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The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 06, 2022, 02:42:48 PM
I think Trump is a clown but I don't think that story proved your point.

I think it does. Sorry you can't see it.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

The Lakers lost again.  2-7.  :)

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2022, 08:55:20 AM
Nads,
I've never wavered from this my entire life. But, until Jews, themselves, rise up and push back, nothing will change, nothing. That also means not supporting known anti-Semitic politicians, like the squad and Barnes, hey?

It's so depressing that you're so close to being reasonable sometimes.  And then you say idiotic things like this.

wadesworld

LeBron on Takeoff: "I was listening to those guys my 1st year with the Heat in 2010. They had no idea what a Migos was. They were cursing me out when I would play it in the locker room. I was like 'These guys are next, I'm letting you know right now.'"

Migos released their first music in August of 2011...

MuggsyB

The Nets hired Vaughn, not Udoka. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 09, 2022, 11:24:08 AM
The Nets hired Vaughn, not Udoka.
Just heard on the radio; Nets with Irving #30 defense, without Irving #1 defense. Oof!

Jockey

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 09, 2022, 02:25:18 PM
Just heard on the radio; Nets with Irving #30 defense, without Irving #1 defense. Oof!

Irving is a cancer on the floor and off.

MuggsyB

Are Holiday and Antetokounmpo hurt?  I see that both are not playing tonight?  What gives?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 09, 2022, 07:40:01 PM
Are Holiday and Antetokounmpo hurt?  I see that both are not playing tonight?  What gives?

They have diarrhea
Guster is for Lovers

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 09, 2022, 07:40:01 PM
Are Holiday and Antetokounmpo hurt?  I see that both are not playing tonight?  What gives?

Holiday twisted his ankle Monday, Giannis sits out road games against garbage teams a lot. Officially a "sore knee."

Current day Serge might be the worst defender to ever play. He plays the drop coverage in a way that he's always 8 feet off the ball handler. I swear if the ball handler continued driving at him to the rim he'd continue backing away into the hoop stanchion. And my bid is Nwora horrendous. Was hoping he could at least put up offensive numbers to at least be a piece in a trade.

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on November 09, 2022, 08:02:20 PM
Holiday twisted his ankle Monday, Giannis sits out road games against garbage teams a lot. Officially a "sore knee."

Current day Serge might be the worst defender to ever play. He plays the drop coverage in a way that he's always 8 feet off the ball handler. I swear if the ball handler continued driving at him to the rim he'd continue backing away into the hoop stanchion. And my bid is Nwora horrendous. Was hoping he could at least put up offensive numbers to at least be a piece in a trade.

Sounds like load management.  Would you package a deal to get Crowder?  I'm kind of torn. 

Billy Hoyle

Kind of NBA related, Fred Hickman dead at 66. One of the original hosts of Inside the NBA, famous for being the lone voter to prevent Shaq from being the unanimous MVP in 2000, he was a trailblazer in sports broadcasting. Sports Tonight on CNN with him and Nick Charles was better than Sportscenter by far. RIP.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MuggsyB

The Lakers are closing in on 2-9.  Could they conceivably trade Lebron?

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 09, 2022, 11:03:38 PM
The Lakers are closing in on 2-9.  Could they conceivably trade Lebron?

I think Davis is more likely to be dealt.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 09, 2022, 10:27:09 PM
Kind of NBA related, Fred Hickman dead at 66. One of the original hosts of Inside the NBA, famous for being the lone voter to prevent Shaq from being the unanimous MVP in 2000, he was a trailblazer in sports broadcasting. Sports Tonight on CNN with him and Nick Charles was better than Sportscenter by far. RIP.

Great career, but he was still a Skip Bayless level contrarian hater with that terrible vote.  2000 Shaq was preposterous.  30/14/4.  He had more games over 40 than he did under 20, including that 61 and 23 game against the Clippers.  Just unreal.

As for the Lakers, I've seen them sending AD to the Bulls for Lavine and others.  I'd love that, cause Lavine won't fall in line behind Westbrook and Lebron ball dominating.  I don't see that working at all...so I hope they do it

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JWags85 on November 10, 2022, 12:28:11 AM
As for the Lakers, I've seen them sending AD to the Bulls for Lavine and others.  I'd love that, cause Lavine won't fall in line behind Westbrook and Lebron ball dominating.  I don't see that working at all...so I hope they do it
I'd agree with that. Lavine needs to be a third option, even if he doesn't think so. The Bulls are clearly on there way to a .500 season as they continue to get older and worse. This would make sense for the Bull's bumbling front office and the embarrassing Laker's front office (aka LBJ).

wadesworld

"I gotta learn how to flop or something. Seriously, I need to learn how to do that. Swipe my head back or do something to get to the free-throw line. Cause the 'I missed it' is getting too repetitive."

LeBron's got jokes.

MuggsyB

Utah may be for real which is incredible if you think about it.  Markannen has been fantastic.  I don't think they can tank now.  I could see then trying to deal Conley or some of their older players but I think they have to play out the season and build around their younger guys.  They also have tons of first round picks.  Why wouldn't they  try and find a star or another piece?

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 10, 2022, 10:42:36 AM
Utah may be for real which is incredible if you think about it.  Markannen has been fantastic.  I don't think they can tank now.  I could see then trying to deal Conley or some of their older players but I think they have to play out the season and build around their younger guys.  They also have tons of first round picks.  Why wouldn't they  try and find a star or another piece?

Because while they are for real in terms of making the Western conference playoff, they aren't a title contender even with let's say a Bradley Beal type player.  Or even KD.  You'd need to trade away young talent (taking away from your current rotation) plus give up your future draft picks to get that level of player.

Let's say you don't even need to trade away current players, and you're able to get KD.  KD is good enough to be the best player on a title team.  But Lauri Markkanen and Jordan Clarkson aren't good enough to be your second and third best players, even with how well they're playing right now.

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on November 10, 2022, 10:49:55 AM
Because while they are for real in terms of making the Western conference playoff, they aren't a title contender even with let's say a Bradley Beal type player.  Or even KD.  You'd need to trade away young talent (taking away from your current rotation) plus give up your future draft picks to get that level of player.

Let's say you don't even need to trade away current players, and you're able to get KD.  KD is good enough to be the best player on a title team.  But Lauri Markkanen and Jordan Clarkson aren't good enough to be your second and third best players, even with how well they're playing right now.

I'm honestly not sure about that.  Is there a dominant tean in the West?  They may legitimately be a top 3 team in their conference right now.  if they packaged something for Durant you don't believe they would have a shot?

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 10, 2022, 11:09:35 AM
I'm honestly not sure about that.  Is there a dominant tean in the West?  They may legitimately be a top 3 team in their conference right now.  if they packaged something for Durant you don't believe they would have a shot?

I do not.  Who would they have that the Nets would want?  Markkanen...

They have the picks to send them.  They don't have the players that would allow them to remain competitive.  And the Suns, Grizzlies, and Nuggets are definitely better than them, even if they made a trade for KD.  Warriors will figure things out.  And if Kawhi ever decides he wants to play the Clippers would be better too.

MU82

In 2016-17, the Hornets started 6-1 and were still sitting at a respectable 14-9 midway through December. Kemba was an All-Star, and they were getting great production from role players like Nic Batum and Marvin Williams.

They ended up 36-46.

So we'll see about the Jazz.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 10, 2022, 11:09:35 AM
I'm honestly not sure about that.  Is there a dominant tean in the West?  They may legitimately be a top 3 team in their conference right now.  if they packaged something for Durant you don't believe they would have a shot?

You get way too fired up about the early part of the season.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85


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