Seed Matters

[We R Final Four]

How many threads are you gonna post this in?

[Shark]

10

[NinjaWes]

There isn't a universe in which we'd get bounced if we lose badly to the Johnnies and in the BET right?! Losing 1 game to DePaul always feels like it counts as 5...

[PointWarrior]

Seed don't matter, this team playing as they have played since Villanova is not going anywhere, may not even win another game this year.

[CountryRoads]

There isn't a universe in which we'd get bounced if we lose badly to the Johnnies and in the BET right?! Losing 1 game to DePaul always feels like it counts as 5...

Losing to DePaul, St Johns and Georgetown to end the year is not out of the realm of possibility.

[Johnny B]

There isn't a universe in which we'd get bounced if we lose badly to the Johnnies and in the BET right?! Losing 1 game to DePaul always feels like it counts as 5...

no but two blowouts to finish out puts dayton in the convo.

[GoldenEagles03]

10

Nah. They are a 9 after tonight.

Might be able to chalk up Saturday as an L though. Champagnie is better than Freeman-Liberty and Posh Alexander is the best on ball defender in the league.

Nightmare matchup for Kolek with how he's looked lately.  Not sure MU has the legs to finish out the week. Justin struggled to get up and down the court tonight. Greg got hurt. Kur couldn't stay on the floor.

Lose Saturday and they are a 10.

[Shark]

Nah. They are a 9 after tonight.

Might be able to chalk up Saturday as an L though. Champagnie is better than Freeman-Liberty and Posh Alexander is the best on ball defender in the league.

Nightmare matchup for Kolek with how he's looked lately.  Not sure MU has the legs to finish out the week. Justin struggled to get up and down the court tonight. Greg got hurt. Kur couldn't stay on the floor.

Lose Saturday and they are a 10.

That was baked in. I will be shocked if they win another game this year.

[GoldenEagles03]

That was baked in. I will be shocked if they win another game this year.

Ahhh got it.  If they lose to St. John's they'll have to play Georgetown so they should win that one at least.

[Johnny B]

That was baked in. I will be shocked if they win another game this year.

youll be shocked if they beat st johns at home with packed house? 🙃

[Shark]

youll be shocked if they beat st johns at home with packed house? 🙃

Yes. We are fresh off watching this team struggle vs GTown and Butler at home.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Yes. We are fresh off watching this team struggle vs GTown and Butler at home.

They'll win Saturday.

[GoldenEagles03]

They'll win Saturday.

St. John's is actually a good basketball team. DePaul is bad.

Posh and Champagnie are going to be problematic for this team because we've lost a step and aren't playing connected.

Guys are laboring up the court as if the season has worn them out. St. John's doesn't get tired.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

St. John's is actually a good basketball team. DePaul is bad.

Posh and Champagnie are going to be problematic for this team because we've lost a step and aren't playing connected.

Guys are laboring up the court as if the season has worn them out. St. John's doesn't get tired.

I haven't watched a ton of Depaul this year but I did watch them Sunday and today. That team is not bad at all. If they were in the Horizon league I'd bet on them to go the S16. They're clicking right now and hard to beat 90+ points.

Of course they'll have to settle for the NIT.

[Johnny B]

St. John's is actually a good basketball team. DePaul is bad.

Posh and Champagnie are going to be problematic for this team because we've lost a step and aren't playing connected.

Guys are laboring up the court as if the season has worn them out. St. John's doesn't get tired.

their best win is seton hall. they lossed to every ranked team they faced. they aint good. depaul looks solid since liberty returned

[GoldenEagles03]

their best win is seton hall. they lossed to every ranked team they faced. they aint good. depaul looks solid since liberty returned

Right now Xavier and Marquette are the same team.

St. John's just rolled Xavier. It could get ugly on Saturday night!

[MUfan12]

You sure seem to be reveling in this. Still basking in the glow of the UW win?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Right now Xavier and Marquette are the same team.

St. John's just rolled Xavier. It could get ugly on Saturday night!

LOL

[GoldenEagles03]

Why do we think that every Marquette team that has been halfway decent since 2013 has faded late in the year?

