimmy and Jae were routinely ripped.)

Derrick Wilson, Jake Thomas

[AlienWarrior]

Did anyone mention Lloyd Walton?

[Newsdreams]

All Trashed By Some Scoopers Who Don't Know Stink, Aina?

Vanilla Soft Serve
Sam
Henry

The BS on this one big it is...