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MuggsyB

I think Miami beats Kansas.

MuggsyB

Ridiculous call on that flop.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 27, 2022, 01:19:59 PM
I think Miami beats Kansas.

I think Kansas is the best team left but Martin tends to overtake the ball sometimes and against Miami, that could be a problem
Guster is for Lovers

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on March 27, 2022, 01:00:44 PM
You said "umm no" like it was some ridiculous comparison which Gillespie clearly wins, thus I got hyperbolic.  Especially when comparing their 4 year numbers since Gillespie neither had an injury or redshirt to get him to a 5th year.

Nothing backs that up. "Much more consistent" from inside the arc? Arch was shot 48%/43%/50% from inside from Soph to Senior year.  Gillespie? 47/46/48 (then 47% this year.  A wash at worst.

Arch improved to a 40% 3P shooter (about 39% over his final 2 seasons), Gillespie hovered around 37% till this season.  Again, always better? Not sure how.

If you wanna say your opinion or some nebulous "eye test" with recency bias, fine.  But statistically there isn't a ton to separate them, certainly not with any pronounced descriptors.

They are both fantastic college players with marginal pro prospects

You keep cherry picking years hahaha

Gillepsie was much more consistent over every single season that he played colelge compared to when archie did.

He shot better from 3 through the course of his career. ANd better from the line.

Archidianco is not the better shooter. So "ummm no" was correct. And it should literally be left at that.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on March 26, 2022, 08:56:14 PM
How was Duke before K got there? Did he just bring in the top talent in the country year one?

Come on. He's the best coach in modern college basketball history. It's not even close. Jim Larranaga better than K? LOL!

If you include recruiting, K is the best. In my initial post, I was talking just X's and O's.

My radical concept is that it is easier to win when you have better players.

If Miami makes it to the Final 4 - what was harder? Doing it with 5-6 guys who will be drafted or getting there with no one (1 at most) who will be drafted?

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2022, 12:47:02 PM
Carolina and Kansas get it done for a classic basketball diehards Final 4

I may puke if it's a Kansas vs North Carolina final.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on March 27, 2022, 02:25:40 PM
If you include recruiting, K is the best. In my initial post, I was talking just X's and O's.

My radical concept is that it is easier to win when you have better players.

If Miami makes it to the Final 4 - what was harder? Doing it with 5-6 guys who will be drafted or getting there with no one (1 at most) who will be drafted?

You're being incredibly short sighted. K had this roster full of pros because he coached kids into pros throughout his career.

Larranaga has been at Miami for 11 years. This is the first time he's in the Elite Eight with them. And he's doing it as a 10 seed. They're hot at the right time.

Even in his very best season at Miami, Duke is a better team.

K is the best coach in modern college basketball history. And Jim Larranaga is not even a top 10 contender for that his main competition.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on March 27, 2022, 02:25:40 PM
If you include recruiting, K is the best. In my initial post, I was talking just X's and O's.

My radical concept is that it is easier to win when you have better players.

If Miami makes it to the Final 4 - what was harder? Doing it with 5-6 guys who will be drafted or getting there with no one (1 at most) who will be drafted?


That doesn't necessarily mean the coach is a better Xs and Os coach. Teams get hot. Teams get lucky. But I've never watched a Miami game and was overwhelmed by how well coached they are. I mean they're fine but nothing special.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

Kansas is tied right now while have 0 3s and 4/12 at the line.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Kansas is playing a home game and obviously better.  I still think Miami can pull this off.

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 27, 2022, 02:46:25 PM
Kansas is playing a home game and obviously better.  I still think Miami can pull this off.

Kansas plays a home game in every NCAA Tournament game they play in.

The good news for Miami is they have the best coach to ever coach the game leading them, so they should be able to stop this momentum with one good timeout.

MuggsyB

Or not.....this game is over

Moore has been an abomination this half.

MuggsyB

#1287
The teams left in this tournament are much more physical defensively than MU.  On and especially off the ball.  We need to increase our quickness overall physicality.  It's non negotiable.

panda

These refs stink. Or do they stink more than usual? Or do college refs just always stink?

I think officiating in college hoops may be a problem.

MUfan12

Quote from: panda on March 27, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
These refs stink. Or do they stink more than usual? Or do college refs just always stink?

I think officiating in college hoops may be a problem.

It's a huge problem, but the vast majority of people pay no attention to the sport for three weeks, so there's no real incentive to make changes.

The Sultan

If Coach K were coaching this Miami team, they'd be down 30 at this point.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Jim's X's and O's look a lot like Wojo's this half. A lot of one on one deep 3 point possessions.

MUEng92

Quote from: panda on March 27, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
These refs stink. Or do they stink more than usual? Or do college refs just always stink?

I think officiating in college hoops may be a problem.
Ironically, the game intro included reciting the lengthy resumes of all three of these refs including I believe saying one was voted best ref in the game

Tyler COLEk

#1293
Can we all take a moment to appreciate the quality of broadcasters throughout March Madness? 15 short years ago we'd be suffering through Billy Packer right now.

JWags85

Quote from: TwoWords on March 27, 2022, 03:25:11 PM
Can we all take a moment to appreciate the quality of broadcasters throughout March Madness? 15 short years ago we'd be suffering through Billy Packer right now.

I respected Billy Packer's ability to be crotchety, bitter, and annoying about LITERALLY everything

MuggsyB

The Peacocks look stressed.

Johnny B

back down to earth for the cocks

ChitownSpaceForRent

What an incredibly unlikeable final four. Thank god for Nova

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

The clock has struck midnight.  Hell of a run, Cinderella.

The Sultan

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 27, 2022, 04:42:50 PM
What an incredibly unlikeable final four. Thank god for Nova

TBS will love it. Ratings will be huge.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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