Marquette used to get better as the season went on.  Guys look scared in February and March around here when they used to look determined.

This team beat Nova twice and had guys locked in for 3 or 4 weeks and now they can't even dribble the ball up the court against DePaul and Butler. The mystery continues.

[Daniel]

St. John's is actually a good basketball team. DePaul is bad.

Posh and Champagnie are going to be problematic for this team because we've lost a step and aren't playing connected.

Guys are laboring up the court as if the season has worn them out. St. John's doesn't get tired.

Our guys are not as energetic as they were.  They turned it up. a notch with a few minutes left vs DePaul, but overall, I think you are right.  17 turnovers and 12 assists says a lot

[MU82]

Why do we think that every Marquette team that has been halfway decent since 2013 has faded late in the year?

Marquette used to get better as the season went on.  Guys look scared in February and March around here when they used to look determined.

For something to legitimately be a "trend," there has to be commonality of participants.

For the previous several years, that meant Wojo, of course, and a few common players like Markus, Theo, Sam, Sacar, etc.

But there is just about no common thread between the last several teams of down-the-stretch-faders and this one. Lewis and Elliott weren't even starters last season, and Oso wasn't even a bit player. It's almost an all-new team, and there's an all-new coaching staff. So unless simply having "Marquette" on the front of a jersey predisposes a team to play poorly down the stretch, there is "reason" for all of this.

But some folks sure love to talk about this make-believe trend, and some seem to actually be enjoying this team's recent struggles.

[MUfan12]

But there is just about no common thread between the last several teams of down-the-stretch-faders and this one. Lewis and Elliott weren't even starters last season, and Oso wasn't even a bit player. It's almost an all-new team, and there's an all-new coaching staff. So unless simply having "Marquette" on the front of a jersey predisposes a team to play poorly down the stretch, there is "reason" for all of this.

But some folks sure love to talk about this make-believe trend, and some seem to actually be enjoying this team's recent struggles.

Thank you.

If they win Saturday, they're 4-4 in Feb/March after a 7-2 January.

What a collapse that would be.

[PointWarrior]

Yep, different coaches, different players, different seasons - we as marquette fans get to watch 2 completely different crap the bed Februaries.

For something to legitimately be a "trend," there has to be commonality of participants.

For the previous several years, that meant Wojo, of course, and a few common players like Markus, Theo, Sam, Sacar, etc.

But there is just about no common thread between the last several teams of down-the-stretch-faders and this one. Lewis and Elliott weren't even starters last season, and Oso wasn't even a bit player. It's almost an all-new team, and there's an all-new coaching staff. So unless simply having "Marquette" on the front of a jersey predisposes a team to play poorly down the stretch, there is "reason" for all of this.

But some folks sure love to talk about this make-believe trend, and some seem to actually be enjoying this team's recent struggles.

[GoldenEagles03]

For something to legitimately be a "trend," there has to be commonality of participants.

For the previous several years, that meant Wojo, of course, and a few common players like Markus, Theo, Sam, Sacar, etc.

But there is just about no common thread between the last several teams of down-the-stretch-faders and this one. Lewis and Elliott weren't even starters last season, and Oso wasn't even a bit player. It's almost an all-new team, and there's an all-new coaching staff. So unless simply having "Marquette" on the front of a jersey predisposes a team to play poorly down the stretch, there is "reason" for all of this.

But some folks sure love to talk about this make-believe trend, and some seem to actually be enjoying this team's recent struggles.

Unless of course it has also been a trend for Shaka Smart in his past years.  I'm a little less familiar with his past, so that's why I was asking the question.

I thought it was pretty clear that they could compete with anyone midway through the year and that's not really the case anymore.  Just trying to figure out how this keeps happening here whether it's the players fault or not.  I believe it usually lies with the coaching.

[willie warrior]

I think for a 6 we gotta do 2-0 and then beat both Creighton and Prov in the BET. Which I feel really good about doing.

If SHU and their 30ish NET ends up being the 4/5 oppenent. Then maybe 2-0 and just a win over SHU is enough to move to 6.

Have to win out for any chance at a 5. And that will still rely on the committee taking BET results into good consideration.

Beat Creighton? McDermott owns Shaka.