Just Breathe

[MU2007]

Today was objectively awful and hard to watch. However, the season as a whole was wildly successful. Shaka took a group of mixed parts that never really fit to the tourney, if you told me in November we'd make the tourney I would've taken it in a heartbeat while also not believing it.

Deep breath, the future is bright, let's give Shaka a chance once he gets the guys he wants for his system.

[Fred Garvin]

Absolutely agree!! Hope he recruits the hell out of 23 and 24!!

[willie warrior]

I brfeathed and still smell BS

[MDMU04]

Awful game, but that's all it was.  Flush the toilet on this one and move on.

Let the silly season begin.

[Johnny B]

idk if agree on what "wild success means"

[CountryRoads]

Agreed. The fact that Shaka took this group of misfits to the tournament is all I can ask for as a fan.

It's not Shaka's fault that Wojo drilled the program into the ground for 7 years. Really getting desperate for a tournament win though.

[Boozemon Barro]

idk if agree on what "wild success means"

I think all the former projos are happy with basically anything.

[MU2007]

idk if agree on what "wild success means"

Picked 9th in big East preseason, making the tourney, beating Nova twice...

[goldeneagle91114]

Shaka gets a C grade. Was one of 64 teams to make the tournament and finished in the middle of the conference. A few good wins, a few bad losses.

Upside Perspective - made the tourney year 1

Downside Perspective - Feb/March "fades" are a real thing.

Let's see what the offseason looks like before we evaluate next year. Some key pieces are leaving, but the portal provides an opportunity to find better players then the ones that transferred in this year.

[RushmoreAcademy]

I think all the former projos are happy with basically anything.

Was not a projo and still understand how we overperformed expectations.

[MU2007]

Was not a projo and still understand how we overperformed expectations.

No place for logic here! 😂

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I brfeathed and still smell BS

Go the dentist.  Maybe 4ever can help but probably not. 

[Johnny B]

Picked 9th in big East preseason, making the tourney, beating Nova twice...

they exceeded bottom tier big east level expectations. yay.... doesnt mean much to me. the trending down the last 3rd of season and a historic loss in the tournament feels like it bears more weight

[The Sultan]

Deep breath, the future is bright, let's give Shaka a chance once he gets the guys he wants for his system.

He recruited every player for this team except the first team all Big East one.

Look, the last six weeks was bad.  The same things we criticized Wojo and Crean for, the lack of preparation and adjustments, were front and center during the end of the year.  Frankly it is frustrating.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

they exceeded bottom tier big east level expectations. yay.... doesnt mean much to me. the trending down the last 3rd of season and a historic loss in the tournament feels like it bears more weight

That's how you want to process it.  For me it's the opposite.  No one is right or wrong yet....let's see how Shaka builds and how players develop into next season. 

[Boozemon Barro]

Was not a projo and still understand how we overperformed expectations.

Whose expectations? External expectations are worthless to me. Do you think the team met their internal expectations?

[MU2007]

He recruited every player for this team except the first team all Big East one.

Look, the last six weeks was bad.  The same things we criticized Wojo and Crean for, the lack of preparation and adjustments, were front and center during the end of the year.  Frankly it is frustrating.

You're proving my point. Relying on freshman and transfers as the majority of your team is almost impossible unless they're all McDonald's all Americans. He inherited a team w Lewis and Elliott and made the tourney, to me that seems impressive.

[JakeBarnes]

Awful game, but that's all it was.  Flush the toilet on this one and move on.

Let the silly season begin.

Buzz wouldnt

[The Sultan]

You're proving my point. Relying on freshman and transfers as the majority of your team is almost impossible unless they're all McDonald's all Americans. He inherited a team w Lewis and Elliott and made the tourney, to me that seems impressive.

I am not saying the season was a failure.  But you said "gets the guys he wants for his system."  Pretty much every guy on the team was a guy he wanted.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I am not saying the season was a failure.  But you said "gets the guys he wants for his system."  Pretty much every guy on the team was a guy he wanted.

So you don't think there were limits in regards to how he could build this team?   

[The Sultan]

So you don't think there were limits in regards to how he could build this team?   

I never said that.  I just don't think the initial statement was accurate.

[MU2007]

So you don't think there were limits in regards to how he could build this team?   

This

[MDMU04]

I am not saying the season was a failure.  But you said "gets the guys he wants for his system."  Pretty much every guy on the team was a guy he wanted.

He picked the guys on this roster, that's true.  But I think you have to acknowledge that there's a fundamental difference between how he had to go about putting this year's team together to be competitive for this season, and building the program over the long term.

[The Sultan]

He picked the guys on this roster, that's true.  But I think you have to acknowledge that there's a fundamental difference between how he had to go about putting this year's team together to be competitive for this season, and building the program over the long term.

I will note the fact that you significantly shifted the goalposts.  But sure.

[Warrior of Law]

You're judged by NCAA results.  In the last ten years, MU is 0-3 with an average margin of defeat of 23.7 points.  There's a long way to go for this program and coach.