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The Sultan

Quote from: panda on July 31, 2022, 08:14:44 PM
Good point - Being the best of the best during his timeframe really isn't that impressive after the fact.

I never said it wasn't impressive. Boy people really have trouble with logic today.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 31, 2022, 07:51:45 PM
You're in denial Fluffy. And when you are called out you attempt to manipulate and are inordinately unsuccessful.  That doesn't mean that on every topic you have idiotic points, but in this case you have failed spectacularly.  Maybe take 5 minutes, look at Mr. Russell's career, and stop projecting utter nonsense for self-serving purposes.. 

Ummm.... He had a great career. Never stated otherwise. But the reason 11/13 will never happen again is mostly due to the differences in the game now.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dr. Blackheart

#27
So all time Jesuit team: Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, Patrick Ewing, Bob Cousy, AI, Steve Nash, John Stockton and DW3.

wadesworld

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 31, 2022, 10:03:43 PM
So all time Jesuit team: Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, Patrick Ewing, Bob Cousy, AI, Steve Nash, John Stockton and DW3.

Markus Howard.

*ducks*

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on July 31, 2022, 10:41:19 PM
Markus Howard.

*ducks*

Eight Hall of Famers, top 50 all timers and an end of the bench NBA guy. Hmmm...

MuggsyB

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on July 31, 2022, 09:18:55 PM
Ummm.... He had a great career. Never stated otherwise. But the reason 11/13 will never happen again is mostly due to the differences in the game now.

"He had a great career".  That's not how one would describe someone who won 15 titles and 11/13 in the NBA.  That sounds more like how people would describe Al Horford or  Rudy Golbert.  The fact that "it will never happen again" doesn't lessen his accomplishments.  Stop trying to justify your comments with more Fluffysplaining nonsense.  The man was an absolute legend, the greatest winner in the history of team sports, and a tremendous human being.  But instead of praising him you go into some drivel mode that is completely irrelevant to anyone but Fluffy. 

4everwarriors

Spanked, hey?


#freerocket2022
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2022, 05:31:23 AM
"He had a great career".  That's not how one would describe someone who won 15 titles and 11/13 in the NBA.  That sounds more like how people would describe Al Horford or  Rudy Golbert.  The fact that "it will never happen again" doesn't lessen his accomplishments.  Stop trying to justify your comments with more Fluffysplaining nonsense.  The man was an absolute legend, the greatest winner in the history of team sports, and a tremendous human being.  But instead of praising him you go into some drivel mode that is completely irrelevant to anyone but Fluffy. 

Well I guess reading remains a challenge for you.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 31, 2022, 11:13:47 PM
Eight Hall of Famers, top 50 all timers and an end of the bench NBA guy. Hmmm...

😂😂😂😂

real chili 83

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on July 31, 2022, 07:31:58 PM
Do you always lie to make your points?  Chicos did that too. Must be a short person thing.

Ban hammer?

Sultan gets pinned and resorts to a personal attack.

4everwarriors

Ad hominem, aina?



#freerocket2022
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Jesus people, Sultans right. The game has changed and as a result, no team will win that many championships in that short of a span again. That doesn't diminish Russell's accomplishments. He is still an undisputed top 10 all time player and should be a top 5 player all time.
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TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 01, 2022, 07:28:45 AM
Jesus people, Sultans right. The game has changed and as a result, no team will win that many championships in that short of a span again. That doesn't diminish Russell's accomplishments. He is still an undisputed top 10 all time player and should be a top 5 player all time.

Yes.  Russell's legacy is greater than the titles.  The on the court stuff is part of his legacy but not the most important. 
Guster is for Lovers

ATL MU Warrior


Uncle Rico

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 01, 2022, 07:39:36 AM
Did Rocket get banned?

Apparently so.  Maybe that new message board will open now. 
Guster is for Lovers

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 01, 2022, 07:41:34 AM
Apparently so.  Maybe that new message board will open now.
That's too bad. He was unintentionally entertaining.

MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 01, 2022, 07:28:45 AM
Jesus people, Sultans right. The game has changed and as a result, no team will win that many championships in that short of a span again. That doesn't diminish Russell's accomplishments. He is still an undisputed top 10 all time player and should be a top 5 player all time.

Yes. And every single poster here, and person on the planet,  knows the game has changed  and 11/13 is improbable today.  These are "points" no one mentioned other than Fluffy because they have no reason to be mentioned at all. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2022, 07:51:31 AM
Yes. And every single poster here, and person on the planet,  knows the game has changed  and 11/13 is improbable today.  These are "points" no one mentioned other than Fluffy because they have no reason to be mentioned at all.

There's also no reason to rant and rave about it
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 01, 2022, 07:56:16 AM
There's also no reason to rant and rave about it

There's nothing wrong with ranting a little bit. These are not parallel arguments. 

tower912

Fluffy isn't wrong.  For whatever reason, this triggers you, Muggsy.

Russell is an all time great.
The game has changed in such a way that 11-13 is unlikely to ever happen again.

Both are true.

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2022, 07:15:25 AM
Ad hominem, aina?



#freerocket2022

Why was he banned?  I guess I missed that.

MuggsyB

#46
Quote from: tower912 on August 01, 2022, 07:59:55 AM
Fluffy isn't wrong.  For whatever reason, this triggers you, Muggsy.

Russell is an all time great.
The game has changed in such a way that 11-13 is unlikely to ever happen again.

Both are true.



Uh....no one wrote he was wrong about the game changing and 11/13 is unlikely.

tower912

Muggsy, you went off due to a statement that in no way demeaned or diminished Bill Russell.   You can choose this hill to make your stand, but there is no dragon out there.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lawdog77

Yeah, Muggs, I think it might be the messenger and not the message. I read Sultans comment and saw no disrespect of Russell. I made up that he was just pointing out that we will likely never see a team dominate like that again.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on July 31, 2022, 04:47:30 PM
More due to the nature of sport and not Bill Russell.

I respectfully, completely disagree Lawdog.  This was his first sentence on the passing of the great Bill Russell.  Then his stated he was "a great player" as if he was describing Al Horford.

Would the WSJ have on their front page:

Bill Russell, NBA Legend Who Won 11 Rings, Dies at 88 and a picture of  him below the caption if this was just another player?

That's how Fluffy essentially described him.

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